demon's souls is cool, and in some ways i'm more impressed with its boss fights than any other game. that said it's got some fuckin' merciless boss runs. also, you have to farm for healing items, which is annoying even if it's not that bad in practice.
dark souls 1 is really cool. the first 2/3rds are so are excellent, the last third is really spotty, the weird kaathe shit is cool enough that i can forgive it.
dark souls 2 is a good time, it's big and expansive and fun to explore all the different directions, but it's undercut a bit by most of the game being pretty ugly to look at. it probably belongs low on the list just because it's got stiff competition but it's a great game in its own right
bloodborne is pretty good, the trick weapons are fun, but there's not enough variation in the environments and farming for blood vials is fuckin' miserable, not to mention the way you have to sit through two loading screens any time you want to level up or do anything in the dream. i like it just fine but I straight-up don't understand why it's so far and away the most popular one of these when IMO it belongs near the bottom.
dark souls 3 didn't make a big impression on me at the time but i've been meaning it go back to it, it's definitely got some good shit goin' for it even if the formula was wearing a bit thin by this point
sekiro is a big enough departure that it's debatable whether it even counts as a souls, but also, it fuckin' slaps. the movement feels great, the parry system kicks the shit out of you until you get the hang of it and then it feels amazing, the environments are gorgeous and varied despite being contained in a relatively small geographic space, most of the boss fights are just 1v1 duels but it somehow avoids the sameyness that DS2 occasionally falls into, it takes like 15-20 hours to beat the first time through but then every subsequent playthrough takes about a third of that which feels rad. I really don't have a single bad thing to say about Sekiro, other than a criticism that applies to every game in the series and which I don't wanna bring up here because precedent says it'll devour the entire thread
So should I play the Dark Souls games in order then
you might be able to skate by with playing Bloodborne first, because its so different it might not annoy the shit out of you that the older games feel like molasses
but for the dark souls games proper, you should play them in order... or at least play DS1 before DS3, because nearly every aspect of DS3 is a reference to either DS1 or Demons Souls and it will all be lost on you without a working knowledge of those games
I've been playing Nioh and it's a pretty dang good Soulsborne, and the best one not made by From. Something about how the game is divided up into missions that have natural endings--boss fights for example--makes the game more approachable. Little bite-sized chunks of killing many, many youkai.
one of things i don't like about nioh is the dodging is kind of ass. i don't think there's any i-frames; it's just "get out of the way or get hit" and i've been to conditioned to expect i-frames to get that through my thick skull
farming for blood vials is fuckin' miserable, not to mention the way you have to sit through two loading screens any time you want to level up or do anything in the dream.
i don't know when you last played but they fixed both of those issues, thank goodness.
farming for blood vials is fuckin' miserable, not to mention the way you have to sit through two loading screens any time you want to level up or do anything in the dream.
i don't know when you last played but they fixed both of those issues, thank goodness.
i just did a playthrough this year and they maybe improved them but they didn't fix them
i still spent what probably added up to a couple hours running loops in central yharnam to farm vials, and sat through two loading screens every time i needed to reset the enemies to keep farming
farming for blood vials is fuckin' miserable, not to mention the way you have to sit through two loading screens any time you want to level up or do anything in the dream.
i don't know when you last played but they fixed both of those issues, thank goodness.
How did they fix the vials because I for sure hated it the first time but now I've got them spilling out of my butt
farming for blood vials is fuckin' miserable, not to mention the way you have to sit through two loading screens any time you want to level up or do anything in the dream.
i don't know when you last played but they fixed both of those issues, thank goodness.
i just did a playthrough this year and they maybe improved them but they didn't fix them
i still spent what probably added up to a couple hours running loops in central yharnam to farm vials, and sat through two loading screens every time i needed to reset the enemies to keep farming
they really improved the load times i thought but yeah if you still didn't like the blood vial drop rate and buying them the game would end up being pretty annoyingly bad
i'm crap at the game so i was always grinding for levels on scrubs; i guess i always had a hefty supply of vials because of that
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I went with Sekiro because I genuinely think that has some of their most interesting and complete thematic storytelling and dope-as-hell combat, but it is absolutely not a Soulsbourne game and should not be on this list to begin with! It's just a From game with checkpoints, it has no other real connection
the evidence for sekiro not being a souls games is actually evidence that it is the first true sequel to demon's souls.
but it has a moonlight greatsword... and patches.. basically sort of does send you into a pit? he doesn't kick you, but there is a pit. and patches is involved.
I've been playing Nioh and it's a pretty dang good Soulsborne, and the best one not made by From. Something about how the game is divided up into missions that have natural endings--boss fights for example--makes the game more approachable. Little bite-sized chunks of killing many, many youkai.
one of things i don't like about nioh is the dodging is kind of ass. i don't think there's any i-frames; it's just "get out of the way or get hit" and i've been to conditioned to expect i-frames to get that through my thick skull
This is completely fair, and I also spent considerable time training myself to not try and dodge constantly. And honestly I like blocking better, because I'm a huge coward.
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One thing I'll say about the first Dark Souls and its stats is, I disagree with the "general consensus" about the Resistance stat. Under specific framing that is. Getting it up to 20 or 30 (I forget which it is, it's been a while since I've played) is absolutely worthwhile and makes noticeable differences in the mitigation provided. Like I know about the diminishing returns and that much is absolutely true earlier for this stat than most others, but a few points invested is Good, Actually.™ I know one of the arguments is "you can just change your armor if you want poison resist or whatever else," but considering the menuing is active time, that's fucking dangerous and it's not easy to do on the fly. Also, change your armor for everything you might run into is a slow as fuck way to play the game.
Ah, a poison thing!
Change armor.
Ah, a combat thing!
Change armor.
Ah, a poison thing again!
Change armor.
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One thing I'll say about the first Dark Souls and its stats is, I disagree with the "general consensus" about the Resistance stat. Under specific framing that is. Getting it up to 20 or 30 (I forget which it is, it's been a while since I've played) is absolutely worthwhile and makes noticeable differences in the mitigation provided. Like I know about the diminishing returns and that much is absolutely true earlier for this stat than most others, but a few points invested is Good, Actually.™ I know one of the arguments is "you can just change your armor if you want poison resist or whatever else," but considering the menuing is active time, that's fucking dangerous and it's not easy to do on the fly. Also, change your armor for everything you might run into is a slow as fuck way to play the game.
Ah, a poison thing!
Change armor.
Ah, a combat thing!
Change armor.
Ah, a poison thing again!
Change armor.
Solution to poison is ignore it or eat some cheap moss. Solution to toxic is eat some moss after you murder the mob that doesn't respawn. Changing gear for poison is pointless and putting points into Resistance is worse than just loading them into Vitality.
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I hated code vein
It plays and looks like one of those super metroid fan games made by people who've got no idea what made the original work
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dark souls 1 is really cool. the first 2/3rds are so are excellent, the last third is really spotty, the weird kaathe shit is cool enough that i can forgive it.
dark souls 2 is a good time, it's big and expansive and fun to explore all the different directions, but it's undercut a bit by most of the game being pretty ugly to look at. it probably belongs low on the list just because it's got stiff competition but it's a great game in its own right
bloodborne is pretty good, the trick weapons are fun, but there's not enough variation in the environments and farming for blood vials is fuckin' miserable, not to mention the way you have to sit through two loading screens any time you want to level up or do anything in the dream. i like it just fine but I straight-up don't understand why it's so far and away the most popular one of these when IMO it belongs near the bottom.
dark souls 3 didn't make a big impression on me at the time but i've been meaning it go back to it, it's definitely got some good shit goin' for it even if the formula was wearing a bit thin by this point
sekiro is a big enough departure that it's debatable whether it even counts as a souls, but also, it fuckin' slaps. the movement feels great, the parry system kicks the shit out of you until you get the hang of it and then it feels amazing, the environments are gorgeous and varied despite being contained in a relatively small geographic space, most of the boss fights are just 1v1 duels but it somehow avoids the sameyness that DS2 occasionally falls into, it takes like 15-20 hours to beat the first time through but then every subsequent playthrough takes about a third of that which feels rad. I really don't have a single bad thing to say about Sekiro, other than a criticism that applies to every game in the series and which I don't wanna bring up here because precedent says it'll devour the entire thread
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you might be able to skate by with playing Bloodborne first, because its so different it might not annoy the shit out of you that the older games feel like molasses
but for the dark souls games proper, you should play them in order... or at least play DS1 before DS3, because nearly every aspect of DS3 is a reference to either DS1 or Demons Souls and it will all be lost on you without a working knowledge of those games
im moving through now and will likely beat it, the combat is very fun and progression is enjoyable
I fuckin hate how this game looks yall
i hate it
the dark souls games are all grody but have some beauty to their designs. This is either gross or insanely bland
like beyond just the designs
everything is the same damned color, to the point where enemies sometimes look camouflaged against the background
theres some cool stuff here and there but it really isnt working for me visually
one of things i don't like about nioh is the dodging is kind of ass. i don't think there's any i-frames; it's just "get out of the way or get hit" and i've been to conditioned to expect i-frames to get that through my thick skull
i don't know when you last played but they fixed both of those issues, thank goodness.
i just did a playthrough this year and they maybe improved them but they didn't fix them
i still spent what probably added up to a couple hours running loops in central yharnam to farm vials, and sat through two loading screens every time i needed to reset the enemies to keep farming
http://www.audioentropy.com/
How did they fix the vials because I for sure hated it the first time but now I've got them spilling out of my butt
did they just increase drop rate by a lot?
i.e. the mod that's going to be available within about five minutes if and when bloodborne ever comes to pc
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Yeah I'd still MUCH prefer the estus flask system
But this time around I have only run out in very very few instances
they really improved the load times i thought but yeah if you still didn't like the blood vial drop rate and buying them the game would end up being pretty annoyingly bad
i'm crap at the game so i was always grinding for levels on scrubs; i guess i always had a hefty supply of vials because of that
If it weren't there I'd pick Bloodborne
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You could argue this is because I'm stupid
But in my defense it doesn't look like fur literally at all
Bloodborne is the only one of these I've finished like half a dozen times now
but it has a moonlight greatsword... and patches.. basically sort of does send you into a pit? he doesn't kick you, but there is a pit. and patches is involved.
This is completely fair, and I also spent considerable time training myself to not try and dodge constantly. And honestly I like blocking better, because I'm a huge coward.
Am I doing it right
no you shouldn't be playing dark souls at all
yes
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Ah, a poison thing!
Change armor.
Ah, a combat thing!
Change armor.
Ah, a poison thing again!
Change armor.
oh lawd he comin'
I'd probably give Bloodborne a shot if it came to Steam, though.
You might like Remnant; I found it similar but easier.
Solution to poison is ignore it or eat some cheap moss. Solution to toxic is eat some moss after you murder the mob that doesn't respawn. Changing gear for poison is pointless and putting points into Resistance is worse than just loading them into Vitality.
It plays and looks like one of those super metroid fan games made by people who've got no idea what made the original work
yeah but anime tiddies