I use Linkedin for my extended resume. I don't plan on ever changing jobs ever again. But when I was looking, I usually left one or two of my older jobs off the application, depending on what experience I wanted to emphasize. It's also nice to see dates for certain thing (like when I moved- I know which job I had where). Also, stalking* people from my old job to see who left, and where they went. (*People I was friendly with, and wanted better things for, but didn't really keep in touch with)
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Person A sends email to person B that oversees person A that they sent the email out (not via mass email)
Person B, replying with a CC to the mass email group "so that went to everyone?"
I think some people just really want to watch the world burn
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#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
I have another interview at a second place today. I'm basically taking this interview as practice because it doesn't pay well enough for the long commute but whatever.
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
I'd say that's totally valid. Hell, as a man, I was even doing things like that back ten years ago now. I particularly remember the revelation that I was always referring to all the under 40 women in my workplace as "girls." I might say something like, "hey did you meet that girl they hired in the financial office?" I was being incredibly demeaning without even thinking about what I said.
Luckily I became more aware of it and made a conscious effort to stop, but I'm not the least bit surprised there are a lot of men who never had that revelation.
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"Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
I (CIS white male) wouldn't worry about it:it isn't done on purpose and it doesn't hurt your career prospects. It'd be different if they were calling you a 'lady' to your face or bully you for having a "girls job" or whatever. To me it is just a benign assumption about the kind of job you have.
My school has been making a concerted effort to stop saying "guys" when addressing a group of people.
Folks gets used almost exclusively. Everything else is either too formal or too dismissive. "People" is kinda weird because it can carry connotations so "folks" it is.
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
I would definitely find it annoying and definitely sympathize with the last bit as that's also where I am. But the kind of gendered/sexist assumptions about secretaries that cause you to get lumped in with the "ladies" also tend to lead to other stuff that they have to deal with all the time, so it might be something that bothers the rest of the team too.
Also being in the habit of addressing a large group of people by a single gendered term might be annoying for cis people, but would probably be significantly worse for trans people who have to deal with that and worse in other contexts as well, so they should switch to a neutral term like people, team, etc.
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
I (CIS white male) wouldn't worry about it:it isn't done on purpose and it doesn't hurt your career prospects. It'd be different if they were calling you a 'lady' to your face or bully you for having a "girls job" or whatever. To me it is just a benign assumption about the kind of job you have.
this is what i keep landing on; it's just thoughtless ignorance, not outright antagonism.
still sticks in my craw tho mainly because for cri-yi people should just know better
It's still a micro aggression. Micro aggressions are often subconscious so that only partially excuses it. Admittedly I live in liberal Massachusetts so I had conversations with women friends who gently educated me on how demeaning I was being.
"Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
Ya’ll and Folks are my two imformal adresses. If im addressing formally its either *company* or *department* team, like “accounting team, i need help...”
Ya’ll and Folks are my two imformal adresses. If im addressing formally its either *company* or *department* team, like “accounting team, i need help...”
I like to use "Assholes" - it's not gender-specific.
It's definitely better than "fuckers" because some people are asexual.
Would fucks be alright? As in, "listen here you fucks!"?
Also shits.
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#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
I personally wouldn't stand for it because it is reinforcing the idea that the secretarial arts is women's work. I don't see a team of sales people where all but one presents female ever being called "ladies" collectively.
If you have an HR department just shoot them an email saying "my whole group gets called "ladies" and it bums me out"
I personally wouldn't stand for it because it is reinforcing the idea that the secretarial arts is women's work. I don't see a team of sales people where all but one presents female ever being called "ladies" collectively.
If you have an HR department just shoot them an email saying "my whole group gets called "ladies" and it bums me out"
Nah, it's a drop in the bucket compared to what women deal with every day and have been doing for centuries plus it would make me VERY unpopular very quickly.
I personally wouldn't stand for it because it is reinforcing the idea that the secretarial arts is women's work. I don't see a team of sales people where all but one presents female ever being called "ladies" collectively.
If you have an HR department just shoot them an email saying "my whole group gets called "ladies" and it bums me out"
Careful now, if Magic Pink works for Google she might be advised to take a week off for "mental health."
"Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
I personally wouldn't stand for it because it is reinforcing the idea that the secretarial arts is women's work. I don't see a team of sales people where all but one presents female ever being called "ladies" collectively.
If you have an HR department just shoot them an email saying "my whole group gets called "ladies" and it bums me out"
Careful now, if Magic Pink works for Google she might be advised to take a week off for "mental health."
*eye twitch*
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i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
You should discreetly ask some of the women secretaries what they think. It's absolutely implying "this is women's work", imo.
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
You should discreetly ask some of the women secretaries what they think. It's absolutely implying "this is women's work", imo.
It's the other women secretaries that are doing it. Sorry, that wasn't clear.
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
You should discreetly ask some of the women secretaries what they think. It's absolutely implying "this is women's work", imo.
It's the other women secretaries that are doing it. Sorry, that wasn't clear.
Oh well then they should absolutely be using a more formal term like "bitches".
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
You should discreetly ask some of the women secretaries what they think. It's absolutely implying "this is women's work", imo.
It's the other women secretaries that are doing it. Sorry, that wasn't clear.
Oh well then they should absolutely be using a more formal term like "bitches".
Today is one of those days. I had a meeting at 9:30, a meeting at 10, and now a meeting in 15 minutes, which rolls into lunch, then after lunch, 2 more meetings!
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
You should discreetly ask some of the women secretaries what they think. It's absolutely implying "this is women's work", imo.
It's the other women secretaries that are doing it. Sorry, that wasn't clear.
Oh well then they should absolutely be using a more formal term like "bitches".
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
You should discreetly ask some of the women secretaries what they think. It's absolutely implying "this is women's work", imo.
It's the other women secretaries that are doing it. Sorry, that wasn't clear.
ahh
well then I think it's internalized sexism but also not necessarily your place to get all huffy about
Called up a subscriber today at like, half four and was like, hey I hear you've been having problems with the alerts you have set up for staff on the site
Yeah well I set them up to only provide alerts when we get a publication within these parts of the trust, but they are getting them whenever a story is published anywhere in the trust!
Okay let me look at these... okay so the alerts are basically searches by any other name, so you create a search and then you turn that into a saved alert... (it is at this point that I realise that the person has in fact searched for the entire trust, and then named the alert the specific service within it... which of course doesn't actually refine the search at all, cos to do that you need to click on the "refine" button...)
Yeah so I think I can see what the issue is, what you need to do is... (it is at this point that the nice, tired, older person in the trust who has been gamely dealing with this while also trying to help manage patient experience during the rona pandemic looks at me with a look of "okay I am going to try to learn this, and I will stay late after work to do it, but I might struggle") ...actually you know what, I'll just do it myself. It's no trouble at all. I'll do them all, and send you screenshots once they are done with an explanation, and you can have a look at them as examples and you give me a call if you still don't understand, we can go through it then, you get yourself off
Sometimes you just got to do it for em I guess
Sometimes it's just easier and better for everyone involved to just have the expert do it yeah.
Unrelated but I've never heard half four before, is that a shortened form of half past four? That seems most likely but I suppose it could also be halfway to four, which could be 3:30 or 2:00 I suppose.
I'm very glad that I have a OneNote with all the details from my weekly one-on-one's with my boss, because now I get to take this email where she rather pointedly asked me why I was doing what I was doing, and suplex her into the table with the fact that she told me to do it five weeks ago.
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Ya’ll and Folks are my two imformal adresses. If im addressing formally its either *company* or *department* team, like “accounting team, i need help...”
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My career is far removed from my education
Person A sends email to person B that oversees person A that they sent the email out (not via mass email)
Person B, replying with a CC to the mass email group "so that went to everyone?"
I think some people just really want to watch the world burn
I'm taking all opportunities at this point.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
i'm a secretary in a very large corporation. there's a lot of secretaries and all but 3 of us are women. I repeatedly get emails saying "Ladies I need help with" and am in meetings where the host starts by saying "Okay, ladies we need" and it kind of bugs me but should it? I mean I keep going back to oh does the white male not like the tiny bit of sexism he's finally exposed to ya whiney shit head and then i feel like a shmoe.
Luckily I became more aware of it and made a conscious effort to stop, but I'm not the least bit surprised there are a lot of men who never had that revelation.
I (CIS white male) wouldn't worry about it:it isn't done on purpose and it doesn't hurt your career prospects. It'd be different if they were calling you a 'lady' to your face or bully you for having a "girls job" or whatever. To me it is just a benign assumption about the kind of job you have.
Folks gets used almost exclusively. Everything else is either too formal or too dismissive. "People" is kinda weird because it can carry connotations so "folks" it is.
I would definitely find it annoying and definitely sympathize with the last bit as that's also where I am. But the kind of gendered/sexist assumptions about secretaries that cause you to get lumped in with the "ladies" also tend to lead to other stuff that they have to deal with all the time, so it might be something that bothers the rest of the team too.
Also being in the habit of addressing a large group of people by a single gendered term might be annoying for cis people, but would probably be significantly worse for trans people who have to deal with that and worse in other contexts as well, so they should switch to a neutral term like people, team, etc.
It's definitely better than "fuckers" because some people are asexual.
It's really a champion of a word.
this is what i keep landing on; it's just thoughtless ignorance, not outright antagonism.
still sticks in my craw tho mainly because for cri-yi people should just know better
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i do this too and also "yo nerds"
Would fucks be alright? As in, "listen here you fucks!"?
Also shits.
If you have an HR department just shoot them an email saying "my whole group gets called "ladies" and it bums me out"
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Technically not accurate if you have anyone born from IVF in the crowd.
"Hey Chucklefucks, I need last month's numbers"
Nah, it's a drop in the bucket compared to what women deal with every day and have been doing for centuries plus it would make me VERY unpopular very quickly.
I just need to MAN UP obviously.
Careful now, if Magic Pink works for Google she might be advised to take a week off for "mental health."
*eye twitch*
You should discreetly ask some of the women secretaries what they think. It's absolutely implying "this is women's work", imo.
It's the other women secretaries that are doing it. Sorry, that wasn't clear.
Oh well then they should absolutely be using a more formal term like "bitches".
omg
I'd like to get some actual work done.
Hidden camera footage of the morning meetings.
(not necessarily safe for work)
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well then I think it's internalized sexism but also not necessarily your place to get all huffy about
Sometimes it's just easier and better for everyone involved to just have the expert do it yeah.
Unrelated but I've never heard half four before, is that a shortened form of half past four? That seems most likely but I suppose it could also be halfway to four, which could be 3:30 or 2:00 I suppose.