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[MTG] Let is Snow

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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, these new double-sided cards bring up the question of how their cmc is calculated? Like, if I'm playing Tibalt, can Lurrus be my companion?

    CMC and all other characteristics are of the front face. You can play Tibalt in a Lurrus deck. Can't cast the Tibalt side from the yard though.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    All these double faced cards have a top side that is the default for the cards when they are in every zone except the battlefield/stack for the opposite side.

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  • Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    WotC has said they want to move away from "here is this cool world now we are destroying it" so this and the idea Kaldheim is oil-poisoned already both seem unlikely based on those statements.

    I think they might make an exception for a Norse mythology plane, since some kind of apocalypse scenario would naturally be built into the setting.

    It's hard to imagine them doing the same thing to Innistrad though, since that's such a huge cash cow for them. Then again, maybe after two visits to Innistrad, they've concluded that its storytelling potential is spent, so it's okay to sacrifice it to the larger narrative.
    (my actual assumption is that there will be 2 gods in each colour and then two "Snow" gods)

    I think the reason why there are two extra gods will be related to the narrative.

    Specifically, I think Esika is a former oldwalker who created Kaldheim. Then, after the Mending, she sacrificed her spark to become a god, just like Xenagos did.

    Then there's Tibalt, who is not a god at all, but is somehow successfully passing himself off as one. I like to imagine that conversation went something like this:

    Toralf: Shut up, Halvar! You're the worst member of this family!
    Halvar: Fuck you, Toralf! You're the whole reason this family's going to shit!
    Tibalt: Hello, brothers! It is I, Valki, your other brother who has always been here the whole time!
    Toralf: Shut up, Valki! You're the worst member of this family!
    Halvar: Don't talk to Valki that way, you asshole!
    Tibalt: (Nice, they're buying it!)

  • BreakfastPMBreakfastPM Registered User regular
    This card is my jam:
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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Tergrid is real fun. I want it for my Sen Triplets deck (that is entirely a "whats yours is mine" setup, it's all destruction, copying, and stealing)

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Tegrid looks really fun especially with the context of fabled passage

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Interesting that Tegrid shares Nicol Bolas's "torment" mechanic from Amonkhet

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    Tibalt's Trickery is far too random to be actually good.

    Nah.
    Give all colours counterspells so we can all play creature decks against Ugin.

    Not that I'd start with red though, with it having access to haste and being fast enough to race Ugin in b the first place.

    You don't know what you are talking about and need to find something about Magic you enjoy besides whinging about Ugin.

    We'll see if I can do that in two rotations time I guess.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Is there an Ugin card in standard? I decided to build a standard deck like three weeks ago and I've been playing a few games a day since. I have yet to see one.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2021
    Is there an Ugin card in standard? I decided to build a standard deck like three weeks ago and I've been playing a few games a day since. I have yet to see one.

    It's a 1-3x in a less popular version of the Temur Ramp deck, but most of those have switched to Obosh, and it's a 1-2x in some of the Doom Foretold decks.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Yeah Ugin's not very good in the current meta.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ugin is occasionally seen as a boardwipe for green ramp but otherwise he’s way too expensive for a card that doesn’t immediately win you the game.

    He is ever-present in brawl, though.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
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    harold

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Harald the Herald.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
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    harold

    real solid limited card at least

  • ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    If anyone wants to create a new OP go for it, otherwise I'll get to it during the national championship tonight.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Probably limited-only but 3-mana draw-one 3/2 with upside isn't a bad rate in constructed (see: Rogue Refiner). It could work if there's a deck for it, but it won't make a deck exist.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Is Koma actually good? I suspect Koma might actually be good tbh

    I've been thinking about it this evening and I think that as a payoff in a ramp deck it basically says "have an exile effect or a kill spell right now or be prepared to lose the game"

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Probably limited-only but 3-mana draw-one 3/2 with upside isn't a bad rate in constructed (see: Rogue Refiner). It could work if there's a deck for it, but it won't make a deck exist.

    it's a much worse atris for 1 less mana

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    koma dies to Divine Gambit how good can he be

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Is Koma actually good? I suspect Koma might actually be good tbh

    I've been thinking about it this evening and I think that as a payoff in a ramp deck it basically says "have an exile effect or a kill spell right now or be prepared to lose the game"

    Koma is uncounterable and immune to most standard removal after the next upkeep.

    So yeah, kinda good.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    admanb wrote: »
    Probably limited-only but 3-mana draw-one 3/2 with upside isn't a bad rate in constructed (see: Rogue Refiner). It could work if there's a deck for it, but it won't make a deck exist.

    it's a much worse atris for 1 less mana

    1 less mana is the biggest possible difference a card can have in the game.

    I'm def. not saying it's good but this comparison isn't.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Is Koma actually good? I suspect Koma might actually be good tbh

    I've been thinking about it this evening and I think that as a payoff in a ramp deck it basically says "have an exile effect or a kill spell right now or be prepared to lose the game"

    it's a much better tendershoot dryad in a meta where fast mana is viable, so yeah it probably sees play

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I kind of feel like if my opponent tapped out on turn 6 to play a Carnage Tyrant and I tapped out on turn 7 to play a Koma then I'd be relatively comfortable that I'm ahead on board

    And that's a pretty high standard

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Solar wrote: »
    I kind of feel like if my opponent tapped out on turn 6 to play a Carnage Tyrant and I tapped out on turn 7 to play a Koma then I'd be relatively comfortable that I'm ahead on board

    And that's a pretty high standard

    Carnage tyrant is so much easier to deal with in this meta and that’s kinda hilarious

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    admanb wrote: »
    Probably limited-only but 3-mana draw-one 3/2 with upside isn't a bad rate in constructed (see: Rogue Refiner). It could work if there's a deck for it, but it won't make a deck exist.

    it's a much worse atris for 1 less mana

    1 less mana is the biggest possible difference a card can have in the game.

    I'm def. not saying it's good but this comparison isn't.

    they're both 3/2s with menace that have a herald effect, atris' is just way better

    how is that not comparable?

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    The question with Koma is "is this card going to save me more than Genesis Ultimatum or Ugin". I think the answer is "probably not", but could absolutely see sideboarding it in as an anti-control piece for either control or ramp decks. If the shell lines up for bant ramp in place of Temur, then Koma can go in and Ultimatum can go out I suppose.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Wellll Carnage Tyrant is still immune to like, most removal

    But not Extinction Event or Shatter the Sky or whatever so yeah basically

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2021
    Carnage tyrant is immune to target removal, Koma is functionally immune to destroy effects after your opponent’s upkeep.

    Considering that one of the most popular decks around runs a decent chunk of deathtouch effects, Koma is way harder to deal with

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Not exile removal though which is relatively common at the moment (ECD, Extinction) but it leaves you with a 3/3 even then so

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Wellll Carnage Tyrant is still immune to like, most removal

    But not Extinction Event or Shatter the Sky or whatever so yeah basically

    carnage tyrant can't attack into a beast that gets buffed by henge

    it's just too slow of a card in the current meta

    now if it changes to a more control heavy one? it'll be good again

    koma has the benefit of being sticky and also generating more threats, but is probably too expensive to maindeck

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Not exile removal though which is relatively common at the moment (ECD, Extinction) but it leaves you with a 3/3 even then so

    I don’t see extinction event main board that much.

    And the white removal enchantment against a green deck likely running 4 of gemrazer?

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  • ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Wellll Carnage Tyrant is still immune to like, most removal

    But not Extinction Event or Shatter the Sky or whatever so yeah basically

    carnage tyrant can't attack into a beast that gets buffed by henge

    it's just too slow of a card in the current meta

    now if it changes to a more control heavy one? it'll be good again

    koma has the benefit of being sticky and also generating more threats, but is probably too expensive to maindeck

    Henge with Koma is what I am thinking for sure.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    That's a pretty good enchantment god dang

  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
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    is Kardur this plane's Surtr?

    yes, all my knowledge of Norse mythology does come from videogames, Neil Gaiman, and Marvel movies, why do you ask?

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    So hows this guys color identity work as a commander?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Solar wrote: »
    That's a pretty good enchantment god dang

    4 mana put a planes walker into play and then keep going is stupid good

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  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
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    is Kardur this plane's Surtr?

    yes, all my knowledge of Norse mythology does come from videogames, Neil Gaiman, and Marvel movies, why do you ask?

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    So hows this guys color identity work as a commander?

    I believe he's green, blue, and black since those colors appear on the front face of the card.

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