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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    I think Cheney's ousted via primary. Her state's GOP voted to censure her and they will cut her off their funding when campaigning starts.

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    CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    I think Cheney's ousted via primary. Her state's GOP voted to censure her and they will cut her off their funding when campaigning starts.

    I hope she calls Murkowski and figures out how to win anyway.

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    MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    I think Cheney's ousted via primary. Her state's GOP voted to censure her and they will cut her off their funding when campaigning starts.

    Could be quite contentious if the reports that her donors are sticking with her over those who oppose her.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/05/liz-cheneys-top-donors-stand-with-her-despite-gop-push-to-oust-her-from-house-leadership.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

    Of course, I don't trust that's an ironclad agreement. But she might not be as reliant on the GOP as others.

    Or, she or they could capitulate, and it's QOP indefinitely into the future.

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    RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    Wyoming seems like it would be appallingly cheap place to run a campaign in, which means it's be cheap to fund a usurper but also that Cheney probably has zero issue getting as much money as she needs to run her own campaign party money or not.

    Her father made a lot of war criminals super rich and they're loaded to boot.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    You still have an R by your name you're still part of the problem

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    The Right Wing Media Demagoguery machine is very effective especially when aimed at women. If it doesn't let up, eventually she will be suspected of serial child murder by enough primary voters to send her home.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Like Murkowski Cheney is basically political royalty in her own state. she'll be tough to dislodge regardless.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Like Murkowski Cheney is basically political royalty in her own state. she'll be tough to dislodge regardless.

    I dunno it’s getting crazy, Romney also isn’t as safe in Utah anymore either

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Wyoming has an Open Primary, and the House Seat is At-Large. So she has less to be concerned about regarding the Party militants. Not nothing to be worried about, mind you. Just less. Within the caucus itself the main thing is whether they can stop tripping over their own insanity to rally around someone to oust her. Which is at best a 50/50 chance.

    It's a fairly frightening prospect to watch, given there are no guarantees in elections.

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    I'm not so sure; Back in 2012 we all thought it was going to be christie or jeb because that's what the tealeaves were telling us, and in 2005 It was easy to declare hillary.

    And while the base might love trump for being america's Id, it's entirely possible that between his creditors and criminal procedings he simply isn't going to be in a position to run (and I seriously doubt the donor class will back him for a third run).

    As such Liz might very well come out of this as being one of the strongest republicans in the party if she can whether the storm coming her way.

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    MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Here's the thing; he might not be in a position to. Deutche bank is going to be looking for money he can't exactly cough up without selling off a pile of his assets and SDNY is coming for him. Further the donor class took it in the pants last time trump was around and they're not going to be too eager to back him for another 4 years given the sheer volume of bullshit that occured under his watch.

    Hence why Liz could potentially be ridiculously strong if she successfully weathers this shit storm.

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    silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Have there been any high profile committee hearings that anyone's followed? I haven't heard much on the House or Senate front, but it might just be boring quiet competent government running in the background.

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Especially if he's able to leverage getting his Twitter back from a run

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    Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Hell, with what’s going on with Liz Cheney I’m honestly surprised he isn’t trying to get them to make him speaker of the house in if they win in ‘22 right now.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    I'll buy into this Deutche Bank calling in his loans shit I've been hearing about for 5 years when it actually happens. Until then, I am just going to assume he'll be eating $200 burnt steaks with ketchup until the day he finally dies.

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    MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Hell, with what’s going on with Liz Cheney I’m honestly surprised he isn’t trying to get them to make him speaker of the house in if they win in ‘22 right now.

    Well that’s because he doesn’t have the first clue that’s a thing they could do.

    The man spent 4 years in office and didn’t learn shit about how government actually functions.

    Nobody tell him about the Speaker thing...

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Trump would be way too incursions to make an effective Speaker. He would just turn it into a complete sideshow for two years.

    Which, honestly, probably isn't that far off from McCarthy being Speaker.

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    Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Hell, with what’s going on with Liz Cheney I’m honestly surprised he isn’t trying to get them to make him speaker of the house in if they win in ‘22 right now.

    Well that’s because he doesn’t have the first clue that’s a thing they could do.

    The man spent 4 years in office and didn’t learn shit about how government actually functions.

    Nobody tell him about the Speaker thing...

    Bannon apparently figured it out and has mentioned it as a thing. No idea if Trump actually pays attention to Bannon anymore though.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Here's the thing; he might not be in a position to. Deutche bank is going to be looking for money he can't exactly cough up without selling off a pile of his assets and SDNY is coming for him. Further the donor class took it in the pants last time trump was around and they're not going to be too eager to back him for another 4 years given the sheer volume of bullshit that occured under his watch.

    Hence why Liz could potentially be ridiculously strong if she successfully weathers this shit storm.

    the bank isn't going to do anything to him, SDNY isn't going to do anything that has much meaning to him, and he doesn't need 'the donor class' because he has the media at his beck and call and 74,216,154 morons who will do whatever he says

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    moniker wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

    The issue there is that the GOP is currently undergoing heavy voter suppression efforts to try and stave off that.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

    The issue there is that the GOP is currently undergoing heavy voter suppression efforts to try and stave off that.

    yes they know what they're doing

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    I'll buy into this Deutche Bank calling in his loans shit I've been hearing about for 5 years when it actually happens. Until then, I am just going to assume he'll be eating $200 burnt steaks with ketchup until the day he finally dies.

    Deutche Bank has been sitting around waiting for trump to pay them off for an inordinately long time (likely due to russian influence) but all signs point to them wanting to be paid sometime in 2022 which would cripple trump at the financial level.
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Here's the thing; he might not be in a position to. Deutche bank is going to be looking for money he can't exactly cough up without selling off a pile of his assets and SDNY is coming for him. Further the donor class took it in the pants last time trump was around and they're not going to be too eager to back him for another 4 years given the sheer volume of bullshit that occured under his watch.

    Hence why Liz could potentially be ridiculously strong if she successfully weathers this shit storm.

    the bank isn't going to do anything to him, SDNY isn't going to do anything that has much meaning to him, and he doesn't need 'the donor class' because he has the media at his beck and call and 74,216,154 morons who will do whatever he says

    Mind loaning me your crystal ball? I'd love to use it for the lottery.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    "Rich man isnt going to suffer consequences" might be a guess but its a reliable one.

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    "Rich man isnt going to suffer consequences" might be a guess but its a reliable one.

    A guess which isn't particularly good; Epstien, Ghislane and stone were all loaded and all ate shit with only Stone getting off because Trump willed it. If the SDNY goes after trump there isn't going to be anyone to bail his saggy orange ass out.

    So again: I'm not convinced that trump is going to skate away on this and neither is he given how he abandoned his new york heritage to try and evade the state attorneys.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    We really don't need to be talking about Trump running for another goddamn election in this thread right now. Or anywhere else.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    I'll buy into this Deutche Bank calling in his loans shit I've been hearing about for 5 years when it actually happens. Until then, I am just going to assume he'll be eating $200 burnt steaks with ketchup until the day he finally dies.

    Deutche Bank has been sitting around waiting for trump to pay them off for an inordinately long time (likely due to russian influence) but all signs point to them wanting to be paid sometime in 2022 which would cripple trump at the financial level.
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Here's the thing; he might not be in a position to. Deutche bank is going to be looking for money he can't exactly cough up without selling off a pile of his assets and SDNY is coming for him. Further the donor class took it in the pants last time trump was around and they're not going to be too eager to back him for another 4 years given the sheer volume of bullshit that occured under his watch.

    Hence why Liz could potentially be ridiculously strong if she successfully weathers this shit storm.

    the bank isn't going to do anything to him, SDNY isn't going to do anything that has much meaning to him, and he doesn't need 'the donor class' because he has the media at his beck and call and 74,216,154 morons who will do whatever he says

    Mind loaning me your crystal ball? I'd love to use it for the lottery.

    no crystal ball needed

    just look at the rest of trumps life

    he can't not fail but also can't lose. /shrug

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Like, it's possible he might find out after all this fuckery, but being skeptical is not exactly unreasonable

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

    The issue there is that the GOP is currently undergoing heavy voter suppression efforts to try and stave off that.

    They aren't empowered to do that in every State that is a reasonable pickup chance. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina all have Democratic Governors. Meanwhile Georgia is the only pickup for the Republicans to defend against, and Stacey Abrams will be on the ballot there.

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    LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    "Rich man isnt going to suffer consequences" might be a guess but its a reliable one.

    A guess which isn't particularly good; Epstien, Ghislane and stone were all loaded and all ate shit with only Stone getting off because Trump willed it. If the SDNY goes after trump there isn't going to be anyone to bail his saggy orange ass out.

    So again: I'm not convinced that trump is going to skate away on this and neither is he given how he abandoned his new york heritage to try and evade the state attorneys.

    I would consider these to be exceptions to the rule. I think the unreasonable assumption to take is that rich and powerful will feel consequences automagically. They wont without a lot of sustained will and effort.

    Epstein suffered, but how many other wealthy members that visited his island are currently roaming consequence free? That's the current norm.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Biden is meeting with Republicans for Infrastructure Week on Wednesday. So odds are some Sturm und Drang around then about partisanship and then it starts markup without any Republicans. Pelosi has already targeted getting it done before the August Recess.

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    MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

    The issue there is that the GOP is currently undergoing heavy voter suppression efforts to try and stave off that.

    They aren't empowered to do that in every State that is a reasonable pickup chance. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina all have Democratic Governors. Meanwhile Georgia is the only pickup for the Republicans to defend against, and Stacey Abrams will be on the ballot there.

    It doesn't matter who's on the ballot in Georgia because the legislature can just overturn the election on their own say-so

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Monwyn wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

    The issue there is that the GOP is currently undergoing heavy voter suppression efforts to try and stave off that.

    They aren't empowered to do that in every State that is a reasonable pickup chance. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina all have Democratic Governors. Meanwhile Georgia is the only pickup for the Republicans to defend against, and Stacey Abrams will be on the ballot there.

    It doesn't matter who's on the ballot in Georgia because the legislature can just overturn the election on their own say-so

    No, they actually can't.

    https://www.savannahnow.com/story/news/2021/04/07/georgia-new-election-law-republicans-overturn-results-senate-bill-202/7092460002/

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    GiantGeek2020GiantGeek2020 Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    I'll buy into this Deutche Bank calling in his loans shit I've been hearing about for 5 years when it actually happens. Until then, I am just going to assume he'll be eating $200 burnt steaks with ketchup until the day he finally dies.

    Deutche Bank has been sitting around waiting for trump to pay them off for an inordinately long time (likely due to russian influence) but all signs point to them wanting to be paid sometime in 2022 which would cripple trump at the financial level.
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Unless he’s dead, I don’t see how Trump’s ego doesn’t force him to run in 2024.

    He both loves attention and hates being thought of as a “loser” in any way. I feel like he’ll do everything he can to prove he can beat Biden.

    Here's the thing; he might not be in a position to. Deutche bank is going to be looking for money he can't exactly cough up without selling off a pile of his assets and SDNY is coming for him. Further the donor class took it in the pants last time trump was around and they're not going to be too eager to back him for another 4 years given the sheer volume of bullshit that occured under his watch.

    Hence why Liz could potentially be ridiculously strong if she successfully weathers this shit storm.

    the bank isn't going to do anything to him, SDNY isn't going to do anything that has much meaning to him, and he doesn't need 'the donor class' because he has the media at his beck and call and 74,216,154 morons who will do whatever he says

    Mind loaning me your crystal ball? I'd love to use it for the lottery.

    no crystal ball needed

    just look at the rest of trumps life

    he can't not fail but also can't lose. /shrug

    Yep that's why he's president now instead of Joe Biden.

    Oh wait....

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Monwyn wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

    The issue there is that the GOP is currently undergoing heavy voter suppression efforts to try and stave off that.

    They aren't empowered to do that in every State that is a reasonable pickup chance. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina all have Democratic Governors. Meanwhile Georgia is the only pickup for the Republicans to defend against, and Stacey Abrams will be on the ballot there.

    It doesn't matter who's on the ballot in Georgia because the legislature can just overturn the election on their own say-so

    No, they actually can't.

    https://www.savannahnow.com/story/news/2021/04/07/georgia-new-election-law-republicans-overturn-results-senate-bill-202/7092460002/

    This isn't on you, moniker, but: I don't believe them.
    "Of course we'd never"/"of course they'd never" - bullshit. They've made their intent clear, now it's just a matter of zeroing in on the details and the implementation.

    Take the assurance that only up to four counties can be nullified - let me guess, how many densely-populated blue-leaning counties there are in Georgia?
    Or that it all ends up in the lap of the Sec of State, a position currently occupied by someone who wasn't willing to blatantly throw the election to Trump, even when the latter called him up to hint at exactly that; what if we're not so lucky next time?

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Monwyn wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
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    Yeah, Trump is running in 2024, and Trump backed or supporting candidates will win in 2022. It’s the trump party now, and agreeing with whatever he says is their only platform. If you want to be a hawk conservative who doesn’t back trump, maybe join the Democratic Party

    This at least has not been true so far.

    So far. But call me when the senate Ds get off their asses and nuke the filibuster to pass HR1.

    I'm not sure what needs to be done to get those last few straggling Dem Senators to take care of the filibuster. Like I'm not sure what can even be done to convince Manchin, for example. I'm not sure he even cares all that much if he loses his next election, or if he thinks nuking the filibuster would help.

    Elect more Democratic Senators.

    The issue there is that the GOP is currently undergoing heavy voter suppression efforts to try and stave off that.

    They aren't empowered to do that in every State that is a reasonable pickup chance. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina all have Democratic Governors. Meanwhile Georgia is the only pickup for the Republicans to defend against, and Stacey Abrams will be on the ballot there.

    It doesn't matter who's on the ballot in Georgia because the legislature can just overturn the election on their own say-so

    No, they actually can't.

    https://www.savannahnow.com/story/news/2021/04/07/georgia-new-election-law-republicans-overturn-results-senate-bill-202/7092460002/

    This isn't on you, moniker, but: I don't believe them.
    "Of course we'd never"/"of course they'd never" - bullshit. They've made their intent clear, now it's just a matter of zeroing in on the details and the implementation.

    Take the assurance that only up to four counties can be nullified - let me guess, how many densely-populated blue-leaning counties there are in Georgia?
    Or that it all ends up in the lap of the Sec of State, a position currently occupied by someone who wasn't willing to blatantly throw the election to Trump, even when the latter called him up to hint at exactly that; what if we're not so lucky next time?

    Then Marc Elias will get a lot of billable hours and my wife's firm will give her a nicer Staff Appreciation Week gift.

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