Saying that "white" Latinos go for Trump is some gross ass shit. Please educate yourself.
Isn't white hispanic a thing? Or is that something different? I don't know, I'm just a cat
It is yes. But white hispanics are not latinx. They’re European
Is this actually a thing? I, and most of the white Hispanics I know identify as latinx. This is mostly PRicans, I always check the "white" box, but also the "latino" box if able.
Yes. Though obviously nothing stops you from checking the box.
The most obvious example is Cuban expats, IE people that fled Castro’s revolution. IE the people who ruled Cuba
Interesting I don't know many Cubans, but a huge amount of white PRicans, never heard anyone call themselves European.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
is arguing over hispanic ethnicity pleasing to Election Dragon?
Not a peach cobbler, but I do have these primed and ready to light up if PA goes tonight:
Like the man said, don't light up til the fat lady sings.
PA going is the fat lady. If the vote in PA is done, and Biden wins, the only thing that can change things would be a WI recount finding ~300 times more votes to change than they have before.
I have a feeling that PA is going to be a battle even after the count is finished. Trump camp was planning on legal fuckery there from the start.
Yeah but with planning they’re getting obliterated by the judge.
per NBC as many as 8,900 overseas ballots possible in GA, but they have to arrive by tomorrow so we won't know the total for sure until then
That seems... potentially really important
Not really. If Biden has Pennsylvania in the bag like everyone who would know keeps saying then he can lose Georgia and Arizona and still win with 279 EC votes. Winning Georgia and Arizona is technically just running up the score and protecting against ratfucking with baseless court challenges.
If Biden gets PA, he can lose in every other uncalled state and still win with 273.
Getting Arizona and Georgia, while protecting against ratfuckery, also adds more legitimacy to the
Presidency. But also higher scores allows forplay are the senate. As to protect our senator there and Georgia to force two runoffs.
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Not a peach cobbler, but I do have these primed and ready to light up if PA goes tonight:
Like the man said, don't light up til the fat lady sings.
PA going is the fat lady. If the vote in PA is done, and Biden wins, the only thing that can change things would be a WI recount finding ~300 times more votes to change than they have before.
I have a feeling that PA is going to be a battle even after the count is finished. Trump camp was planning on legal fuckery there from the start.
Yeah but with planning they’re getting obliterated by the judge.
also clearly their plan ended at "challenge it in court"
is arguing over hispanic ethnicity pleasing to Election Dragon?
Well clearly talking about every batch of 16 votes shaving 6 more off the lead in Georgia has not pleased Election Dragon so maybe if we talk about other shit He will let us hear His glorious Call.
Saying that "white" Latinos go for Trump is some gross ass shit. Please educate yourself.
Isn't white hispanic a thing? Or is that something different? I don't know, I'm just a cat
It is yes. But white hispanics are not latinx. They’re European
Is this actually a thing? I, and most of the white Hispanics I know identify as latinx. This is mostly PRicans, I always check the "white" box, but also the "latino" box if able.
Yes. Though obviously nothing stops you from checking the box.
The most obvious example is Cuban expats, IE people that fled Castro’s revolution. IE the people who ruled Cuba
Interesting I don't know many Cubans, but a huge amount of white PRicans, never heard anyone call themselves European.
Half Cuban here, Dad was born in Cuba and left as a child due to Castro. He completely passes as white as does the vast majority of people on that side of my family. It’s only when he starts speaking spanish that people get suspicious.
He definitely does not identify as European, Hispanic or Latino. Cuban and American would be his two choices if asked.
Saying that "white" Latinos go for Trump is some gross ass shit. Please educate yourself.
Isn't white hispanic a thing? Or is that something different? I don't know, I'm just a cat
It is yes. But white hispanics are not latinx. They’re European
Is this actually a thing? I, and most of the white Hispanics I know identify as latinx. This is mostly PRicans, I always check the "white" box, but also the "latino" box if able.
Yes. Though obviously nothing stops you from checking the box.
The most obvious example is Cuban expats, IE people that fled Castro’s revolution. IE the people who ruled Cuba
Interesting I don't know many Cubans, but a huge amount of white PRicans, never heard anyone call themselves European.
Latinx/hispanic (and Caribbean and Latin American in general) self-identification varies wildly by country and is extremely complex to say the least.
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Trump's trident of incompetence is going to prevent any meaningful coup attempts.
1) His legal theory of the case is so bad and presented so poorly that even very partisan judges are like "get this shit out of my face are you kidding me?"
2) He appointed ACB, losing all leverage when he could have tried to hold it after the election, while always leaving an option to ram her through in the lame duck.
3) He is running behind down ballot candidates, proving they do not need him to be successful.
I mean, sure he could try and send in the army or nationalize the National Guard and barricade himself in the White House but honestly I'd fucking love to see him do that so President Biden can order the Secret Service to drag him out of his house on inauguration day and dump him unceremoniously on his ass in the street.
Edit: He's also losing by too much to credibly steal the vote but who ever heard of a quadent? It's just too many votes to invalidate. It needed to be more razor thin in more states.
Saying that "white" Latinos go for Trump is some gross ass shit. Please educate yourself.
Isn't white hispanic a thing? Or is that something different? I don't know, I'm just a cat
It is yes. But white hispanics are not latinx. They’re European
Is this actually a thing? I, and most of the white Hispanics I know identify as latinx. This is mostly PRicans, I always check the "white" box, but also the "latino" box if able.
Yes. Though obviously nothing stops you from checking the box.
The most obvious example is Cuban expats, IE people that fled Castro’s revolution. IE the people who ruled Cuba
Interesting I don't know many Cubans, but a huge amount of white PRicans, never heard anyone call themselves European.
Half Cuban here, Dad was born in Cuba and left as a child due to Castro. He completely passes as white as does the vast majority of people on that side of my family. It’s only when he starts speaking spanish that people get suspicious.
He definitely does not identify as European, Hispanic or Latino. Cuban and American would be his two choices if asked.
Look we're gonna need your dad to fit himself neatly into one of these little boxes we have here already prechosen.
(Kidding of course I bet your dad is rad)
Not a peach cobbler, but I do have these primed and ready to light up if PA goes tonight:
Monte Cristo is my preferred cigar on the very rare occasion I smoke up. It’s quite smooth.
Monte Cristo? Good name for a count.
Or a sandwich.
I would love to have carnal knowledge of such a construction. Gotta have the some plum or cherry preserves with it. I find the normal Maple syrup dip to be too cloyingly sweet.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
Saying that "white" Latinos go for Trump is some gross ass shit. Please educate yourself.
Isn't white hispanic a thing? Or is that something different? I don't know, I'm just a cat
It is yes. But white hispanics are not latinx. They’re European
Is this actually a thing? I, and most of the white Hispanics I know identify as latinx. This is mostly PRicans, I always check the "white" box, but also the "latino" box if able.
Yes. Though obviously nothing stops you from checking the box.
The most obvious example is Cuban expats, IE people that fled Castro’s revolution. IE the people who ruled Cuba
Interesting I don't know many Cubans, but a huge amount of white PRicans, never heard anyone call themselves European.
Not sure many would call themselves European. Nor is there a requirement that every white hispanic is European.
But it’s a bit like saying that Afrikaner aren’t European. And sure, not every “white African” is Afrikaner. And it could be right to say that Afrikaner arent European in some sense, to ignore the history there would be a mistake.
In general the more “white hispanic” you are the more likely you’re to have a higher proportion of Spanish and the more “non-white Hispanic” the more indigenous you’re likely to have
Edit: the main takeaway is that everyone likes to ignore the effect of colonialism on their part of the world.
CNN says Trump's lead in Georgia is under 2,000 votes, and there are still 16,000 votes remaining. All mail-in ballots I think? Trump is finished, right?
CNN says Trump's lead in Georgia is under 2,000 votes, and there are still 16,000 votes remaining. All mail-in ballots I think? Trump is finished, right?
There's still oversea and provision ballots to count as well, so they won't be able to call it anytime soon, but yeah, it's looking like Biden is going to overtake Trump soon(ish).
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CNN says Trump's lead in Georgia is under 2,000 votes, and there are still 16,000 votes remaining. All mail-in ballots I think? Trump is finished, right?
No, not yet. Never assume.
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Mary Trump laying down some harshness on her uncle with O'Donnell on MSNBC. Going deep on the psychological side of things, and I'm loving it.
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No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
CNN says Trump's lead in Georgia is under 2,000 votes, and there are still 16,000 votes remaining. All mail-in ballots I think? Trump is finished, right?
I mean, how sure do you want to be? This has been 99.9% over since about midnight Tuesday, but if you want to be 100% sure then not quite yet
CNN says Trump's lead in Georgia is under 2,000 votes, and there are still 16,000 votes remaining. All mail-in ballots I think? Trump is finished, right?
Just under 11000 mail in and a batch of military/expat ballots due in tomorrow I think. The mail ballots have been breaking hard for Biden but the other batch could be a wildcard.
CNN says Trump's lead in Georgia is under 2,000 votes, and there are still 16,000 votes remaining. All mail-in ballots I think? Trump is finished, right?
Just under 11000 mail in and a batch of military/expat ballots due in tomorrow I think. The mail ballots have been breaking hard for Biden but the other batch could be a wildcard.
I heard 30,000 provisional ballots as well.
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Is ... is this more sandwich talk? Because you're all making me hungry now.
I'm checking the fridge. I have some honey wheat bread, 3-4oz of roast beef, and stone ground mustard. Sadly only cheese is a shredded Mexican blend, going to up the difficulty on making a grilled cheese with it, but I'm a brave pioneer...let's do it!
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Interesting I don't know many Cubans, but a huge amount of white PRicans, never heard anyone call themselves European.
Yeah but with planning they’re getting obliterated by the judge.
Monte Cristo? Good name for a count.
Presidency. But also higher scores allows forplay are the senate. As to protect our senator there and Georgia to force two runoffs.
also clearly their plan ended at "challenge it in court"
Or a sandwich.
Well clearly talking about every batch of 16 votes shaving 6 more off the lead in Georgia has not pleased Election Dragon so maybe if we talk about other shit He will let us hear His glorious Call.
Half Cuban here, Dad was born in Cuba and left as a child due to Castro. He completely passes as white as does the vast majority of people on that side of my family. It’s only when he starts speaking spanish that people get suspicious.
He definitely does not identify as European, Hispanic or Latino. Cuban and American would be his two choices if asked.
Latinx/hispanic (and Caribbean and Latin American in general) self-identification varies wildly by country and is extremely complex to say the least.
1) His legal theory of the case is so bad and presented so poorly that even very partisan judges are like "get this shit out of my face are you kidding me?"
2) He appointed ACB, losing all leverage when he could have tried to hold it after the election, while always leaving an option to ram her through in the lame duck.
3) He is running behind down ballot candidates, proving they do not need him to be successful.
I mean, sure he could try and send in the army or nationalize the National Guard and barricade himself in the White House but honestly I'd fucking love to see him do that so President Biden can order the Secret Service to drag him out of his house on inauguration day and dump him unceremoniously on his ass in the street.
Edit: He's also losing by too much to credibly steal the vote but who ever heard of a quadent? It's just too many votes to invalidate. It needed to be more razor thin in more states.
A great sandwich. So maybe an earl?
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Look we're gonna need your dad to fit himself neatly into one of these little boxes we have here already prechosen.
(Kidding of course I bet your dad is rad)
I would love to have carnal knowledge of such a construction. Gotta have the some plum or cherry preserves with it. I find the normal Maple syrup dip to be too cloyingly sweet.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Is ... is this more sandwich talk? Because you're all making me hungry now.
Duly noted! Also, according the source texts, it should be punctuated with a !
I've just been copy/pasting it. I've forgotten who originated The Needle Ritual, but I think it was an Election Thread or two back.
Not sure many would call themselves European. Nor is there a requirement that every white hispanic is European.
But it’s a bit like saying that Afrikaner aren’t European. And sure, not every “white African” is Afrikaner. And it could be right to say that Afrikaner arent European in some sense, to ignore the history there would be a mistake.
In general the more “white hispanic” you are the more likely you’re to have a higher proportion of Spanish and the more “non-white Hispanic” the more indigenous you’re likely to have
Edit: the main takeaway is that everyone likes to ignore the effect of colonialism on their part of the world.
There's still oversea and provision ballots to count as well, so they won't be able to call it anytime soon, but yeah, it's looking like Biden is going to overtake Trump soon(ish).
No, not yet. Never assume.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
I mean, how sure do you want to be? This has been 99.9% over since about midnight Tuesday, but if you want to be 100% sure then not quite yet
Just under 11000 mail in and a batch of military/expat ballots due in tomorrow I think. The mail ballots have been breaking hard for Biden but the other batch could be a wildcard.
I heard 30,000 provisional ballots as well.
Recounts rarely change the outcome and they'd be equally as likely to find more votes for Joe.
Voting technology has come a long way since Florida. There is less ambiguity and points to fuck it up.
There’s formality recount and then there’s “so tight that literally every time you count you might get a different winner” recounts.
I’m pretty sure Biden can run it up to the former, but that’s what I’m watching.
I'm not saying it will change the results, just that it will be demanded.
per AZ Secretary of State own NBC
e: most regular early ballots, very small amount are provisional
I'm checking the fridge. I have some honey wheat bread, 3-4oz of roast beef, and stone ground mustard. Sadly only cheese is a shredded Mexican blend, going to up the difficulty on making a grilled cheese with it, but I'm a brave pioneer...let's do it!
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Call the police.
And the news.
oh christ
Well at least they said please.
Annoyed, angry, frustrated, even sad, but not surprised.
Holy fuck what. That's more than slightly terrifying.