kinda bummed the collab only went for an hour, i feel like it was just getting started when they called it
i don't want them to do like 12-hour marathons or anything, but hopefully they can at least push it to a couple hours in the future
Gura said on her Twitter that she'll be doing longer streams next week, so maybe one or more of them isn't feeling 100%. Hopefully none of them wipeout from how extreme this must be feeling right now.
oh yeah for sure, i'm not mad or anything. i can't even imagine the logistical nightmare they're going through trying to get this all working (i feel like two of them at most are in the US)
that's a purely selfish and reality-disconnected desire on my part
fucking love to see talent get thrown under the bus because because corps are terrified of China
cover is in the unfortunate spot of having to protect both coco and haachama and their chinese branch
this is some fucking bullshit, though, for something as ridiculous as a screenshot of a analytics page
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Oh no another place in the world was named! The Chinese government is such a collective of pissbaby adults who wee wee themselves over the dumbest shit. I really wish corporations would tell China to fuck right off with this sort of stuff. But corporations are so afraid of China bootlegging businesses so they'd rather cave to the ridiculous demands, even though the bootlegging continues anyway.
Apparently the Chinese hard-liners in the comments are calling for Cover to either fire Coco or get out of China completely. It's absolutely psychotic.
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figured it was only a matter of time before something bad happened but I was not expecting a minor international incident.
as an american this is absolutely me throwing a stone in a glass house, and I super don't want to add to the ever-growing waves of sinophobia out there, but an international incident with china is basically inevitable when you have any sort of online presence these days
Registering on Bilibili means going though China's real name authentication and part of that process is sending a photo of you holding a picture ID so if China wants to they can dox all of Hololive and then there is their CN streamers who can be thrown in jail for made up reasons or have their families taken hostage. The whole situation sucks and fuck China for causing it in the first place but suspending them and hoping it blows over is probably the safe move.
Registering on Bilibili means going though China's real name authentication and part of that process is sending a photo of you holding a picture ID so if China wants to they can dox all of Hololive and then there is their CN streamers who can be thrown in jail for made up reasons or have their families taken hostage. The whole situation sucks and fuck China for causing it in the first place but suspending them and hoping it blows over is probably the safe move.
Good thing bowing to pressure and not protecting their talent worked so well the last time they tried it, huh? I'm not mad at you, I'm furious at Cover. Imagine throwing away all the money they put into building the Aloe brand and learning NOTHING. This response is terrible because it basically admits fault. Never do that, especially when there is NO fault. Once you admit fault, the "correct" punishment is on the table. And the kind of extremists we're talking about here, "detonate your entire company and deliver us the heads of the offending people" sounds about right.
Now when Coco comes back, the scum will probably want a spoken apology. Coco, to me, seems like a pretty proud person, who might just retire out of spite if this gets pushed too far.
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All we can hope for is Cover pulling out of China, both via Hololive China and the Bilibili accounts. Fuck that shit, it's so not worth it.
I reckon that part of is that as a country's footprint on the internet gets bigger, the nationalists of that country have a bigger footprint. We're used to shit like gamergate and the alt-right from America, but nationalists from other countries weaponizing their ability to report and harass in large numbers is still, in the picture of the internet, a relatively recent experience
Ame had technical problems that switched her stream plans from more Limbo to unranked Apex. Then she quickly decided that wasn't working and just switched to chat until Kiara was ready to start.
Then Kiara had technical problems and for some reason, Kiara streamed the blank standby screen without her avatar while Ame tried to give her on the fly tech support. Cover is really just throwing their talent into the ocean and being like "stream to 200,000 people go!"
Ame had technical problems that switched her stream plans from more Limbo to unranked Apex. Then she quickly decided that wasn't working and just switched to chat until Kiara was ready to start.
Then Kiara had technical problems and for some reason, Kiara streamed the blank standby screen without her avatar while Ame tried to give her on the fly tech support. Cover is really just throwing their talent into the ocean and being like "stream to 200,000 people go!"
They might not have expected them to blow up this much?
But yeah... It has been rough and the poor women need more corp support.
The sub group "Hololive Moments" put out an anti-Coco, pro CCP public post and privated their previous videos. So uh... time to unsub that group if you happened to follow them.
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The sub group "Hololive Moments" put out an anti-Coco, pro CCP public post and privated their previous videos. So uh... time to unsub that group if you happened to follow them.
Holy shit. It's a VERY long post but I'll quote just the start of it:
Dear viewers, we will stop updating and private all our videos.
We are not pleased with Cover’s announcement regarding the punishment for Coco and Haato on Monday. The punishment is unfair which is too heavy for Haato and too light for Coco. Cover didn’t understand the influence Coco created and showed no professionalism in solving related problems.
We are very upset and confused by Coco’s reaction to her violation of the streaming agreement. Her violation created several bad effects:
1. Hololive’s proxy-streams are forced to stop.
2. Many Hololive talents’ income got impacted significantly.
3. It jeopardized Hololive’s business relationship with Bilibili, which caused a huge financial loss for both Bilibili and Cover. This may influence all future business collabs.
4. Thousands of content creators were disappointed and chose to leave the community.
None of that shit (and the long, long pro-Chinese-government stuff that follows) makes any sense nor has happened. It even claims later on that the Bilibili users have been "discriminated" against. What a psychotic rant.
I scrolled to the comments and it's full of people disagreeing with, unsubscribing from, and trashing Hololive Moments, thankfully. I had no idea the channel was run by pro-fascists.
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On the bright side, reddit is filling with memes about this and uplifting other subtitle groups.
Also I did a refresh and their subscriber count is indeed dropping, so good.
Despite technical difficulties Kiara hit 250k subs right before she started her Minecraft stream. Before the suspension Haachama was going to push for 600k subs before the month ends and is at 598k so fans are spreading the word and push her over.
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Gura said on her Twitter that she'll be doing longer streams next week, so maybe one or more of them isn't feeling 100%. Hopefully none of them wipeout from how extreme this must be feeling right now.
that's a purely selfish and reality-disconnected desire on my part
(also, we learned that even though Ina is pretty pure, she's also extremely vicious)
Ina is far from pure
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coco and hachama suspended 3 weeks
fucking love to see talent get thrown under the bus because because corps are terrified of China
this is some fucking bullshit, though, for something as ridiculous as a screenshot of a analytics page
This will be here until I receive an apology or Weedlordvegeta get any consequences for being a bully
Good thing bowing to pressure and not protecting their talent worked so well the last time they tried it, huh? I'm not mad at you, I'm furious at Cover. Imagine throwing away all the money they put into building the Aloe brand and learning NOTHING. This response is terrible because it basically admits fault. Never do that, especially when there is NO fault. Once you admit fault, the "correct" punishment is on the table. And the kind of extremists we're talking about here, "detonate your entire company and deliver us the heads of the offending people" sounds about right.
Now when Coco comes back, the scum will probably want a spoken apology. Coco, to me, seems like a pretty proud person, who might just retire out of spite if this gets pushed too far.
Did she say anything more than just mentioning taiwan is a place that exists?
It was weird seeing like 1k downvotes within the first few minutes of her reddit meme review.
https://youtu.be/18ZcbX9rjpg
Relevant bit starts at around the 4 minute mark.
gosh darn Google Translate auto captions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rddmVGgem2Q
Then Kiara had technical problems and for some reason, Kiara streamed the blank standby screen without her avatar while Ame tried to give her on the fly tech support. Cover is really just throwing their talent into the ocean and being like "stream to 200,000 people go!"
They might not have expected them to blow up this much?
But yeah... It has been rough and the poor women need more corp support.
It really is like this
I scrolled to the comments and it's full of people disagreeing with, unsubscribing from, and trashing Hololive Moments, thankfully. I had no idea the channel was run by pro-fascists.
Also I did a refresh and their subscriber count is indeed dropping, so good.
Edit - Lemme see if this works:
unlike korone, pekora is NOT a tokyoU graduate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ze_jQmZQo
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