AbsalonLands of Always WinterRegistered Userregular
I am not too worried, we still have five-six weeks at a minimum. But I agree that a bunch of stuff is just dependent on time and grinding because getting 32 craftable watchstones is a slog, just as an example.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
How are you doing with ritual base types? I'm at 5 so far. Glad they lowered it to 9. 27 seems a bit much.
I am not too worried, we still have five-six weeks at a minimum. But I agree that a bunch of stuff is just dependent on time and grinding because getting 32 craftable watchstones is a slog, just as an example.
Apparently you can buy those, just checked and you can apparently get some for 3c. I might pick some up.
SaldonasSee you space cowboy...Registered Userregular
Two more months of ritual isn't enough? I've also not fought Sirus or the ten boss battle, but I've been slowly whittling away at the atlas and such. Overall I thought my progress was quite good for a casual player. The league is fun and rewards actually seem attainable without going HAM.
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Another deathless Oshabi is nice but the Forbidden Shako was not very valuable and the Infused Beachhead she dropped did not result in a valuable scroll. She did drop a Farric lure which might help me get to a Farrul encounter.
I have a whole slew of contracts and blueprints I need to run but even though they can be valuable I always feel a bit iffy about heists.
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I lost so much loot in Heist league by dying while trying to get out of a blueprint or regular heist that I just ignore the whole mechanic now, I don't care how much loot there is in there.
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I really wish I had paid more attention to the list of good atlas passives to take, and just skipped the Heist one I ended up taking.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
I lost so much loot in Heist league by dying while trying to get out of a blueprint or regular heist that I just ignore the whole mechanic now, I don't care how much loot there is in there.
They did make Heist less deadly this league. Also, since contract rarity doesn't actually affect the loot (just gives a small bonus to alert level), running a bunch of scoured lvl 83 contracts is now my go-to technique for getting that last 10% of xp to the next level, while still getting a pile of loot.
Protip: there are only three reasons to finish contracts: markers (also available from Rituals), reveals (only useful if you're doing blueprints, which are somewhat less common this league), and rogue xp (only useful if the rogue in question isn't at max level). Running into a contract, opening all the big chests, then running right back out again is a perfectly legitimate strategy. It doesn't have much in the way of risk to your xp or loot, and skips over the "unlock doors on the way out" part of Heist, which makes it a safe and fast way to convert a pile of contracts into a pile of loot.
I really wish I had paid more attention to the list of good atlas passives to take, and just skipped the Heist one I ended up taking.
They're all good. The conventional wisdom is to just pick the ones that give bonuses to the content you want to run. There are a few standouts like Diplomatic Escort, but there's been a rapid shift away from "here is the mathematically optimal way to earn currency", to "here are a bunch of cool options that you might find interesting". That being said, Orbs of Unmaking do drop, so it's possible for you to respec out of that node if you don't want Heist content.
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BrodyThe WatchThe First ShoreRegistered Userregular
I lost so much loot in Heist league by dying while trying to get out of a blueprint or regular heist that I just ignore the whole mechanic now, I don't care how much loot there is in there.
They did make Heist less deadly this league. Also, since contract rarity doesn't actually affect the loot (just gives a small bonus to alert level), running a bunch of scoured lvl 83 contracts is now my go-to technique for getting that last 10% of xp to the next level, while still getting a pile of loot.
Protip: there are only three reasons to finish contracts: markers (also available from Rituals), reveals (only useful if you're doing blueprints, which are somewhat less common this league), and rogue xp (only useful if the rogue in question isn't at max level). Running into a contract, opening all the big chests, then running right back out again is a perfectly legitimate strategy. It doesn't have much in the way of risk to your xp or loot, and skips over the "unlock doors on the way out" part of Heist, which makes it a safe and fast way to convert a pile of contracts into a pile of loot.
I really wish I had paid more attention to the list of good atlas passives to take, and just skipped the Heist one I ended up taking.
They're all good. The conventional wisdom is to just pick the ones that give bonuses to the content you want to run. There are a few standouts like Diplomatic Escort, but there's been a rapid shift away from "here is the mathematically optimal way to earn currency", to "here are a bunch of cool options that you might find interesting". That being said, Orbs of Unmaking do drop, so it's possible for you to respec out of that node if you don't want Heist content.
Sure, I'm just not a huge fan of running heist, so it feels wasted. But I can give them another try I guess.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
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I'm just annoyed by the trillions of green contracts I get that don't stack and don't go in the locker, and the trillions of orange contracts that aren't the twins that I need for the challenge.
Having skipped heist in heist, I find the heists fun, but not as interesting as progressing the new atlas content so they are piling up. Although with the advice about not bothering to trigger alert maybe I'll run a bunch of them.
Do the rogues get xp from doors and chests? I only ever noticed it on escape.
I havenβt bothered with it this league because grinding up their levels last time lasted well past my interest in heists.
They also sped that bit up. I'll note that you don't need to level up every skill for every rogue, either. Pick which rogue you want to use for each skill, and get them to level 4 (not 5) in that skill, and you're basically fine. You won't be able to do the level 5 contracts, but contracts drop like candy, so big deal. It's not like the level 5 contracts drop better loot.
I'm just annoyed by the trillions of green contracts I get that don't stack and don't go in the locker, and the trillions of orange contracts that aren't the twins that I need for the challenge.
Having skipped heist in heist, I find the heists fun, but not as interesting as progressing the new atlas content so they are piling up. Although with the advice about not bothering to trigger alert maybe I'll run a bunch of them.
I'll note that The Twins only drops if you've completed the quest contracts that lead to it.
And yes, Heist is less interesting than the new content. I only run it this league when I'm close to a levelup and want to play it safe for a bit, but as content it's fine.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
I got to the one where they kill the cat. Is that far enough... although maybe the correct path was to only do that one so I stop getting break the unbreakable over and over again.
I got to the one where they kill the cat. Is that far enough... although maybe the correct path was to only do that one so I stop getting break the unbreakable over and over again.
Man this league is nuts. Even people like me who don't overtly interact in money printing schemes has made bank. I bought myself a awakened multistrike today. And I still have several ex worth of c and other stuff that can get me moving back up.
Ive got a build that can do all the content almost as end geared as you can get (i just need a top end +3 minion unset ring and the uber expensive convoking wands at this point) and am still having fun with the league.
I know this is not everyones favorite style of poe but I find it much more fun that scrimping and saving. Being able to afford 6Ls on whatever build i would want at this point is how it should be I think.
I sold a couple of harvest crafts and it was oddly stressful. I was super afraid of accidentally using the wrong craft and bricking someone else's item.
Man this league is nuts. Even people like me who don't overtly interact in money printing schemes has made bank. I bought myself a awakened multistrike today. And I still have several ex worth of c and other stuff that can get me moving back up.
Ive got a build that can do all the content almost as end geared as you can get (i just need a top end +3 minion unset ring and the uber expensive convoking wands at this point) and am still having fun with the league.
I know this is not everyones favorite style of poe but I find it much more fun that scrimping and saving. Being able to afford 6Ls on whatever build i would want at this point is how it should be I think.
I'm jealous of your luck. I'm not having that experience heh.
Man this league is nuts. Even people like me who don't overtly interact in money printing schemes has made bank. I bought myself a awakened multistrike today. And I still have several ex worth of c and other stuff that can get me moving back up.
Ive got a build that can do all the content almost as end geared as you can get (i just need a top end +3 minion unset ring and the uber expensive convoking wands at this point) and am still having fun with the league.
I know this is not everyones favorite style of poe but I find it much more fun that scrimping and saving. Being able to afford 6Ls on whatever build i would want at this point is how it should be I think.
I'm jealous of your luck. I'm not having that experience heh.
That is the thing though you can setup your atlas to farm currency if you really want to and even I have done it. Be it mass harbingers for ancients in valdos or beast farms and sell. Someone I know just mass sold yellow beasts for 3c each for several ex.
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fRAWRstThe Seas CallThe Mad AnswerRegistered Userregular
alch and go will get you 2-3 ex per hour if you spend your time efficiently this league
low white/yellow map farming has never been as profitable since before conquerors atlas patch
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
How can I spend my time efficiently? I try to only run maps in valdo's for harbingers or one of the grove areas. Last 4 groves in a row have been WHY FIGHT PROGRESS who drops maybe a couple chaos in lures. Maybe I'm an outlier.
SaldonasSee you space cowboy...Registered Userregular
I've accepted that I just don't put in the time and effort the more affluent players are. Instead I've just focused on one decent built and continued to make incremental upgrades where I can afford and otherwise try to craft my own stuff. It's worked out pretty well thanks to the new atlas passives and harvest.
How can I spend my time efficiently? I try to only run maps in valdo's for harbingers or one of the grove areas. Last 4 groves in a row have been WHY FIGHT PROGRESS who drops maybe a couple chaos in lures. Maybe I'm an outlier.
run 15 maps an hour
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How can I spend my time efficiently? I try to only run maps in valdo's for harbingers or one of the grove areas. Last 4 groves in a row have been WHY FIGHT PROGRESS who drops maybe a couple chaos in lures. Maybe I'm an outlier.
How can I spend my time efficiently? I try to only run maps in valdo's for harbingers or one of the grove areas. Last 4 groves in a row have been WHY FIGHT PROGRESS who drops maybe a couple chaos in lures. Maybe I'm an outlier.
My first tip for high-end mapping is to not full-clear maps. That's a relic of old sustain rates. Instead, you should have goals when entering a map. For example: killing the harbingers and the boss. You don't need to stick your nose into every corner of the map to accomplish this; the boss is usually in an obvious location, the harbingers are usually simple to locate, and anything else interesting is on the minimap. If you reach the boss, and there's still more than 50 monsters remaining, that's fine. You're not optimizing for map value, but for time spent. Maps are cheap. Will you miss some content doing this? Yeah, but that doesn't really matter. There's more content in the next map. This can also include skipping some content (like Ritual, Abyss, Breach, or Heart of the Grove) because it takes a while and doesn't drop anything good.
My second tip is to know the value of items, and the best way to turn them into currency. The actual rewards for most content are in the form of, say, some splinters, a delirium orb, a cluster jewel, a stack of alteration orbs, or the like instead of actual chaos and ex. Those things can be worthwhile, but it doesn't feel like you're earning currency. Don't feel like you're not earning just because you don't have many actual exalt orbs in your currency tab.
I still do most things, except breaches. It helps break up the repetition a bit for me.
But itβs a good point, and the same reason you should jump to the next D3 rift after the boss. Anything youβd βmissβ on upcoming floors could just as easily be on the first floor of the next rift, so you might as well get more guardians/keys.
38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
That's the first I heard to try not full clearing maps, that will help a lot. I know I probably have a ton of currency tied up in Blueprints and such but even with buying the marks you still need to run things to get reveals not sure if its worth it. I've been skipping Blight because I am starting to get bored of it. Unless I'm in delirium and need the extra monster kills.
I have a bunch of delirium orbs I probably should try and sell.
I still do most things, except breaches. It helps break up the repetition a bit for me.
But itβs a good point, and the same reason you should jump to the next D3 rift after the boss. Anything youβd βmissβ on upcoming floors could just as easily be on the first floor of the next rift, so you might as well get more guardians/keys.
What I'll say is that, in the end, this is a game. Some people are running the canyon map all day, and only up until they reach the harbingers. This is a very...efficient setup, but it also sounds soul-numbing to me. If you like the content, that's a really good reason to run the content. Most stuff in PoE makes decent money, especially if the atlas tree is set up for it.
On a more philosophical level, there's two ways to view efficiency in PoE. There's the maximizing exalts/hour, but there's also maximizing game/hour. These overlap, but aren't the same. Having a dump tab and only sorting your loot once or twice a session helps with efficiency, but it does so by letting you run more maps/hour, and if you enjoy running maps more than sorting loot, that's a good thing even if maximizing exalts/hour isn't your goal. Not full-clearing maps is a component of most farming strategies, but it can also ensure you spend more time playing the bits of the game you enjoy instead of figuring out where the last three monster packs are hiding.
Even skipping content is fine. If you don't like blight, don't run it. Maps are not a scarce resource, and there's always something else around the corner. Even skipping the majority of content in a map is a reasonable strategy; map bosses have good drops, you get master missions, and progress towards Maven invitations and Sirus fights in high tiers. It's trivial to sustain maps once you have a good atlas bonus, and that's not even touching on non-map-based content like Delve or Heist.
Ive had luck yes. But I have also ground out some currency as well. Ive spent the whole league just doing what I felt like so I didnt get bored. Just dont skip rituals though. They are a fantastic source of solid currency.
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AbsalonLands of Always WinterRegistered Userregular
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Hoo boy, level 97 reached. Anything after that is absolutely overkill. Now I need to focus on challenges and if I die a bunch, so be it. Still have the Maven, Uber Elder and some other scary stuff left.
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Apparently you can buy those, just checked and you can apparently get some for 3c. I might pick some up.
The goal was always 9 items. The difference is that they made the lower tier items count.
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Maybe I should get more sleep.
I have a whole slew of contracts and blueprints I need to run but even though they can be valuable I always feel a bit iffy about heists.
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They did make Heist less deadly this league. Also, since contract rarity doesn't actually affect the loot (just gives a small bonus to alert level), running a bunch of scoured lvl 83 contracts is now my go-to technique for getting that last 10% of xp to the next level, while still getting a pile of loot.
Protip: there are only three reasons to finish contracts: markers (also available from Rituals), reveals (only useful if you're doing blueprints, which are somewhat less common this league), and rogue xp (only useful if the rogue in question isn't at max level). Running into a contract, opening all the big chests, then running right back out again is a perfectly legitimate strategy. It doesn't have much in the way of risk to your xp or loot, and skips over the "unlock doors on the way out" part of Heist, which makes it a safe and fast way to convert a pile of contracts into a pile of loot.
EDIT: They're all good. The conventional wisdom is to just pick the ones that give bonuses to the content you want to run. There are a few standouts like Diplomatic Escort, but there's been a rapid shift away from "here is the mathematically optimal way to earn currency", to "here are a bunch of cool options that you might find interesting". That being said, Orbs of Unmaking do drop, so it's possible for you to respec out of that node if you don't want Heist content.
Sure, I'm just not a huge fan of running heist, so it feels wasted. But I can give them another try I guess.
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Having skipped heist in heist, I find the heists fun, but not as interesting as progressing the new atlas content so they are piling up. Although with the advice about not bothering to trigger alert maybe I'll run a bunch of them.
I havenβt bothered with it this league because grinding up their levels last time lasted well past my interest in heists.
They also sped that bit up. I'll note that you don't need to level up every skill for every rogue, either. Pick which rogue you want to use for each skill, and get them to level 4 (not 5) in that skill, and you're basically fine. You won't be able to do the level 5 contracts, but contracts drop like candy, so big deal. It's not like the level 5 contracts drop better loot.
I'll note that The Twins only drops if you've completed the quest contracts that lead to it.
And yes, Heist is less interesting than the new content. I only run it this league when I'm close to a levelup and want to play it safe for a bit, but as content it's fine.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kurai,_the_Administrator Looks like it.
thank mr ritual.
From a sealed deck or direct?
How much tribute does one go for direct?
I guess people can get full mirrors off of ritual too? Crazy.
Ive got a build that can do all the content almost as end geared as you can get (i just need a top end +3 minion unset ring and the uber expensive convoking wands at this point) and am still having fun with the league.
I know this is not everyones favorite style of poe but I find it much more fun that scrimping and saving. Being able to afford 6Ls on whatever build i would want at this point is how it should be I think.
I'm jealous of your luck. I'm not having that experience heh.
That is the thing though you can setup your atlas to farm currency if you really want to and even I have done it. Be it mass harbingers for ancients in valdos or beast farms and sell. Someone I know just mass sold yellow beasts for 3c each for several ex.
low white/yellow map farming has never been as profitable since before conquerors atlas patch
Switch: SW-1493-0062-4053
run 15 maps an hour
*urge to vomit intensifies*
My first tip for high-end mapping is to not full-clear maps. That's a relic of old sustain rates. Instead, you should have goals when entering a map. For example: killing the harbingers and the boss. You don't need to stick your nose into every corner of the map to accomplish this; the boss is usually in an obvious location, the harbingers are usually simple to locate, and anything else interesting is on the minimap. If you reach the boss, and there's still more than 50 monsters remaining, that's fine. You're not optimizing for map value, but for time spent. Maps are cheap. Will you miss some content doing this? Yeah, but that doesn't really matter. There's more content in the next map. This can also include skipping some content (like Ritual, Abyss, Breach, or Heart of the Grove) because it takes a while and doesn't drop anything good.
My second tip is to know the value of items, and the best way to turn them into currency. The actual rewards for most content are in the form of, say, some splinters, a delirium orb, a cluster jewel, a stack of alteration orbs, or the like instead of actual chaos and ex. Those things can be worthwhile, but it doesn't feel like you're earning currency. Don't feel like you're not earning just because you don't have many actual exalt orbs in your currency tab.
But itβs a good point, and the same reason you should jump to the next D3 rift after the boss. Anything youβd βmissβ on upcoming floors could just as easily be on the first floor of the next rift, so you might as well get more guardians/keys.
I have a bunch of delirium orbs I probably should try and sell.
What I'll say is that, in the end, this is a game. Some people are running the canyon map all day, and only up until they reach the harbingers. This is a very...efficient setup, but it also sounds soul-numbing to me. If you like the content, that's a really good reason to run the content. Most stuff in PoE makes decent money, especially if the atlas tree is set up for it.
On a more philosophical level, there's two ways to view efficiency in PoE. There's the maximizing exalts/hour, but there's also maximizing game/hour. These overlap, but aren't the same. Having a dump tab and only sorting your loot once or twice a session helps with efficiency, but it does so by letting you run more maps/hour, and if you enjoy running maps more than sorting loot, that's a good thing even if maximizing exalts/hour isn't your goal. Not full-clearing maps is a component of most farming strategies, but it can also ensure you spend more time playing the bits of the game you enjoy instead of figuring out where the last three monster packs are hiding.
Even skipping content is fine. If you don't like blight, don't run it. Maps are not a scarce resource, and there's always something else around the corner. Even skipping the majority of content in a map is a reasonable strategy; map bosses have good drops, you get master missions, and progress towards Maven invitations and Sirus fights in high tiers. It's trivial to sustain maps once you have a good atlas bonus, and that's not even touching on non-map-based content like Delve or Heist.
Edit: whoops, very sleepy.