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My Mom bought some kind of brass instrument at a yardsale when I was a kid so she could resell it.
But I learned how to do that intro horn but good.
"A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."
"Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!
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The Kingdom is easily Von Trier's best work, which ended on quite a cliffhanger with the second season. And, of course, a large amount of its actors are now dead, so I dunno...
I just don't see this working without Fru Drusse and Dr. Stig Helmer...
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Hearing that the new miniseries adaptation of the Stand starts in Boulder, after the superflu, and that sounds like a real big mistake! I know that like...maybe appetites for "everyone dies in a pandemic," are lower than they've ever been, but also: if you're adapting a story about a pandemic that kills 99% of the population, you uh...you've made your bed, is what I'd say. And the characters going through the pandemic and its aftermath is where, you know, you learn who those characters were and are and you experience their growth, this isn't really a situation where you can Lost flashback explain every character's backstory in an episode.
It's a difficult story to adapt, I'm sure, because it's kind of a mess, but skipping over the most compelling parts of the story isn't a great first step, especially when you skip them to get to the parts a lot of people agree aren't nearly as interesting
Hearing that the new miniseries adaptation of the Stand starts in Boulder, after the superflu, and that sounds like a real big mistake! I know that like...maybe appetites for "everyone dies in a pandemic," are lower than they've ever been, but also: if you're adapting a story about a pandemic that kills 99% of the population, you uh...you've made your bed, is what I'd say. And the characters going through the pandemic and its aftermath is where, you know, you learn who those characters were and are and you experience their growth, this isn't really a situation where you can Lost flashback explain every character's backstory in an episode.
It's a difficult story to adapt, I'm sure, because it's kind of a mess, but skipping over the most compelling parts of the story isn't a great first step, especially when you skip them to get to the parts a lot of people agree aren't nearly as interesting
From some of the previews it looks like they are going to flashback to the first stages of the plague. I've heard interviews where they worked real hard on the Captain Tripps Tube neck special effects.
Hearing that the new miniseries adaptation of the Stand starts in Boulder, after the superflu, and that sounds like a real big mistake! I know that like...maybe appetites for "everyone dies in a pandemic," are lower than they've ever been, but also: if you're adapting a story about a pandemic that kills 99% of the population, you uh...you've made your bed, is what I'd say. And the characters going through the pandemic and its aftermath is where, you know, you learn who those characters were and are and you experience their growth, this isn't really a situation where you can Lost flashback explain every character's backstory in an episode.
It's a difficult story to adapt, I'm sure, because it's kind of a mess, but skipping over the most compelling parts of the story isn't a great first step, especially when you skip them to get to the parts a lot of people agree aren't nearly as interesting
From some of the previews it looks like they are going to flashback to the first stages of the plague. I've heard interviews where they worked real hard on the Captain Tripps Tube neck special effects.
This kind of storytelling can work when your show is more mystery focused; it famously worked really well on Lost! I think if you're going to fill in character backstories this way, these backstories can't really be connected. It's not just the characters' personal growth that takes place in the midst of the pandemic, it's how these characters meet up and come together and form relationships. And the bulk of their character growth in the story, and the bulk of them forming some key relationships, comes in the pre-Boulder sections of the book. There's some characters who only meet up in Boulder, sure, but Stu's group has four fairly significant characters who form some pretty key relationships before they meet up, and consigning those to flashbacks seems like a problem they didn't need to foist upon themselves.
Also, I guess spoilers, I think I've been talking around them so far, but here's some specific stuff from the book:
Frannie's story largely stops so she can be a pregnant lady in Boulder. She gets like, one bit where she does a thing that isn't just "being pregnant," in Colorado, when she sneaks into Harold's home, but even in the leadership group, she's largely there to take notes and fret. Most of her stuff is during the plague and on the road. Now, obviously, they could expand her role in the show, and they probably should. I don't know if they did. I would be very surprised if they did, honestly, but it's possible that they could have.
But she's not the only character that would have problems here. Nick gets to do more than Frannie in Boulder, but it's not a lot of stuff, and then he gets blown up, and I can't imagine that landing as powerfully as it does in the book when you haven't spent so much time with Nick. I guess it depends on when they blow everyone up, but I guess the absolute latest episode it would be in is...episode seven, out of nine? Maybe six? Gotta figure there's a whole episode of them walking to Vegas, then one in Vegas, and then like, the epilogue? (Though I've heard they've changed the ending, so who knows, I imagine they at least send them on their walk to Vegas). Are they gonna spend that many episodes just spinning wheels in Boulder?
I dunno, maybe when it's all released I'll get a CBS trial and check it out to see what they do with it, but like...I dunno. I don't love the Stand, but there's some stuff that book does extremely well, and it's beloved for a reason, it just...seems like maybe the people who made this miniseries don't fully understand what works about it, or...it's an incredibly difficult novel to adapt and they did what they could to wrangle it into something that wouldn't have an exorbitant price tag (if they spend the bulk of the series in Boulder and Vegas they don't have to figure out how to make it look like everyone's wandering around the entire country)
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Hearing that the new miniseries adaptation of the Stand starts in Boulder, after the superflu, and that sounds like a real big mistake! I know that like...maybe appetites for "everyone dies in a pandemic," are lower than they've ever been, but also: if you're adapting a story about a pandemic that kills 99% of the population, you uh...you've made your bed, is what I'd say. And the characters going through the pandemic and its aftermath is where, you know, you learn who those characters were and are and you experience their growth, this isn't really a situation where you can Lost flashback explain every character's backstory in an episode.
It's a difficult story to adapt, I'm sure, because it's kind of a mess, but skipping over the most compelling parts of the story isn't a great first step, especially when you skip them to get to the parts a lot of people agree aren't nearly as interesting
From some of the previews it looks like they are going to flashback to the first stages of the plague. I've heard interviews where they worked real hard on the Captain Tripps Tube neck special effects.
This kind of storytelling can work when your show is more mystery focused; it famously worked really well on Lost! I think if you're going to fill in character backstories this way, these backstories can't really be connected. It's not just the characters' personal growth that takes place in the midst of the pandemic, it's how these characters meet up and come together and form relationships. And the bulk of their character growth in the story, and the bulk of them forming some key relationships, comes in the pre-Boulder sections of the book. There's some characters who only meet up in Boulder, sure, but Stu's group has four fairly significant characters who form some pretty key relationships before they meet up, and consigning those to flashbacks seems like a problem they didn't need to foist upon themselves.
Also, I guess spoilers, I think I've been talking around them so far, but here's some specific stuff from the book:
Frannie's story largely stops so she can be a pregnant lady in Boulder. She gets like, one bit where she does a thing that isn't just "being pregnant," in Colorado, when she sneaks into Harold's home, but even in the leadership group, she's largely there to take notes and fret. Most of her stuff is during the plague and on the road. Now, obviously, they could expand her role in the show, and they probably should. I don't know if they did. I would be very surprised if they did, honestly, but it's possible that they could have.
But she's not the only character that would have problems here. Nick gets to do more than Frannie in Boulder, but it's not a lot of stuff, and then he gets blown up, and I can't imagine that landing as powerfully as it does in the book when you haven't spent so much time with Nick. I guess it depends on when they blow everyone up, but I guess the absolute latest episode it would be in is...episode seven, out of nine? Maybe six? Gotta figure there's a whole episode of them walking to Vegas, then one in Vegas, and then like, the epilogue? (Though I've heard they've changed the ending, so who knows, I imagine they at least send them on their walk to Vegas). Are they gonna spend that many episodes just spinning wheels in Boulder?
I dunno, maybe when it's all released I'll get a CBS trial and check it out to see what they do with it, but like...I dunno. I don't love the Stand, but there's some stuff that book does extremely well, and it's beloved for a reason, it just...seems like maybe the people who made this miniseries don't fully understand what works about it, or...it's an incredibly difficult novel to adapt and they did what they could to wrangle it into something that wouldn't have an exorbitant price tag (if they spend the bulk of the series in Boulder and Vegas they don't have to figure out how to make it look like everyone's wandering around the entire country)
The reports I've heard say they've reworked it pretty hard to remove the problematic stuff from the book, so it might be a more significant retooling than just a straight adaptation, which I think could work. King's work does better on screen when greater liberties are taken.
I think one of the problems with the Stand is that a lot of the problematic stuff is either completely inessential, or extremely load-bearing. Tom Cullen and Mother Abigail are very important to the plot, but there's only so much you can change about them to make them less problematic without changing key parts of those characters' identity. Mother Abigail is maybe easier to update than Tom Cullen.
Read a review of part one, it's already made one frustrating change, but...I dunno, I don't really want to spend my night pre-emptively complaining about a show I haven't watched. Will say that it doesn't give me much confidence that they've figured out what to do with Frannie!
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The Stand was the second King thing I tried to read after Dark Tower.
I bought the Unabridged version.
I regretted this immensely.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I read The Stand during a very strange period in my life, where I was by and large untethered from reality, so the whole book felt like a fever dream. I watched the first episode of this new tv show and found it boring as fuck. Nothing happened
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That's a funny way to say Ducktales.
I have a big hardcover Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck sitting on my shelf next to me
Golden Girls is better than Duck Tales
literally not what i said
That’s a funny way to not say what you didn’t say.
They only meant well. Of course they did.
My Mom bought some kind of brass instrument at a yardsale when I was a kid so she could resell it.
But I learned how to do that intro horn but good.
"Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor
My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!
I don't know what song would be the go-to Lost theme.
But I know that my absolute favorite piece of music from the show is Locke'd Out Again.
excuse me
The intro was way cooler than the show deserved
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god damn it so much
Agreed
The bluegrass-rap mashup thing from Justified
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I just don't see this working without Fru Drusse and Dr. Stig Helmer...
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
it is perfect; i don't need any more
Coran Attack!
It's a difficult story to adapt, I'm sure, because it's kind of a mess, but skipping over the most compelling parts of the story isn't a great first step, especially when you skip them to get to the parts a lot of people agree aren't nearly as interesting
Star Trek enterprise (altho I did kind of end up digging it Stockholm syndrome style)
I also liked that 70s show intro
From some of the previews it looks like they are going to flashback to the first stages of the plague. I've heard interviews where they worked real hard on the Captain Tripps Tube neck special effects.
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This kind of storytelling can work when your show is more mystery focused; it famously worked really well on Lost! I think if you're going to fill in character backstories this way, these backstories can't really be connected. It's not just the characters' personal growth that takes place in the midst of the pandemic, it's how these characters meet up and come together and form relationships. And the bulk of their character growth in the story, and the bulk of them forming some key relationships, comes in the pre-Boulder sections of the book. There's some characters who only meet up in Boulder, sure, but Stu's group has four fairly significant characters who form some pretty key relationships before they meet up, and consigning those to flashbacks seems like a problem they didn't need to foist upon themselves.
Also, I guess spoilers, I think I've been talking around them so far, but here's some specific stuff from the book:
But she's not the only character that would have problems here. Nick gets to do more than Frannie in Boulder, but it's not a lot of stuff, and then he gets blown up, and I can't imagine that landing as powerfully as it does in the book when you haven't spent so much time with Nick. I guess it depends on when they blow everyone up, but I guess the absolute latest episode it would be in is...episode seven, out of nine? Maybe six? Gotta figure there's a whole episode of them walking to Vegas, then one in Vegas, and then like, the epilogue? (Though I've heard they've changed the ending, so who knows, I imagine they at least send them on their walk to Vegas). Are they gonna spend that many episodes just spinning wheels in Boulder?
I dunno, maybe when it's all released I'll get a CBS trial and check it out to see what they do with it, but like...I dunno. I don't love the Stand, but there's some stuff that book does extremely well, and it's beloved for a reason, it just...seems like maybe the people who made this miniseries don't fully understand what works about it, or...it's an incredibly difficult novel to adapt and they did what they could to wrangle it into something that wouldn't have an exorbitant price tag (if they spend the bulk of the series in Boulder and Vegas they don't have to figure out how to make it look like everyone's wandering around the entire country)
The reports I've heard say they've reworked it pretty hard to remove the problematic stuff from the book, so it might be a more significant retooling than just a straight adaptation, which I think could work. King's work does better on screen when greater liberties are taken.
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Read a review of part one, it's already made one frustrating change, but...I dunno, I don't really want to spend my night pre-emptively complaining about a show I haven't watched. Will say that it doesn't give me much confidence that they've figured out what to do with Frannie!
I bought the Unabridged version.
I regretted this immensely.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
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