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[2020 Election] Math is Dead

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    A writer for local Georgia news:



    Gwinnet County stopped counting ballots to allow Clayton to put Joe Biden over the top out of respect for John Lewis (this was his district). Expect a dump around midnight.

    Midnight eastern, as in 22 minutes from now?

    That is my understanding and what county officials are signaling.

  • VestyVesty Registered User regular
    Nate Silver is the five thirty eight guy who can't make pronouncements about various things at the moment due to obligations and affiliations.

    But he did just tweet this:


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    I have no idea what the fuck this means.

    Explosive Ordinance Disposal

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    tbloxham wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    A writer for local Georgia news:



    Gwinnet County stopped counting ballots to allow Clayton to put Joe Biden over the top out of respect for John Lewis (this was his district). Expect a dump around midnight.

    What John Lewis would have wanted is to kick the madman in the Oval office out as fast as is humanly possible, ideally with as large as possible a posted vote lead so as to avoid any controversy.

    No matter what gets announced tomorrow doesn't make Friday into January 20th.

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    tbloxham wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    A writer for local Georgia news:



    Gwinnet County stopped counting ballots to allow Clayton to put Joe Biden over the top out of respect for John Lewis (this was his district). Expect a dump around midnight.

    What John Lewis would have wanted is to kick the madman in the Oval office out as fast as is humanly possible, ideally with as large as possible a posted vote lead so as to avoid any controversy.

    Whatever happens tonight, or in the next week or month, he's not leaving before January 20th. (Unless he does try to skip town.)

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  • ChanusChanus I've seen things... Registered User regular
    i am never sure if people write ordinance instead of ordnance on purpose or not

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Inkstain82 wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    A writer for local Georgia news:



    Gwinnet County stopped counting ballots to allow Clayton to put Joe Biden over the top out of respect for John Lewis (this was his district). Expect a dump around midnight.

    I can't tell if he's being serious with that tweet.

    Some right wing conspiracy type is going to use it as "proof" the election was "rigged" regardless.
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Taranis wrote: »
    My wife’s friend, here in Abilene TX, just got this in her mailbox

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    I don't even know what this is supposed to accomplish once the election is over. Even if they plan on following through, this only gives her time to prepare in some way. This is what I'm afraid of though. Trump has a lot of clout with the alt-right even if he loses the election. There's too many dumb trump supporters with guns out there, and many of them are my neighbors.

    We have more guns than our neighbors. The Right wants to start a civil war I think they're going to have some surprises about how soft a target some people are. Personally I'm skeptical that they're organized enough for that though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    The "liberals aren't armed" thing always makes me smirk. I go to the range a couple times a month with a group of other very liberal dads. "Unarmed" would be a very poor adjective to use to describe the group.

    There is a huge difference between "gun owner" and "ammosexual".

    The latter group tends to the think the former group is part of their group.

    Which is *not* the case.

    This is common across the entire conservative spectrum, and I'm 99% sure it's intentional. Both as a way of inflating their own numbers and as a deflection

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  • MillMill Registered User regular
    On the senate, it's not completely lost.

    Alaska might surprise us, but I'm a bit leery on that one.
    North Carolina isn't lost, it more likely than Alaska, but I'd agree it's a long shot. That said, the Cunningham might pull off a squeaker.
    I think both races in Georgia are going to run off, probably not enough votes left for Ossoff to not only overtake Perdue, but then break 50%. Though I might be wrong here. I fully expect GA to be crazy in the next two months and it's anyone's guess how things play out. Both sides are going to dump money into the races like no tomorrow because the Senate is at stake and a democratic majority means likely DC and PR get statehood next year, which would be a massive blow to racist ass republican party. Also I think the amendment that gives DC 3 ECs might be something that can be weaponized to murder the EC. AKA we'll repeal it now that DC is a state, but only if the EC gets shot and dumped into a volcano to make it happen.

    Some other things in regards to the runoffs.
    -Trump won't be on the ballot. Hard to say if the Trumpers will be pissed enough to turnout in spite or depressed enough they stay home. To make it even more confusing, the spite might be more directed at McConnell than democrats, if the rat fuckers feel McConnell betrayed Trump.
    -That'll leave us with two months of Trump's rat fuckery in the lame duck and likely McConnell being a limp dick about it because Trump is the GOP at this point. I also see Mitch being enough of a shit, that he starts trying to create problems for Biden, in an attempt to make Biden a one term president.
    -Healthcare, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the ruling on ACA come out in the next two weeks or was that just hearing the case. Anyways, the assholes republicans on SCOTUS might have blown up ACA at that point and that will be the focus of the race and lots of mention on how it was republicans that enabled it. So there will be a question of whether people want to give the GOP two more years to stonewall fixing it or boot the fuckers to make it clear hat wasn't cool and oh boy, could that challenge the agenda calendar quite a bit because it probably gives democrats a ton of capital to expand the court.

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  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i am never sure if people write ordinance instead of ordnance on purpose or not

    I blame maintenance

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    To absolutely no one's surprise:


    CBS News has learned that President Trump does not plan to concede even if Joe Biden declares victory in the coming days

    CBS is a major news outlet.

    This keeps alive my dream of watching him get bodily dragged out of the WH like his co-conspirator buddy Assange got dragged out of the Ecuadorian Embassy.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i am never sure if people write ordinance instead of ordnance on purpose or not

    It's a materiel difference.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Nate Silver is the five thirty eight guy who can't make pronouncements about various things at the moment due to obligations and affiliations.

    But he did just tweet this:


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    man

    I HATE arebus.

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  • VestyVesty Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i am never sure if people write ordinance instead of ordnance on purpose or not

    Like all things I blame the first google result spot check

    Chanus
  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    We're not discussing exactly how well armed people are in this thread.

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  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    It is terrifying to me that if republicans were like 5% less evil they'd never lose an election

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment The purity of angry tambourine. Registered User regular
    Nate Silver is the five thirty eight guy who can't make pronouncements about various things at the moment due to obligations and affiliations.

    But he did just tweet this:


    XeniDAT.png

    man

    I HATE arebus.

    Arquebus?

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  • ChanusChanus I've seen things... Registered User regular
    Vesty wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i am never sure if people write ordinance instead of ordnance on purpose or not

    Like all things I blame the first google result spot check

    explosive ordinance disposal is what Biden should do day one am i right fellas

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    It is terrifying to me that if republicans were like 5% less evil they'd never lose an election

    Nah. They’d lose their base

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Vesty wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i am never sure if people write ordinance instead of ordnance on purpose or not

    Like all things I blame the first google result spot check

    explosive ordinance disposal is what Biden should do day one am i right fellas

    Yuck it up, fuzzball

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  • htmhtm Registered User regular
    Nate Silver is the five thirty eight guy who can't make pronouncements about various things at the moment due to obligations and affiliations.

    But he did just tweet this:


    XeniDAT.png

    man

    I HATE arebus.

    Indeed. Being a product of Public Education, I'm 🪝ed on ☎️❌.

  • y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
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    maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
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  • Atlas in ChainsAtlas in Chains Registered User regular
    How do you get "enough" out of "knee off"? You've got the N committed to the Sea to get "seen", which leaves you with eeoff. I was super excited to see a puzzle and instantly let down by the answer. Do better, Nate.

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  • BigPointyTeethBigPointyTeeth run away! run away! MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Hopefully this is the start of the republican in-fighting https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54835454
    "Trump sons attack Republicans for 'weak' backing"

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    On the senate, it's not completely lost.

    Alaska might surprise us, but I'm a bit leery on that one.
    North Carolina isn't lost, it more likely than Alaska, but I'd agree it's a long shot. That said, the Cunningham might pull off a squeaker.
    I think both races in Georgia are going to run off, probably not enough votes left for Ossoff to not only overtake Perdue, but then break 50%. Though I might be wrong here. I fully expect GA to be crazy in the next two months and it's anyone's guess how things play out. Both sides are going to dump money into the races like no tomorrow because the Senate is at stake and a democratic majority means likely DC and PR get statehood next year, which would be a massive blow to racist ass republican party. Also I think the amendment that gives DC 3 ECs might be something that can be weaponized to murder the EC. AKA we'll repeal it now that DC is a state, but only if the EC gets shot and dumped into a volcano to make it happen.

    Some other things in regards to the runoffs.
    -Trump won't be on the ballot. Hard to say if the Trumpers will be pissed enough to turnout in spite or depressed enough they stay home. To make it even more confusing, the spite might be more directed at McConnell than democrats, if the rat fuckers feel McConnell betrayed Trump.
    -That'll leave us with two months of Trump's rat fuckery in the lame duck and likely McConnell being a limp dick about it because Trump is the GOP at this point. I also see Mitch being enough of a shit, that he starts trying to create problems for Biden, in an attempt to make Biden a one term president.
    -Healthcare, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the ruling on ACA come out in the next two weeks or was that just hearing the case. Anyways, the assholes republicans on SCOTUS might have blown up ACA at that point and that will be the focus of the race and lots of mention on how it was republicans that enabled it. So there will be a question of whether people want to give the GOP two more years to stonewall fixing it or boot the fuckers to make it clear hat wasn't cool and oh boy, could that challenge the agenda calendar quite a bit because it probably gives democrats a ton of capital to expand the court.

    Dang pour one out for poor Georgia

    Election season is finally over and now suddenly it's been extended 2 months for them

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    How do you get "enough" out of "knee off"? You've got the N committed to the Sea to get "seen", which leaves you with eeoff. I was super excited to see a puzzle and instantly let down by the answer. Do better, Nate.

    ...and now I want to get my Trebek on and watch some Classic Concentration.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    hive caribbean knee toggle

    of course!
    hive sea knee off

    I’ve seen enough

    It’s extra dumb because you need a second N sound to make the rebus work.

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    Mill wrote: »
    On the senate, it's not completely lost.

    Alaska might surprise us, but I'm a bit leery on that one.
    North Carolina isn't lost, it more likely than Alaska, but I'd agree it's a long shot. That said, the Cunningham might pull off a squeaker.
    I think both races in Georgia are going to run off, probably not enough votes left for Ossoff to not only overtake Perdue, but then break 50%. Though I might be wrong here. I fully expect GA to be crazy in the next two months and it's anyone's guess how things play out. Both sides are going to dump money into the races like no tomorrow because the Senate is at stake and a democratic majority means likely DC and PR get statehood next year, which would be a massive blow to racist ass republican party. Also I think the amendment that gives DC 3 ECs might be something that can be weaponized to murder the EC. AKA we'll repeal it now that DC is a state, but only if the EC gets shot and dumped into a volcano to make it happen.

    Some other things in regards to the runoffs.
    -Trump won't be on the ballot. Hard to say if the Trumpers will be pissed enough to turnout in spite or depressed enough they stay home. To make it even more confusing, the spite might be more directed at McConnell than democrats, if the rat fuckers feel McConnell betrayed Trump.
    -That'll leave us with two months of Trump's rat fuckery in the lame duck and likely McConnell being a limp dick about it because Trump is the GOP at this point. I also see Mitch being enough of a shit, that he starts trying to create problems for Biden, in an attempt to make Biden a one term president.
    -Healthcare, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the ruling on ACA come out in the next two weeks or was that just hearing the case. Anyways, the assholes republicans on SCOTUS might have blown up ACA at that point and that will be the focus of the race and lots of mention on how it was republicans that enabled it. So there will be a question of whether people want to give the GOP two more years to stonewall fixing it or boot the fuckers to make it clear hat wasn't cool and oh boy, could that challenge the agenda calendar quite a bit because it probably gives democrats a ton of capital to expand the court.

    Dang pour one out for poor Georgia

    Election season is finally over and now suddenly it's been extended 2 months for them

    Oh, I'm sure they'll love being the focus of all that national attention.
    Just love it. :?

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  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    I expect Trump and his cronies have largely looted the RNC and have left it in shambles. There's going to be a ton of infighting.

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  • cncaudatacncaudata Registered User regular
    Ok, so now we know Nate is really bad at two things.

    Like.... Why would you use a picture with the island...

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    cncaudata wrote: »
    Ok, so now we know Nate is really bad at two things.

    Like.... Why would you use a picture with the island...

    Wait that was supposed to be "sea"?

    God fucking damn it, Nate

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  • MalyonsusMalyonsus Registered User regular
    The rebus really only works because Silver and Wasserman have been joking back and forth about the catchphrase all day

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  • RaijuRaiju regular Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Putin announced he’s stepping down. What in the fuck is 2020

    Putin stepping down is like him stepping down as prime minister only to announce himself as president for life the next day. I'm sure his next move is to proclaim himself Czar Emperor of Russia that comes with double the prize money.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    It is terrifying to me that if republicans were like 5% less evil they'd never lose an election

    Nah. They’d lose their base

    Having redeeming features would also open up the possibility for the media to criticize them without seeming to be as biased. Trump is objectively a garbage fire, but no one is allowed to actually say that about that popular of a politician so absolutely everything he does gets at least slightly glossed over.

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  • DiplominatorDiplominator Hardcore Porg Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i was gonna say hey guys putin doesn't have much to do with the election but

    I had the wrong tab open. Sorry everyone.

    But hey, current estimates are PA goes Biden and never looks back around midnight PST.

    Remember remember the 5th of November.


    Nate Silver is a stats nerd.

    We're on page 117, far past even anime. So I am obliged to make this post.

    {S}: 3:14 AM

    You thinking another Doctor song, or Megalovania?

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    cncaudata wrote: »
    Ok, so now we know Nate is really bad at two things.

    Like.... Why would you use a picture with the island...

    Wait that was supposed to be "sea"?

    God fucking damn it, Nate

    I would have used the Black, or the Caspian.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    I expect Trump and his cronies have largely looted the RNC and have left it in shambles. There's going to be a ton of infighting.

    We keep saying and hoping that Republicans are on the verge of imploding, but it never happens. We really need to face facts at some point that their batshit insane lying and shit is driving their turnout up and up. It could be tied to Trump's celebrity, but we keep doing better in Dem turnout, but they're doing better too.

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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i was gonna say hey guys putin doesn't have much to do with the election but

    I had the wrong tab open. Sorry everyone.

    But hey, current estimates are PA goes Biden and never looks back around midnight PST.

    Remember remember the 5th of November.


    Nate Silver is a stats nerd.

    We're on page 117, far past even anime. So I am obliged to make this post.

    {S}: 3:14 AM

    You thinking another Doctor song, or Megalovania?

    It'd be a custom track for sure.

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    I expect Trump and his cronies have largely looted the RNC and have left it in shambles. There's going to be a ton of infighting.

    We keep saying and hoping that Republicans are on the verge of imploding, but it never happens. We really need to face facts at some point that their batshit insane lying and shit is driving their turnout up and up. It could be tied to Trump's celebrity, but we keep doing better in Dem turnout, but they're doing better too.

    We still haven't seen what a Trump-exiled-from-the-GOP-but-still-rallying looks like

    At least 30 million of those voters are MAGA cultists, not Republicans

    Like if he's still kicking about in 2022 he's going to be MAGAing to suck up campaign funds for his 2024 run and taking all the cash out of the room for the GOP's midterm race

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  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    I expect Trump and his cronies have largely looted the RNC and have left it in shambles. There's going to be a ton of infighting.

    We keep saying and hoping that Republicans are on the verge of imploding, but it never happens. We really need to face facts at some point that their batshit insane lying and shit is driving their turnout up and up. It could be tied to Trump's celebrity, but we keep doing better in Dem turnout, but they're doing better too.

    It's not really baseless speculation or anything though. They were broke at the end of the election canceling ad buys and the like. Hundreds of millions of dollars funneled from the campaign through Trump owned shell corporations and on to undisclosed locations.

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    I expect Trump and his cronies have largely looted the RNC and have left it in shambles. There's going to be a ton of infighting.

    We keep saying and hoping that Republicans are on the verge of imploding, but it never happens. We really need to face facts at some point that their batshit insane lying and shit is driving their turnout up and up. It could be tied to Trump's celebrity, but we keep doing better in Dem turnout, but they're doing better too.

    We still haven't seen what a Trump-exiled-from-the-GOP-but-still-rallying looks like

    At least 30 million of those voters are MAGA cultists, not Republicans

    The MAGA cult is, to a great extent, the worship of power and authority, specifically that power and authority which is granted to the most important man they are aware of. If Donald Trump loses power, he will lose the respect of the MAGA cult. In addition, if he loses power, Twitter etc can ban him the next day because he's no longer a government official and at that point, how does Trump even talk to his base. Deplatforming has worked for everyone else after all, its hugely powerful, because angry cult members are also quite lazy and really are just responding to engagement algorithms, which will happily sheperd them along to the next angry white man, who hopefully won't be QUITE so angry.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    I expect Trump and his cronies have largely looted the RNC and have left it in shambles. There's going to be a ton of infighting.

    We keep saying and hoping that Republicans are on the verge of imploding, but it never happens. We really need to face facts at some point that their batshit insane lying and shit is driving their turnout up and up. It could be tied to Trump's celebrity, but we keep doing better in Dem turnout, but they're doing better too.

    It's not really baseless speculation or anything though. They were broke at the end of the election canceling ad buys and the like. Hundreds of millions of dollars funneled from the campaign through Trump owned shell corporations and on to undisclosed locations.

    Not just Trump owned. Didn't his campaign manager 'not embezzle' $30 million?

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