Is Doomguy really that wanted for Smash? I always thought that was a joke, like those who want Goku.
For a long time, the first-person shooter genre were collectively referred to as "Doom clones". It wasn't the first of its kind, but for practical purposes it defined its genre. The original game still holds up today, and as far as the Nintendo connection goes, there was a version of DOOM for the SNES. The Doom Slayer isn't my first choice of character, but I can't say there's no argument for him.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
The current speculation logic is that today is DOOM's twentysomething anniversary and also DOOM eternal released 2 days ago.
Insert meme it's all connected.
Is Doomguy really that wanted for Smash? I always thought that was a joke, like those who want Goku.
For a long time, the first-person shooter genre were collectively referred to as "Doom clones". It wasn't the first of its kind, but for practical purposes it defined its genre. The original game still holds up today, and as far as the Nintendo connection goes, there was a version of DOOM for the SNES. The Doom Slayer isn't my first choice of character, but I can't say there's no argument for him.
Plus the juxtaposition would be hilarious, especially seeing Mario and such on a Doom stage with demons running around and hard-driving metal.
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1. Marty Stratton has said that Nintendo has never approached them (id Software/Bethesda) about Doomguy/Doom Slayer
2. The producer of the Yakuza series, Toshihiro Nagoshi, has said he doesn't want Kiryu in a fighting game because he doesn't want to see Kiryu beat up women
hi I'm here to ruin people's fun
1. Marty Stratton has said that Nintendo has never approached them (id Software/Bethesda) about Doomguy/Doom Slayer
2. The producer of the Yakuza series, Toshihiro Nagoshi, has said he doesn't want Kiryu in a fighting game because he doesn't want to see Kiryu beat up women
The Shantae and Risky Boots spirits are in the game because Wayforward proactively submitted concept art to Nintendo for use in Smash. Nintendo hasn't approached them, but have they approached Nintendo? :biggrin:
... but, in all seriousness, I would tend to take people at their word, even in the face of NDAs making people talk out the sides of their mouths.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
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Shantae would be most excellent therefore it's not her.
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Brainiac 8Don't call me Shirley...Registered Userregular
I would love Shantae personally. As far as Indie icons, she is pretty much a poster child for them and has a long history with Nintendo. Plus her fighting style would be completely unique with her hair whips and animal transformations.
Shantae has more moveset potential recently than ever, with the new transformations from Seven Sirens. Monkey and Elephant are classic, but I really like stuff like the Dash Newt and Bonker Tortoise.
I can't recall if I ever wrote up my hypothetical Shantae moveset, so just in case, here's a repeat:
Shantae operates on a simple gimmick: all of her B moves are charge moves, but they all share a common charge-up. Meaning, you can press and hold B to start a transformation dance, but at any time you can move the control stick to change which dance you're doing, while retaining any accumulated charge. Releasing the button or reaching full charge activates the transformation move.
Neutral B: Mermaid Splash - Transform into a mermaid and splash water in all directions. At base charge, this merely pushes enemies away; at second tier, it erases incoming projectiles and has a wider area of effect; at maximum charge, it causes some damage and reflects projectiles.
Side B: Monkey Bullet - Transform into a monkey and dash forward, with velocity (and therefore total distance covered) increasing with charge time. Press B again to use the Monkey Claw for a swiping attack and end the charge.
Down B: Elephant Stomp - Transform into an elephant and smash the ground, increasing the size of the shockwave and damage inflicted with charge time. In the air, drops with precipitous speed, meteoring at full charge.
Up B: Harpy Flap - Transform into a harpy and fly in the air. Press B to flap your wings to gain height (similar to Villager's Balloon Fight), or press A to slash with her talons. Gain more total uses of flapping/slashing with charge time.
Personally, I would assign the game's recurring attack items for her smash attacks:
Forward Smash: Fireball - A short-ranged fireball, similar to Mega Man's Mega Buster smash. At full charge, emits three fireballs in a fan.
Down Smash: Pike Ball - Conjures a spikey ball that spins around Shantae, attacking in both directions. At full charge, turns into a Super Pike Ball (now there are two of them!).
Up Smash: Storm Puff - Raises a small cloud over her head that emits a burst of lightning. At full charge, it rises higher and strikes the full distance between it and her hands with lightning. (I am thinking maybe a character length, not Pikachu's Thunder.)
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
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One of the reasons I hoped for Sora in Smash (yes yes Disney devourer of all blah blah I know) was that Square's known for their pretty particle effects. They make some fuckin' gorgeous spell animations, even if they take too long to finish. And Sora has a lot more reason to be treated as a sort of "caster-swordsman" than Cloud, which would let him have more spells. Sephiroth appears to have spells for his B-moves (Reflect, some kind of darkness attack, Flare), which is refreshing.
EDIT: I'm guessing Safer Sephiroth / Supernova is his Final Smash.
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My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
There's an expectation in the community that these are reveals. People may want to see it for themselves and be surprised. The statute of limitations on these is obviously going to be short, but for, like, the first day after the trailer's released? Yeah, not just dropping it out there seems to be what people expect.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
But yeah, I can't think of a lot of things that would make me less enthusiastic than Sephiroth. We already have Cloud for our Final Fantasy 7 rep, who is a better character with a more interesting potential moveset (have you seen Sephiroth in the Dissidia games, it's hilarious how almost studiedly boring he is. Even his neutrals are him just sort of holding his sword aloofly while wind attacks come out because we can't let Sephiroth look like he might be making an effort).
Let some other Square games play, damn it! They have a ton of them!
But yeah, I can't think of a lot of things that would make me less enthusiastic than Sephiroth. We already have Cloud for our Final Fantasy 7 rep, who is a better character with a more interesting potential moveset (have you seen Sephiroth in the Dissidia games, it's hilarious how almost studiedly boring he is. Even his neutrals are him just sort of holding his sword aloofly while wind attacks come out because we can't let Sephiroth look like he might be making an effort).
Let some other Square games play, damn it! They have a ton of them!
On one hand, no series needs better representation than Final Fantasy. Give us Terra! Or Cecil! Or just Mog or something. Or maybe go from a different series and go Chrono (with Lucca or Magus as an assist trophy!)
On the other hand, the first few notes of the song kick in, and I still get chills. I'm an easy mark I guess.
You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
Seriously, I really wanted to have a character actually from a Final Fantasy game I played on Nintendo back in the day. But this does look like he'll be cool. But Terra, tho.
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For a long time, the first-person shooter genre were collectively referred to as "Doom clones". It wasn't the first of its kind, but for practical purposes it defined its genre. The original game still holds up today, and as far as the Nintendo connection goes, there was a version of DOOM for the SNES. The Doom Slayer isn't my first choice of character, but I can't say there's no argument for him.
Insert meme it's all connected.
Plus the juxtaposition would be hilarious, especially seeing Mario and such on a Doom stage with demons running around and hard-driving metal.
1. Marty Stratton has said that Nintendo has never approached them (id Software/Bethesda) about Doomguy/Doom Slayer
2. The producer of the Yakuza series, Toshihiro Nagoshi, has said he doesn't want Kiryu in a fighting game because he doesn't want to see Kiryu beat up women
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The Shantae and Risky Boots spirits are in the game because Wayforward proactively submitted concept art to Nintendo for use in Smash. Nintendo hasn't approached them, but have they approached Nintendo? :biggrin:
... but, in all seriousness, I would tend to take people at their word, even in the face of NDAs making people talk out the sides of their mouths.
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Shantae operates on a simple gimmick: all of her B moves are charge moves, but they all share a common charge-up. Meaning, you can press and hold B to start a transformation dance, but at any time you can move the control stick to change which dance you're doing, while retaining any accumulated charge. Releasing the button or reaching full charge activates the transformation move.
Neutral B: Mermaid Splash - Transform into a mermaid and splash water in all directions. At base charge, this merely pushes enemies away; at second tier, it erases incoming projectiles and has a wider area of effect; at maximum charge, it causes some damage and reflects projectiles.
Side B: Monkey Bullet - Transform into a monkey and dash forward, with velocity (and therefore total distance covered) increasing with charge time. Press B again to use the Monkey Claw for a swiping attack and end the charge.
Down B: Elephant Stomp - Transform into an elephant and smash the ground, increasing the size of the shockwave and damage inflicted with charge time. In the air, drops with precipitous speed, meteoring at full charge.
Up B: Harpy Flap - Transform into a harpy and fly in the air. Press B to flap your wings to gain height (similar to Villager's Balloon Fight), or press A to slash with her talons. Gain more total uses of flapping/slashing with charge time.
Personally, I would assign the game's recurring attack items for her smash attacks:
Forward Smash: Fireball - A short-ranged fireball, similar to Mega Man's Mega Buster smash. At full charge, emits three fireballs in a fan.
Down Smash: Pike Ball - Conjures a spikey ball that spins around Shantae, attacking in both directions. At full charge, turns into a Super Pike Ball (now there are two of them!).
Up Smash: Storm Puff - Raises a small cloud over her head that emits a burst of lightning. At full charge, it rises higher and strikes the full distance between it and her hands with lightning. (I am thinking maybe a character length, not Pikachu's Thunder.)
... I'll allow it
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He’s got a counter: Scintilla.
Looks like Shadow Flare is a status attack that explodes later.
He can stick to walls? Huh.
They really like leaning into the “MARIO FUCKING DIED” jokes, huh?
FFVII is getting a second arena. One for each song the game has in Smash.
It’s looking like Cloud is getting a variant of his Final Smash if he’s equipped with his Advent Children costume.
Are they adding Safer Sephiroth as a new boss fight?
37 year old me... is indifferent. Ain't against it, I just have no strong feelings one way or another for it now.
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EDIT: I'm guessing Safer Sephiroth / Supernova is his Final Smash.
That makes his "Nintendo" game literally Theatrhythm as far as I can tell.
FFVII is on the Switch at this point.
Though if nothing else:
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My reaction was:
"Oh fuck off you didn't!"
Followed by:
"Yeah that's what I thought!"
Did I mention that Sephiroth, villain of Final Fantasy VII, the one where Aeris dies, is in Smash Ultimate? Because he is!
What did I do?
the trailer had the black mages version of one winged angel
Let some other Square games play, damn it! They have a ton of them!
The character is just alright for dlc but the trailer at least is top notch.
On one hand, no series needs better representation than Final Fantasy. Give us Terra! Or Cecil! Or just Mog or something. Or maybe go from a different series and go Chrono (with Lucca or Magus as an assist trophy!)
On the other hand, the first few notes of the song kick in, and I still get chills. I'm an easy mark I guess.
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