If the insurance companies ask, you didn't hit the deer, the deer hit you.
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About fifteen years ago I had a girlfriend who lived in South Dakota, straight up I-29 from me (I lived in Kansas City) and driving through Iowa was a fucking nightmare. A, because Iowa has a low freeway speed limit (65, or 60 in a couple stretches) and Iowa cops are incredible assholes who will ride your rear bumper for miles waiting for you to fuck up, and because of all the goddamned deer. Long stretches of I-29 highway have thick stands of trees running along both sides of the road so if one ran out in front of you from the woods you had basically no warning. I was really fortunate that I never hit anything, but the highway was an abbatoir, especially during their active season - just long red streaks running down both sides of the highway, or random deer bits (a head here, a leg there) littering the road and crunching under your wheels. It was a horror show.
tl;dr, Cyberpunk has been in 16 hour/day crunch since June 2019.
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FishmanPut your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain.Registered Userregular
While covering the crunch and mismanagement of CDPR re:Cyberpunk is valuable, it should be noted that Jason Schreier's fragile male ego resulted in him creating an angry twitter mob that latched onto the (female) games reporters at GameInformer and do the death threat and online harrassment thing directly as a result of his tweet that Reddit post is referencing.
He's an important voice, and this story is important, but the very first post in that thread is basically weaponised social media designed to incite 'Fake Gamer News' by the worst GG fuckbois.
tl;dr, Cyberpunk has been in 16 hour/day crunch since June 2019.
As an IT Project Manager, I would be put on a PiP (performance improvement plan) then most likely fired if I ran a project that was in crunch for over a year.
While covering the crunch and mismanagement of CDPR re:Cyberpunk is valuable, it should be noted that Jason Schreier's fragile male ego resulted in him creating an angry twitter mob that latched onto the (female) games reporters at GameInformer and do the death threat and online harrassment thing directly as a result of his tweet that Reddit post is referencing.
He's an important voice, and this story is important, but the very first post in that thread is basically weaponised social media designed to incite 'Fake Gamer News' by the worst GG fuckbois.
Sorry, can you offer a bit more direct context for that? I'm not doubting you, but I cannot find what you're talking about and there's only so many spoons I want to invest researching others' claims.
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I still like how Rasputin was accidently listed as being a member of two different Vampire clans, so White Wolf just ran with it and had half a dozen different factions claiming he was a member. Before the world ended, he was listed as a member of
-At least four different Vampire clans (Malkavian, Followers of Set, Ventrue, Nosferatu)
-The Werewolf tribe Shadow Lords
-The Mage tradition Cult of Ecstasy
-The Wraith guild of Puppeteers
The Puppeteers claim that, in his time, Rasputin had possessed many, many mortals, dozens of vampires, four ghouls and three mages, explaining the massive confusion over what, if any, supernatural clique Rasputin belonged to.
I actually own the Setite and Malkavian books, the Rasputin segments are great. I'll have to dig them up later.
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FishmanPut your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain.Registered Userregular
While covering the crunch and mismanagement of CDPR re:Cyberpunk is valuable, it should be noted that Jason Schreier's fragile male ego resulted in him creating an angry twitter mob that latched onto the (female) games reporters at GameInformer and do the death threat and online harrassment thing directly as a result of his tweet that Reddit post is referencing.
He's an important voice, and this story is important, but the very first post in that thread is basically weaponised social media designed to incite 'Fake Gamer News' by the worst GG fuckbois.
Sorry, can you offer a bit more direct context for that? I'm not doubting you, but I cannot find what you're talking about and there's only so many spoons I want to invest researching others' claims.
Okay, so in that source thread, Schreier's very first sentence is a bit of a strawman setting up himself as a victim (I'm not linking because it doesn't deserve the metrics)
A Game Informer podcast recently suggested that my reporting on Cyberpunk 2077's crunch is incorrect.
A few points:
This didn't happen. GameInformer's podcast wasn't directly about Schreier's coverage but the wider story as multiple outlets took it up and added their own sources and perspectives. Against that GI attempted to put some of that into the Polish context and the cultural norms and some other views of dev voices. It never called out Scheier (or anyone else's) reporting as incorrect, just add context and what their dev sources thought about the coverage. It was a discussion about the coverage in general and what it lacked. By putting himself in the center of it and making it an attack on his integrity and professionalism, well...
It's worth looking in and around the replies there, and some of the rest of her feed also, but basically Scheier was at best careless and at worst malicious in spreading around some good old-fashioned hating on womens-in-my-games-journalisms and here he's kinda doubling down on the "I was right and you were wrong" actions that caused all that without really ever having acknowledged in any way his role in any of it.
Does Jason ever directly reference Liana at any point or even really criticize GameInformer besides saying their podcast suggested his reporting is incorrect? Because... I mean, the podcast did that, Jason broke the story and they suggested the story overall is incorrect. I guess he could avoid mentioning the outlet at all, though.
It seems like Jason might take criticism of the story personally but without any more context I'm struggling to see this as particularly egregious or the kind of tweet you can reasonably expect to send fifty death threats.
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Does Jason ever directly reference Liana at any point or even really criticize GameInformer besides saying their podcast suggested his reporting is incorrect? Because... I mean, the podcast did that, Jason broke the story and they suggested the story overall is incorrect. I guess he could avoid mentioning the outlet at all, though.
It seems like Jason might take criticism of the story personally but without any more context I'm struggling to see this as particularly egregious or the kind of tweet you can reasonably expect to send fifty death threats.
Well shit, do we take the abuse victim's word on the subject, or do we take your impressions of what might have happened?
Does Jason ever directly reference Liana at any point or even really criticize GameInformer besides saying their podcast suggested his reporting is incorrect? Because... I mean, the podcast did that, Jason broke the story and they suggested the story overall is incorrect. I guess he could avoid mentioning the outlet at all, though.
It seems like Jason might take criticism of the story personally but without any more context I'm struggling to see this as particularly egregious or the kind of tweet you can reasonably expect to send fifty death threats.
Well shit, do we take the abuse victim's word on the subject, or do we take your impressions of what might have happened?
I am not saying it didn’t happen. I believe she received threats. I am saying that I’m struggling to see how that’s something Jason could have expected or intended by tweeting, accurately, that another outlet implied his story was incorrect.
People can be shitty, but is the implication here that Jason should never contradict another outlet because people might harass people who work there? That seems unworkable. That is why I asked if he did any more specific callouts, because it’s definitely be unreasonable to call her out by name or link the podcast segment or something.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
honestly I still don't think I understand what happened
people are sending threats to the GI author for... contextualizing the CDPR work conditions? for possibly contradicting Schrier?
I think the important questions here are a) does this fallout happen repeatedly and b) does Jason do anything to counter it.
Even if he doesn't directly say anything, if his words have repeatedly caused shit to happen it's something he should be mindful of, regardless of intent. He has a large platform and, fair or not, he's responsible for it.
I mean, the GI story is super gross, they basically take the position that "actually, the devs demanded crunch rather than be delayed." I don't see how Jason is wrong for calling bullshit on that.
During the latest GameInformer Show, it has been revealed that CD Projekt Red did discuss a few possible options, including delaying Cyberpunk 2077 again. The vast majority of developers, however, did support the extra workday for six weeks, which isn't even seen as crunch due to the different views on the matter in Poland. The whole crunch story seems to have been blown out of proportion, so much that one member of the development team was almost scared to celebrate the game going gold, despite being proud of the work done.
At best, it seems like they're just very gullible to a company's trotted out line, at worst they're complicit in ironing out a super toxic corporate environment.
I also don't see how that's a case of a fragile male ego, when your reporting is classified by a major publication as "blowing things out of proportion" on an important issue like this.
Like, he's supposed to...what? If anything, the criticism here is for GI's show. They have a huge platform, and their classification of this as not a big deal was picked up and echoed by other places.
End eveything you say about anything with "please do not harass anyone because of what I just wrote"?
because if so, then, well
please do not harass anyone because of what I just wrote
Looking at all the YouTubers and politician that refuse to actually outright state "I don't support this shit, you're shit if you're doing this" it does appear to be a very difficult step to take.
I just listened to the podcast segment, and it's bad. One of the guys says "this version of crunch is not like other crunch, it's not like they've been doing it for a year, two years."
The entire segment is basically all of them saying "not that i'm advocating for crunch, I'll never advocate for crunch, but sometimes you need crunch" And taking a position where they outright state they don't really know, but CD Projekt Red is totally trying, you guys.
Jason called out in general, anyone who said his original story was full of shit and some terrible GG people decided to use it as an opening to harass women. Because gamers are awful and when I'm God-Emperor of humanity, gamers will be banned.
on a completely unrelated note I need help from techy types again
assuming I’m about to come into a machine with a 3080 and a Ryzen 7, but I don’t have a monitor yet, should I go for 1440P 144HZ, 4K60, or 4K 144HZ? can I even run anything at 4K and a frame rate that high? are there good high frequency 4K monitors that don’t cost $Jupiter?
on a completely unrelated note I need help from techy types again
assuming I’m about to come into a machine with a 3080 and a Ryzen 7, but I don’t have a monitor yet, should I go for 1440P 144HZ, 4K60, or 4K 144HZ? can I even run anything at 4K and a frame rate that high? are there good high frequency 4K monitors that don’t cost $Jupiter?
i am not an authority but i have heard that 1440 with high refresh is the general standard high end at this point.
Because of how close you sit to a monitor, unless you plan on getting an enormous (+32") screen, you're going start hitting some serious diminishing returns at 4k. That graphics card would probably be able to actually drive games at 4k, but I doubt you'd ever be hitting the 144 fps range, unless you lowered the details or used nVidia's upscaling tech, which in itself kind of defeats the point.
Personally I picked up a 1440p/144Hz screen a year ago and it's a lovely thing.
Because of how close you sit to a monitor, unless you plan on getting an enormous (+32") screen, you're going start hitting some serious diminishing returns at 4k. That graphics card would probably be able to actually drive games at 4k, but I doubt you'd ever be hitting the 144 fps range, unless you lowered the details or used nVidia's upscaling tech, which in itself kind of defeats the point.
Personally I picked up a 1440p/144Hz screen a year ago and it's a lovely thing.
I was going for a 27 inch so that definitely answers that! thanks!
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honestly I still don't think I understand what happened
people are sending threats to the GI author for... contextualizing the CDPR work conditions? for possibly contradicting Schrier?
WITCHER 3 GOOD
GAME JOURNALISM BAD
but the GI journalists are ostensibly the ones defending CDPR... like is this a group of rabid Jason Schrier fans that are sending the threats?
yes, that is what happened. He highlighted that they had a segment saying that the crunch situation with CD Projekt Red wasn't actually that bad (which they did), and that it was only this six weeks. And he repeated his sources with some additional stuff to show that it had been going on for years and is a major issue. And then a bunch of idiots did idiot things.
honestly I still don't think I understand what happened
people are sending threats to the GI author for... contextualizing the CDPR work conditions? for possibly contradicting Schrier?
WITCHER 3 GOOD
GAME JOURNALISM BAD
but the GI journalists are ostensibly the ones defending CDPR... like is this a group of rabid Jason Schrier fans that are sending the threats?
yes, that is what happened. He highlighted that they had a segment saying that the crunch situation with CD Projekt Red wasn't actually that bad (which they did), and that it was only this six weeks. And he repeated his sources with some additional stuff to show that it had been going on for years and is a major issue. And then a bunch of idiots did idiot things.
I've been thinking monitors are in a transitional phase for like 5y now.
There's all this cool tech but most of it is quite expensive and it still isn't quite sure where we are going to end up at what pace.
Right now we're dealing with
3 main resolutions (1080p, 1440p, 4k)
4 main panel techniques (TN, VA, IPS, Oled)
Wide range of frequency (from 60hz to 240hz and beyond)
A new HDMI standard just about to be implemented (2.1 allows for 4k 120hz, 2.0 can only do 4k 60hz)
Curved and Ultrawide oddballs
A lot of processing done in the monitor leading to seemingly near identical specs having big differences in outcome
A really shaky PC side implementation of HDR
If you want all of the top end whistles, you are spending car money. So you have to research your usecase.
Because of how close you sit to a monitor, unless you plan on getting an enormous (+32") screen, you're going start hitting some serious diminishing returns at 4k. That graphics card would probably be able to actually drive games at 4k, but I doubt you'd ever be hitting the 144 fps range, unless you lowered the details or used nVidia's upscaling tech, which in itself kind of defeats the point.
Personally I picked up a 1440p/144Hz screen a year ago and it's a lovely thing.
I was going for a 27 inch so that definitely answers that! thanks!
Literally just bought the Samsung G7 27", like, a couple weeks ago and it's amazing.
I've been dying to try HDR, however the iffy Windows implementation of it makes me hesitate to spend extra for it. Just thanks to how HDR works it is non-trivial to display 2d interfaces "correctly" (since it's not a lit situation, they're abstractions) and Windows itself isn't great about it.
On TVs, go for it. On monitors... depends on how much extra effort you're willing to invest into getting it to work, I guess.
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tl;dr, Cyberpunk has been in 16 hour/day crunch since June 2019.
He's an important voice, and this story is important, but the very first post in that thread is basically weaponised social media designed to incite 'Fake Gamer News' by the worst GG fuckbois.
As an IT Project Manager, I would be put on a PiP (performance improvement plan) then most likely fired if I ran a project that was in crunch for over a year.
A YEAR.
I bet these wankers get paid more than me too.
Age of empires getting better remasters than Warcraft 3
Also katana zero is on gamepass, pretty sure pc too
I actually own the Setite and Malkavian books, the Rasputin segments are great. I'll have to dig them up later.
Okay, so in that source thread, Schreier's very first sentence is a bit of a strawman setting up himself as a victim (I'm not linking because it doesn't deserve the metrics)
A few points:
This didn't happen. GameInformer's podcast wasn't directly about Schreier's coverage but the wider story as multiple outlets took it up and added their own sources and perspectives. Against that GI attempted to put some of that into the Polish context and the cultural norms and some other views of dev voices. It never called out Scheier (or anyone else's) reporting as incorrect, just add context and what their dev sources thought about the coverage. It was a discussion about the coverage in general and what it lacked. By putting himself in the center of it and making it an attack on his integrity and professionalism, well...
It's worth looking in and around the replies there, and some of the rest of her feed also, but basically Scheier was at best careless and at worst malicious in spreading around some good old-fashioned hating on womens-in-my-games-journalisms and here he's kinda doubling down on the "I was right and you were wrong" actions that caused all that without really ever having acknowledged in any way his role in any of it.
Never apologize to the deer. That's an admission of guilt.
It seems like Jason might take criticism of the story personally but without any more context I'm struggling to see this as particularly egregious or the kind of tweet you can reasonably expect to send fifty death threats.
Well shit, do we take the abuse victim's word on the subject, or do we take your impressions of what might have happened?
I am not saying it didn’t happen. I believe she received threats. I am saying that I’m struggling to see how that’s something Jason could have expected or intended by tweeting, accurately, that another outlet implied his story was incorrect.
People can be shitty, but is the implication here that Jason should never contradict another outlet because people might harass people who work there? That seems unworkable. That is why I asked if he did any more specific callouts, because it’s definitely be unreasonable to call her out by name or link the podcast segment or something.
people are sending threats to the GI author for... contextualizing the CDPR work conditions? for possibly contradicting Schrier?
Even if he doesn't directly say anything, if his words have repeatedly caused shit to happen it's something he should be mindful of, regardless of intent. He has a large platform and, fair or not, he's responsible for it.
What is the correct course of action here?
End eveything you say about anything with "please do not harass anyone because of what I just wrote"?
because if so, then, well
please do not harass anyone because of what I just wrote
At best, it seems like they're just very gullible to a company's trotted out line, at worst they're complicit in ironing out a super toxic corporate environment.
I also don't see how that's a case of a fragile male ego, when your reporting is classified by a major publication as "blowing things out of proportion" on an important issue like this.
Like, he's supposed to...what? If anything, the criticism here is for GI's show. They have a huge platform, and their classification of this as not a big deal was picked up and echoed by other places.
The entire segment is basically all of them saying "not that i'm advocating for crunch, I'll never advocate for crunch, but sometimes you need crunch" And taking a position where they outright state they don't really know, but CD Projekt Red is totally trying, you guys.
They go to bat for CD PR really hard.
Jason called out in general, anyone who said his original story was full of shit and some terrible GG people decided to use it as an opening to harass women. Because gamers are awful and when I'm God-Emperor of humanity, gamers will be banned.
assuming I’m about to come into a machine with a 3080 and a Ryzen 7, but I don’t have a monitor yet, should I go for 1440P 144HZ, 4K60, or 4K 144HZ? can I even run anything at 4K and a frame rate that high? are there good high frequency 4K monitors that don’t cost $Jupiter?
Edit: I guess they are, but damn expensive.
i am not an authority but i have heard that 1440 with high refresh is the general standard high end at this point.
Personally I picked up a 1440p/144Hz screen a year ago and it's a lovely thing.
WITCHER 3 GOOD
GAME JOURNALISM BAD
I was going for a 27 inch so that definitely answers that! thanks!
LOL TOO MANY GAMES
but the GI journalists are ostensibly the ones defending CDPR... like is this a group of rabid Jason Schrier fans that are sending the threats?
and it is pretty rad
honestly though I might go with OLED/HDR over the extra hz
yes, that is what happened. He highlighted that they had a segment saying that the crunch situation with CD Projekt Red wasn't actually that bad (which they did), and that it was only this six weeks. And he repeated his sources with some additional stuff to show that it had been going on for years and is a major issue. And then a bunch of idiots did idiot things.
An evergreen comment.
There's all this cool tech but most of it is quite expensive and it still isn't quite sure where we are going to end up at what pace.
Right now we're dealing with
3 main resolutions (1080p, 1440p, 4k)
4 main panel techniques (TN, VA, IPS, Oled)
Wide range of frequency (from 60hz to 240hz and beyond)
A new HDMI standard just about to be implemented (2.1 allows for 4k 120hz, 2.0 can only do 4k 60hz)
Curved and Ultrawide oddballs
A lot of processing done in the monitor leading to seemingly near identical specs having big differences in outcome
A really shaky PC side implementation of HDR
If you want all of the top end whistles, you are spending car money. So you have to research your usecase.
Literally just bought the Samsung G7 27", like, a couple weeks ago and it's amazing.
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On TVs, go for it. On monitors... depends on how much extra effort you're willing to invest into getting it to work, I guess.
man that sounds like some hot bullshit