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[League of Legends] Here comes the Smolder

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    R-demR-dem Registered User regular
    I had one of those mornings where I was like "I'm going to spam Xayah!" and then I proceeded to forget how to play ADC and get hammered horribly for several games until I decided to take a break and play Leona instead and then I did the hammering and got my Mastery 7 with her

    So

    Mission accomplished?

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Can someone tell me what happened to anivia? Evidently she's really good right now watching all stars. Was it the items or a change to her specifically? Heard froggen is upset because she's always banned in solo que now lol

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    She got mini reworked in 10.25 and she was terrifyingly to lane against if you didn’t have mobility to jump the wall. Patch notes probably explain it better, was a lot of damage and mana changes.

    Got nerfed in 10.25b but I think she’s still really high numbers.

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    She got mini reworked in 10.25 and she was terrifyingly to lane against if you didn’t have mobility to jump the wall. Patch notes probably explain it better, was a lot of damage and mana changes.

    Got nerfed in 10.25b but I think she’s still really high numbers.

    The biggest change is the missile speed on Q--so much faster now!

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    AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Im having fun with Nexus Blitz mode - it makes it pretty easy to farm S ranks as junglers, so I am able to use that fact before new season starts.

    My best friend got the same legendary skin twice from Hextech chests - for the character he does not own, and role he does not play (God Fist Lee Sin).

    So, of course, now the same happened to me, as I've acquired High Noon Lucian - if swapping skins between players was possible, we would definitely exchange our loot.

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Why does nexus blitz look like dominion? I could have swore I played nexus blitz years ago and it wasn't like this

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    if nobody on your team takes smite it should give you a 3 minute remake window just like if someone's afk

    have to waste 21 minutes because our "jg" "doesn't see" they didn't get mid and we get stomped but they refuse to surrender. just totally pointless waste of everyone's time.

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    R-demR-dem Registered User regular
    My favorite "didn't get mid" story comes from doing my placements a few months back: The enemy team had a support pick Talon, who then forced his way mid, making their Diana go bot. He was decently good and racked up a respectable KDA, but the team lost because their bot lane was so far behind ours. Then, in post-game lobby, he started trash-talking about his team, at which point literally everyone agreed that his team would have won if not for him.

    His rage was delicious.

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    Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    Smite even gets auto picked if you’re jungler! What a doo doo head

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    ya it's just extremely annoying.

    in better news, is there any feeling in league better than flashing a fairly close range malphite ult by like, a nothingth of a second. i switched from comcast to verizon this week and the 13ms ping drop that has gone with it might have actually been the margin on that one, it was so close.

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    pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    Might gotta take a good few months away from this and hope they make some radical changes. Everything just feels so bad, even ARAMs have had all the fun sucked out of them.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    I do not know how Rell has such a low win rate.

    I've just being fucking around with her the past few days and am sitting at 80% with 2 S ranks. Super delightfully fun to be able to play both agro engage and peel tank at the same time.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    i wish i could figure out what i'm doing wrong on ashe. my ashe wr is so tremendously bad this preseason. i've mostly rescued my jinx wr, but ashe is still sitting at low 40s, and my ashe winrate has always been bad compared to my other ADs. she's supposed to be such an easy character but i'm m7 on her and i just never have been able to hold up a good winrate.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    I do not know how Rell has such a low win rate.

    I've just being fucking around with her the past few days and am sitting at 80% with 2 S ranks. Super delightfully fun to be able to play both agro engage and peel tank at the same time.

    Honestly, I think her kit’s mostly there, just that she could use a numbers tuning pass or maybe something else on her ult. With how hard she has to commit to a fight for it, maybe have it apply Grounded to enemies affected so they can’t just sneeze and get out of it?

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Playing more I think the big issue is that her Q doesn't actually fucking do anything.

    You ain't maxing it first, that's going to your E to get you lower CD stuns and by the time you're maxing it second it doesn't scale off of anything and the heal doesn't grow at all.

    Like my S rank games involved 300 damage a minute because Rell literally can't do damage. Which is fine when you're a head but feels really bad when 20% of your kit does literally nothing and your team can't make up for that.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    her w is also extremely dangerous because it can be interrupted by everything and then she's just up shit creek waddling around at 3 movement speed.

    a good thresh should be able to basically just remove rell from the entire lane because every time she initiates, he flays, and she dies. but he can keep fishing for her adc no problem.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Yeah, more or less my Rell has worked obscenely well getting to multiply a Kayne or Tristana that's doing well.

    But outside the first 10 minutes I don't really feel like I have huge degrees of agency unless someone is keeping pace with the gold to make up for my complete lack of damage.

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    What re eternal skins? I have like 8 of them and have no clue what they do.

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    i wish i could figure out what i'm doing wrong on ashe. my ashe wr is so tremendously bad this preseason. i've mostly rescued my jinx wr, but ashe is still sitting at low 40s, and my ashe winrate has always been bad compared to my other ADs. she's supposed to be such an easy character but i'm m7 on her and i just never have been able to hold up a good winrate.

    I have the same problem

    I think it's because often I choose Ashe in games where I think 'oh no, we have absolutely no cc or engage so better pack an arrow'--so it's already losing conditions because of the team comp? Well and of course, the effects of not playing my main--everyone drops a few percent wr when shifting off their most played champs.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Ashe can't really fix no front line because while she can bring engage she's then an imobile ADC whose only protection is slowing folks in a meta full of dashing assassins and bruisers.

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Ashe can't really fix no front line because while she can bring engage she's then an imobile ADC whose only protection is slowing folks in a meta full of dashing assassins and bruisers.

    I believe her current build is on hit and or ap. Saw sneaky doing something with her.

    But she's always good because of her r and her ability to kite.

    Maybe don't play as aggressive and attack move backwards?

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    SproutSprout Registered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    What re eternal skins? I have like 8 of them and have no clue what they do.

    Eternals aren't skins, they're champion-specific stat tracking things. There are generic ones for every champ (takedowns, structures destroyed, and epic monsters killed, iirc) and "premium" ones that drill down to the champion's abilities. Like, how many arrows you've hit as Ashe or something. If you've seen those pop-ups mid-match denoting when someone's hit some milestone with them, those are from eternals.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    Ashe can't really fix no front line because while she can bring engage she's then an imobile ADC whose only protection is slowing folks in a meta full of dashing assassins and bruisers.

    I believe her current build is on hit and or ap. Saw sneaky doing something with her.

    But she's always good because of her r and her ability to kite.

    Maybe don't play as aggressive and attack move backwards?

    I am speaking as someone who does well with her and has being playing both builds (DPS or Mandate).

    The kiting is great but needs enough of a front line to actually force dashes and other gap closers out initially. If a team has no front line I'd usually pick Samira or Xayah who are way more slippery.

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    edited December 2020
    RickRude wrote: »
    Ashe can't really fix no front line because while she can bring engage she's then an imobile ADC whose only protection is slowing folks in a meta full of dashing assassins and bruisers.

    I believe her current build is on hit and or ap. Saw sneaky doing something with her.

    But she's always good because of her r and her ability to kite.

    Maybe don't play as aggressive and attack move backwards?

    I am speaking as someone who does well with her and has being playing both builds (DPS or Mandate).

    The kiting is great but needs enough of a front line to actually force dashes and other gap closers out initially. If a team has no front line I'd usually pick Samira or Xayah who are way more slippery.

    I wasn't trying to be snarky or that you didn't know how to play her. I just know jinx is your main who you play very agressively with, and with ashe while you can chase down with your w and passive,you can also kite really well.

    I don't play much adc but she's never clicked with me. Even in aram I just spam w and r fools, don't really get the little details that make her good.

    Sneaky out up a video a few weeks back doing really well with her but I don't know what he built. Pretty sure he built anmurimana

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    https://youtu.be/RUHPSrBKhgg

    Not sure if you like streamers but sneaky is chill

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    mandate muramana is good but it's also incredibly boring and i have literally no interest in any of that dumb cheese that only works because adcs are such trash in season 11.

    comet mf e max is the same crap, it's so stupid.

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    the first time I played mf (in ARAM, admittedly) I definitely thought she was a spellcaster

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    AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    So far, I have acquired 1160 event points (I bought Event Pass). Considering that I no longer get random event quests, do you think it is viable for me to try to get to 2000, if I play maybe 5 games per day?

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    IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    So far, I have acquired 1160 event points (I bought Event Pass). Considering that I no longer get random event quests, do you think it is viable for me to try to get to 2000, if I play maybe 5 games per day?

    Absolutely. Remember there are still the weekly play missions that'll add another 525 tokens. Not sure if you're doing Rift or the lesser ones, but even if you assume 5 games a day for...I dunno, two weeks (there's a bit more than that), that'd be another ~300 tokens. It's very doable.

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    AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    It's good to hear, I was not sure if I will get more missions with bonus tokens.

    Now, I should also think about if I even want this Diana skin, or should I just buy 10 Orbs - I already have Lunar Goddess Diana, so im not sure if another skin for this champion is necessary.

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    IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    It's good to hear, I was not sure if I will get more missions with bonus tokens.

    Now, I should also think about if I even want this Diana skin, or should I just buy 10 Orbs - I already have Lunar Goddess Diana, so im not sure if another skin for this champion is necessary.

    I don't even like the skin very much and greatly prefer LG, but you do you.

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    League of Legends: Doctor Ivellius
    Twitch, probably another place or two I forget: LPIvellius
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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    it is your basically only chance to get it though, so if you're interested at all i would push for it.

    i still regret not picking up prestige BA lux.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I got my first penta in a normal game last night.

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    AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    I wonder - is there any place to read detailed opinions of various champions state in the meta? Tier list mostly just list them in one of few categories from what I saw, but rarely can I find detailed reviews of, for example, how Kindred or Camille are doing nowadays.

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    IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    I wonder - is there any place to read detailed opinions of various champions state in the meta? Tier list mostly just list them in one of few categories from what I saw, but rarely can I find detailed reviews of, for example, how Kindred or Camille are doing nowadays.

    I don't think this is what you're asking, but I usually hit https://na.op.gg/champion/statistics or https://u.gg/lol/champions/ and draw my own conclusions. You can infer a decent amount, but I don't know of anyone doing super-detailed reviews (and likely because such are typically outdated within a few weeks).

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    League of Legends: Doctor Ivellius
    Twitch, probably another place or two I forget: LPIvellius
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    TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Lolalytics.com is what i use.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Also tiers vary wildly based on MMR bands

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    GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    Just started playing this again for the first time since...before Summoner's Rift was completely overhauled? It's pretty great! Being able to queue for specific roles is amazing, and the rune changes (last time I played you were still buying incremental stat increases for IP) are so, so good. I started a new account to re-teach myself how to play; my base mechanics are shit, but it's crazy how far just basic map awareness and a sense of your own mortality can go in the early levels. Blitz.gg is an incredible tool that I don't know how I ever played without.

    I think the MMR is catching up to me though, over the course of ~10-15 games I went from MVP every game to middle of the pack pretty quick. Probably I might as well transition back to my level 30 account at some point? Or is it worth just going the rest of the way (currently 13) for more practice?

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Just started playing this again for the first time since...before Summoner's Rift was completely overhauled? It's pretty great! Being able to queue for specific roles is amazing, and the rune changes (last time I played you were still buying incremental stat increases for IP) are so, so good. I started a new account to re-teach myself how to play; my base mechanics are shit, but it's crazy how far just basic map awareness and a sense of your own mortality can go in the early levels. Blitz.gg is an incredible tool that I don't know how I ever played without.

    I think the MMR is catching up to me though, over the course of ~10-15 games I went from MVP every game to middle of the pack pretty quick. Probably I might as well transition back to my level 30 account at some point? Or is it worth just going the rest of the way (currently 13) for more practice?

    Might as well keep leveling up your new account, unless the old one has tons more champions unlocked. That way you won’t have to deal with the frustration of balancing your mmr on your old account.

    Steam, LoL: credeiki
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    IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    I think the MMR is catching up to me though, over the course of ~10-15 games I went from MVP every game to middle of the pack pretty quick. Probably I might as well transition back to my level 30 account at some point? Or is it worth just going the rest of the way (currently 13) for more practice?

    Depends on number of champs you have, I reckon. The freebies on new accounts are pretty good now from what I hear--I have no direct experience of this, however.

    Me elsewhere:
    Steam, various fora: Ivellius
    League of Legends: Doctor Ivellius
    Twitch, probably another place or two I forget: LPIvellius
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    GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    Just started playing this again for the first time since...before Summoner's Rift was completely overhauled? It's pretty great! Being able to queue for specific roles is amazing, and the rune changes (last time I played you were still buying incremental stat increases for IP) are so, so good. I started a new account to re-teach myself how to play; my base mechanics are shit, but it's crazy how far just basic map awareness and a sense of your own mortality can go in the early levels. Blitz.gg is an incredible tool that I don't know how I ever played without.

    I think the MMR is catching up to me though, over the course of ~10-15 games I went from MVP every game to middle of the pack pretty quick. Probably I might as well transition back to my level 30 account at some point? Or is it worth just going the rest of the way (currently 13) for more practice?

    Might as well keep leveling up your new account, unless the old one has tons more champions unlocked. That way you won’t have to deal with the frustration of balancing your mmr on your old account.

    Yeah I have ~100 on my old account and about 13 on the new one. Might be best just to suck it up getting raged at for a few hours.

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