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We Bid A Fond Farewell To The "Rush Limbaugh Died" Thread, Not Him

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  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    margaret thatcher, a UK politician so vile that even people outside the UK know about her

    yeah like, I don't even know specifically why she's so hated, but I sure do know that she's extremely hated!

    How much time do you have

    I'm American, I'm pretty well set on politicians that make me want to believe hell exists, thank you very much

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    I'm German, and even I've heard

    "thatcher, thatcher, milk snatcher"

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    are there people in the UK that still like her? because we've got them over here

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    edited April 8
    Jars wrote: »
    are there people in the UK that still like her? because we've got them over here

    Any british person can feel free to correct me but my impression is that she's reagan-esque in that she is either pure evil or god's gift to humanity depending on which perception of reality you subscribe to

    Except non-conservative british people seem way less hesitant to badmouth her than say, democrats are to badmouth reagan

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    I, for one, and pretty open about reagen being a traitor to our nation. I don't know if thatcher ever pulled anything like that

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    FUCK reagan

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    They made that Iron Lady movie to lionize her just a couple years ago.,

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    This doesn’t even touch the racist pandering to claw back votes from the National Front

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Iron Lady youtube movie scenes are just puzzling out of context

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    are there people in the UK that still like her? because we've got them over here

    Any british person can feel free to correct me but my impression is that she's reagan-esque in that she is either pure evil or god's gift to humanity depending on which perception of reality you subscribe to

    Except non-conservative british people seem way less hesitant to badmouth her than say, democrats are to badmouth reagan

    Well she had girl power

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular

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    Like, I can't imagine a panel of comedians on tv joking about throwing a party at reagan's funeral, or a news station airing a person saying they wish they could jab a stake on reagan's heart to make sure he couldn't come back

    We absolutely have people that feel that way (I'm one of them!) but it's not a position that gets represented in the media even slightly. Instead you have democrats saying "actually we're basically just reagan except for maybe one or two social positions"

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    one time I was at a bar and my friend introduced me to someone who came over. He had an English accent so I drunkenly exclaimed

    "so fuck Margaret Thatcher, tho." and he just smiled and nodded.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Like, I can't imagine a panel of comedians on tv joking about throwing a party at reagan's funeral, or a news station airing a person saying they wish they could jab a stake on reagan's heart to make sure he couldn't come back

    We absolutely have people that feel that way (I'm one of them!) but it's not a position that gets represented in the media even slightly. Instead you have democrats saying "actually we're basically just reagan except for maybe one or two social positions"

    Probably because anyone who would make those jokes would be fucking blackbagged by the Secret Service? Might have something to do with it.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Like, I can't imagine a panel of comedians on tv joking about throwing a party at reagan's funeral, or a news station airing a person saying they wish they could jab a stake on reagan's heart to make sure he couldn't come back

    We absolutely have people that feel that way (I'm one of them!) but it's not a position that gets represented in the media even slightly. Instead you have democrats saying "actually we're basically just reagan except for maybe one or two social positions"

    I think Thatcher was a controversial leader even in the 80s/90s whereas Reagan was almost unilaterally popular until very, very recently.

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    People definitely hated Reagan at the time too. Or at least my father and much of my extended family. Just somehow post office and especially post death a weird, he was beloved by all and the republican republicans aspire to be narrative was allowed to take hold and throttle political discussion.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    akajaybay wrote: »
    People definitely hated Reagan at the time too. Or at least my father and much of my extended family. Just somehow post office and especially post death a weird, he was beloved by all and the republican republicans aspire to be narrative was allowed to take hold and throttle political discussion.

    I'm thinking of the 525 -13 Electoral College map.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    The blunt answer for "Why are Democrats afraid to criticize Reagan" is that Reagan is responsible for one of the biggest Democrat losses in history. He fucking obliterated Mondale, he only lost Washington DC and Mondale's home state. Put the fear of god in them.

    He also had a number of victories that looked very effective in the short term. We know that Reaganomics is a farce, but it had enough short-term gains compared to the economic stagnation that it looked like it worked at the time. He got to claim that he ended the Cold War. He continued the War on Drugs, which people loved, because they HATED black people. And he successfully got a bunch of queers killed because of his inaction on AIDS, which was also very popular.

    He became the figurehead of Conservatism, and because the Democratic Party really really wants Conservatives to vote for them, they suck him off.

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  • JedocJedoc Justice. Mercy. Duty. That sort of thing.Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    If you're looking at approval ratings, Reagan was double-digits behind George H.W. and Clinton in both average approval and peak approval. What he had was a historically unprecedented divide where the whole entire Establishment loved his ass and most of the people who hated him came pre-disenfranchised.

    Anyway, I'm reading a real good book about the arms race, and the extent to which every other world leader thought he was an incompetent boob is hysterical.

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    I remember being confused by the Thatcher stuff as a kid because we had a local politician named Margaret Thratcher and for a long time I was confused why so many people cared about a Yellowknife mayor

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    Yeah I don't really know what Thatcher's voting record looked like. Probably with that much open spite in media it was much tighter.
    Reagan wins relection by about as far a margin as you can get, but you still have 38 million folks voting no thanks to more of that. The electoral college always makes thing look more severe. But even by popular vote it was not remotely close. The dissenting opinions on Reagan though were abnormally squashed/not represented in the aftermath, and his sort of political deification.
    I agree with the gnome's assessment. Nothing beats electability in US politics, your principles don't mean much if you don't get the job etc. Barf.

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  • I ZimbraI Zimbra Worst song, played on ugliest guitar Registered User regular


    Daily Beast reporter

    Pro tip: do not put your crimes in the memo line of your venmo transactions for your crimes.

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  • JedocJedoc Justice. Mercy. Duty. That sort of thing.Registered User regular
    Counterpoint: put crimes in all the memo lines when you're paying your friends back for lunch, make the filth apply some critical thinking skills.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    i put nonsense notes for every venmo transaction and i don't even use it for crime

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    i put nonsense notes for every venmo transaction and i don't even use it for crime

    Why not you coward

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  • PeenPeen tw1tch0rz occasionallyRegistered User regular
    I Zimbra wrote: »


    Daily Beast reporter

    Pro tip: do not put your crimes in the memo line of your venmo transactions for your crimes.

    I shouldn't be surprised by how incredibly fucking stupid these incredibly fucking stupid people are and yet here we are, yet again.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Counterpoint: put crimes in all the memo lines when you're paying your friends back for lunch, make the filth apply some critical thinking skills.

    Memo: Don't take notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    I assume the reason people are able to be more openly insulting towards Thatcher over Reagan has at least a little to do with how Thatcher was a woman wielding power as opposed to Reagan who was a man. They both deserve the derision, mind you, people just can't get on a powerful man for being forceful and ruthless, because that's seen as a positive trait in white men. In women it makes them an angry, miserable bitch. With Reagan people feel like they have to cite political reasons to hate him so they either stay out of it or skip straight to ableism about his obvious dementia.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I assume the reason people are able to be more openly insulting towards Thatcher over Reagan has at least a little to do with how Thatcher was a woman wielding power as opposed to Reagan who was a man. They both deserve the derision, mind you, people just can't get on a powerful man for being forceful and ruthless, because that's seen as a positive trait in white men. In women it makes them an angry, miserable bitch. With Reagan people feel like they have to cite political reasons to hate him so they either stay out of it or skip straight to ableism about his obvious dementia.

    Oh absolutely there is a gender dynamic going on, with Thatcher having the reputation as cold whereas Reagan was a lovable goof and they both had nearly identical politics and horrible shit.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    i do want to emphasize that ronald reagan is also in hell

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    My old boss was the showrunner on Leverage, and he is absolutely steamed about how hard he has to try to make villains look sophisticated and smart when in reality they're paying underage sex workers via public venmo, using government credit cards

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  • LabelLabel Registered User regular
    As I figure it, much of our major institutional media are in the tank for the conservatives and have been for decades. I don't think they know how not to be. The people telling everyone the media is against the conservatives are those same conservatives. I make a point of not taking anything the conservative movement says at face value, and I see no reason to start believing their statements about the media now.

    Reagan is lauded, because most of the people publishing that political conversation have always been on his side.



    I could be wrong though, there's a lot of history I didn't see.

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    The only shitty thing about Thatcher, Reagan, and Limbaugh being dead is that they can't die again

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    FUCK reagan

    I posted this in a literal spurt of rage caused by invoking his name

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  • EvilCakeEvilCake Richmond VARegistered User regular
    The only shitty thing about Thatcher, Reagan, and Limbaugh being dead is that they can't die again

    no it is good that they will stay dead forever. 1 death is nice actually

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  • LucedesLucedes keeps happening for some reason Registered User regular
    FUCK Reagan

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    EvilCake wrote: »
    The only shitty thing about Thatcher, Reagan, and Limbaugh being dead is that they can't die again

    no it is good that they will stay dead forever. 1 death is nice actually

    Yeah I don't care how they feel to make them suffer further. I'm just glad they're gone.

    They can't feel anything anyway, because they're dead as fuck.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    The only good thing to come of Ronald Reagan's existence is that I saw a City of Villains character named Ronald Raygun and he was a man in a suit with dark hair who used a raygun.

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  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I assume the reason people are able to be more openly insulting towards Thatcher over Reagan has at least a little to do with how Thatcher was a woman wielding power as opposed to Reagan who was a man. They both deserve the derision, mind you, people just can't get on a powerful man for being forceful and ruthless, because that's seen as a positive trait in white men. In women it makes them an angry, miserable bitch. With Reagan people feel like they have to cite political reasons to hate him so they either stay out of it or skip straight to ableism about his obvious dementia.

    While that is no doubt true, I think it could also come down to the concentration, so to speak, of Thatcher's effect. Her policies made a lot of money for Londoners, while completely destroying the economies of Scotland and the north of England.

    Reagan's hate is more spread out and so has to live with pushback. If you opine "Fuck Thatcher" up north everyone just nods. So it snowballs, and you don't even think about the possibility that morons might disagree, which emboldens you to casually say it whenever, wherever.

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