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[2020 Election] Math is Dead
Elki
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This here is your official thread for discussing the great basket of wonder and joy that is the upcoming 2020 election.
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HEY! LISTEN! Some bright spark had the excellent notion to link the resources thread from SE++ for people who are having a hard time, so:
If you're having a tough time of it in these testing times, here are some resources that can help.
This here is your official thread for discussing the great basket of wonder and joy that is the upcoming 2020 election.
What You Can Talk About:
- Any national or local 2020 US election.
- The impact of the conventions that just happened.
- The policy platforms of candidates AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE ELECTIONS. "Biden plans to roll out a public option" is okay. "A public option is awesome because of X,Y, and Z" is not.
- Polls related to the election.
- Voting outreach efforts
- Other things that directly pertain to the 2020 election and have not been explicitly banned.
What You Can't Talk About:
- The 2020 primaries that have already occurred. Upcoming 2020 primaries, if there are any left, are okay.
- Bernie Sanders
- 20-motherfucking-16
- Hillary Fucking Clinton
- Policy in general. This is not the place to discuss health care or taxes or policing in general. We have threads for all those things! If not, feel free to make one!
- Who you plan to personally vote for. Nothing good has ever come from a conversation in these threads about why you're definitely voting for Biden / voting third party / not voting. Just rest assured that your personal reasons for voting are the best in the whole world and everyone agrees with you and thinks you're smart and good looking. Masterfully done, you.
If you have previously been banned from this thread, you are still banned from this thread, sorry. Rest assured you can participate in discussions when 2024 rolls around, assuming elections are still a thing that exists in that far away time.
HEY! LISTEN! Some bright spark had the excellent notion to link the resources thread from SE++ for people who are having a hard time, so:
If you're having a tough time of it in these testing times, here are some resources that can help.
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Currently, our job is to just keep counting. That is what we focus on right now.
That's rough, buddy
I'm cllinging to the fact that we don't need PA at this point, and GA is still in play.
But without the senate it's just a setup for 2010 all over again: "he did nothing, and whatever he did I don't like, and after two years of Trump the stock market was up whereas now the covid recession STILL isn't fixed. Disappointed in Ds, let's vote in an R house and senate, that'll fix things...". So please, please, please get to 50 and get Joe f Manchin to remember what color he really bleeds.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
I have no idea what this must be like for all of you who have to live in the US.
This. The die has been tossed. It sucks to feel and be helpless, and it's hard to trust the system but it's all we can do right now.
Take breaks. Get some sleep. Eat. The next few days are going to be long.
Lucky! I only managed two hours. Being a mixture of both calm and a ball of anxiety isn't conducive to sleep.
Deliberately shrinking that big tent and setting aside 35%+ of the country as evil racists is not the winning strategy we imagined.
CBS estimates 4.2 million outstanding mail-in ballots still to be counted between PA/WI/MI
Which is to say, enough to keep us in suspense.
CBS is news network.
Almost like he’s a deeply irresponsible person! And so are his supporters and enablers in the party!
Biden's 238 beats his 213
Nate Cohn writes for the Upshot with the NY Times about politics.
Biden is still the favorite in all of these states. It's just a matter of getting the votes counted.
I second this emotion, but with more swearing
there is no alternative other than setting them aside
for 2016, people could be somewhat forgiven for voting for Trump out of ignorance, out of bullishness, out of differing priorities. out of not knowing what a Trump presidency would really like
They've had four years of it. They know what it looks like. At this point anyone who says "four more years of this please" is unreachable and at this point you just hope not wearing a mask thins them out for the next Senate elections.
I mean, they ARE evil racists. I don't get your point. We weren't appealing enough to fascists?
https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/wisconsin
It's weird to me that anybody would draw this conclusion when Biden was almost exclusively campaigning towards the center and soft right. I don't want to be in a tent with Nazis and Nazi sympathizers. That tent's too big!
It hurts if you have empathy for your fellow humans, because you know what will happen under four more years and no limiter on these guys- more pain, more hate, more fear, and I’ve had my fill thankssomuch. It’s just... I don’t know. They literally just don’t give a fuck about other people,and it’s a foreign concept to people like us.
And the SC thing... I think it’s more that we’ve seen norms get pitched into the trash like dirty cat litter all over, and well... you have to ask if the SC would do the same.
If we lose NV, do we still have a path, or is it a gotta-win?
I can has cheezburger, yes?
It'll end up being outside the recount margin once all the counting is done.
I don't know about the practical on-the-ground-implications but it's 6 votes. So like, Wisconsin & Michigan with either of PA, NC, GA would make up for it.
Probably any two three remaining of those five would make up for it. Math-wise.
That’s good news, as apparently that doesn’t include the Kenosha absentee ballots, which should give Biden another 10,000 votes or so to add to his 20,000 lead.
I mean, we're about to sweep the rust belt and pick off Arizona and Georgia. That's a little different.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
I would contend that a different approach would be more effective in actually gaining power and winning elections.
This is not the same as me agreeing with idiot racists.
We sure feel good calling ignorant racists, ignorant racists but it sure feels bad to lose the country to them twice in a row.
So yeah, we didn't do enough to bring people into the big tent and here we are.
The damming evidence is Trump increasing his pop vote. You think that is because he's so appealing in message and personality?
People get shouted down here for saying we need to actively try to move the idiot "all lives matter" racists or that you could have any dialog with family members in this category (I personally was told to cut ties with my dad) but all that does is LITERALLY solidify those people in opposition.
I want to stress that I think this SUCKS and that I am on the side of virtually everyone here. All I am saying as an outsider is that the clear "good vs bad" lines that are drawn today are counterproductive.
Have you managed to convince your dad?
Don't stop believing.
Georgia could also break blue.
You're calling them Nazi's in this very post!
They gonna vote for the public option on healthcare after that? Tough call.