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Let's all complain about the [job] thread

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I spent the morning wondering "is there such a thing as a coding notebook" cause I do a lot of algorithmic thinking on paper, but your traditional notebooks never seem to cut it in terms of form factor or like, pagination or something. I couldn't think what such a thing would look like though. So then I was like ok well form follows function, what are the features of my current setup that I'm looking to replicate or improve upon:

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    ... Oh, it's a whiteboard. I'm looking for a portable whiteboard. Ok.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    What you want is a giant digital desk screen whiteboard. :D

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    RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    I wouldn't strongly recommend the whiteboard paint. Not that you are looking at that. But if you are, just buy a whiteboard.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    No, scrawling out algorithms and theories on butcher's paper is much cooler.

    You have to think of posterity.

    Future generations wont be able to confusedly pore over whiteboards.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Radiation wrote: »
    I wouldn't strongly recommend the whiteboard paint. Not that you are looking at that. But if you are, just buy a whiteboard.

    We painted our conference rooms with whiteboard paint.

    It's great until someone forgets to erase it, and then it is so damned hard to clean it off. :(

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah I have some experience with whiteboard paint. It's not great.
    anyway I don't have room for a board or anything really at home. Yet another suboptimal feature of covid working life.

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    expendableexpendable Silly Goose Registered User regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    No, scrawling out algorithms and theories on butcher's paper is much cooler.

    You have to think of posterity.

    Future generations wont be able to confusedly pore over whiteboards.

    A giant roll of paper hanging on some sort of frame you wear. You can just reach up or over and grab some paper and pull it off.

    And pockets to store it in.

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    Lokiamis wrote: »
    So the servers suddenly decide to cramp up during the last six percent.
    Man, the Director will really go out of his way to be a dick to L4D players.
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    CarpyCarpy Registered User regular
    The whiteboard in my office might actually l be what I miss the most during WFH. Sure, having monitors would help my day to day efficiency but there's some times where what I really need is a 6x10 space to map a bunch of stuff out and I can't replicate that at home.

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    A folder full of empty DIN folded A1 paper sheets?

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    An extra large Etch A Sketch

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I just remembered that my phd supervisor once wrote equations all over a door in my office in permanent marker, and it wouldn't come off. And then one day I had the outside door open when one of the maintenance staff walked by, and he stopped and called over his colleague, and they did a bunch of head shaking and tut-tutting about it "Look at that then." "Gonna have to paint over that, I bet ya." "yeah that's not gonna come off, made a lot of work for us there haven't they", etc. etc.

    (I don't think they ever ended up painting it, I think they did a minor refit/remodel a few years later and just took the door out altogether).

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    You mean the gifted young guy janitor didn't solve all the super hard math problems written on the door?

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Radiation wrote: »
    I wouldn't strongly recommend the whiteboard paint. Not that you are looking at that. But if you are, just buy a whiteboard.

    My wife is looking at a new desk and were kind of liking the one that comes with the top finished with Whiteboard material.

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    MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Just wave your hands around like you're at a Minority Report holocomputer and store all your notes in your mind palace like a normal person.

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    Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Radiation wrote: »
    I wouldn't strongly recommend the whiteboard paint. Not that you are looking at that. But if you are, just buy a whiteboard.

    My wife is looking at a new desk and were kind of liking the one that comes with the top finished with Whiteboard material.

    "I spilled my tea and wiped out all the notes on quarter 3." :bigfrown:

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    CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Radiation wrote: »
    I wouldn't strongly recommend the whiteboard paint. Not that you are looking at that. But if you are, just buy a whiteboard.

    My wife is looking at a new desk and were kind of liking the one that comes with the top finished with Whiteboard material.

    Ugh no that's gonna scratch like crazy :bigfrown:

    Edit: just get a glass-topped desk if you want a dry-erase surface. More durable; easier to clean.

    Calica on
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    thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    ... Oh, it's a whiteboard. I'm looking for a portable whiteboard. Ok.

    This is incredibly relatable.

    Spoilered for a long walk that doesn’t go anywhere except rant city.
    I keep oscillating between notebooks and using a digital “Visio”+Wiki markup solution.

    Notebooks are the best, 1) the data is not sucked into some third-party’s data warehouse, 2) no Blue Glow, 3) the tactile feel of the page helps me think (I tried a tablet with an Apple Pencil and I couldn’t get it to click with my stupid brain).

    Digital notebooks are great though because of the ability to easily edit and version information. Plus being able to search quickly is so useful for my scattered brain.

    I saw some solutions that have a paper book with orienting marks so you’d take a photo and they’d OCR it for you, but they also have shitty data ownership terms in order to use their value-add service.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    yeah I've tried an ipad +pencil which SHOULD be a portable digital version of an infinite canvas, but somehow doesn't quite work - I think it's a combination of it being slightly slower to scribble down notes, and never being able to view the screen all at once while still having all the details legible. Always ends up more irritating than useful.

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    AtaxrxesAtaxrxes Hellnation Cursed EarthRegistered User regular
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    I used cursive pretty much exclusively from second grade (when I learned how) through college because I could write so much faster in cursive than in print. I only got out of the habit when I started taking a lot of programming classes, because it's hard to write code/pseudocode in cursive.

    My handwriting in general is much worse now than it was in college, mostly because I don't use it nearly as much. I'd like to fix that; but also I have a terrible writing deathgrip, so I'd need to basically retrain myself from the ground up, and so far I find my attempts to correct my grip intensely frustrating. It's so slow! And I can write so much faster if I revert to the wrong way! Sure my whole arm tires within seconds but at least it's fast!

    Question for the cursive-haters in the thread: do you think there's value in being able to at least read cursive? So many historical documents are written in it - including a lot of family history stuff from just a generation or two ago. Hell, my mom still sends me handwritten cards in cursive. I can't imagine not being able to read them.

    I don’t hate cursive, but I do have to read handwritten case notes by doctors, nurses, and a range of allied health staff, which basically ends up being a discordant pile of elegant cursive, scribbled cursive, the first three letters of a word followed by a long squiggly line, chicken scratches, just scribbles, micrographia, ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME, print but the i’s dotted with little circles, or some mishmash therein.

    Everyone on our team seems to be good at deciphering one type of writing. There are even doctors’ notes where we’re basically like, oh, it’s so-and-so, only Clinician A can read that so really this will just have to wait until they’re in on Wednesday. (Not really but it comes close sometimes.)

    It doesn’t help that most of the notes come from pretty time-poor folks, either. It’s like a broken typewriter sneezed in the middle of a whirlwind during an earthquake.

    If you want someone to decipher cursive, get ye to a social worker that has to read notes from a range of rushed, time-poor health professionals. We’ll figure that shit out. Eventually.

    So my screen name is some stupid shit I came up with when I was like 15 that is a sort of still phonetically accurate mangling of "Two-Fisted Death" because I saw someone with that name in StarCraft lobby and as a teenager I thought it was super cool, but it wouldn't fit in the name field of the MUD I first used it in.

    In my senior year in college I was super into puzzle pirates, where I also used the name. At one point someone in my flag was like "Tofu, what even is your name?" and immediately someone else chimed in with the correct answer.

    I was shocked, because he was literally the first person to just instantly jump to the right answer and asked why.
    His response: "I'm a pharmacist. It's what I do all day. "

    Thank you for clearing this up because I have been trying to decipher your handle for YEARS and now I feel like a dumb-ass a little bit.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I assumed something Russian.

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    KadithKadith Registered User regular
    i just made our customer service manager cry laughing by telling her the person who is the absolute worst at doing exceptions for pushy customers, gets incredibly flabbergasted on the phone when the customer is upset, and is terrible at communications in general, wants to be in charge of customer service for our new division when it becomes a reality

    i felt kinda bad but then that same person came into my office to ask for advice on something they were working on, i gave constructive advise on what we'd like to see from that project

    they laughed and left and said that they had felt better talking to their direct manager because that manager had just said "yeah what you have sounds fine"

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    The new person did some meeting small-talk about how some of the columns/tables in our database are [Like This] instead of like_this, and it's annoying. It is, but it's also like... whatever. It's a combo of active design choices and passing through 50 hands over decades, it's what it is and there is no real solution because it's not really like a misstep it's just an annoying thing.

    But because everyone has to prove they're totally up on Tech Stuff we spent like 10 minutes circling around it, including the suggestion "isn't there some function that could just rename all of these?"

    Yeah let's get to work on that, sounds like a winner.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    yeah I've tried an ipad +pencil which SHOULD be a portable digital version of an infinite canvas, but somehow doesn't quite work - I think it's a combination of it being slightly slower to scribble down notes, and never being able to view the screen all at once while still having all the details legible. Always ends up more irritating than useful.

    You should use a Buddha board. If you write it down and still can't remember by the time it dries then I guess it wasn't important!

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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    sarukun wrote: »
    Any particular reason why?

    My new job is in Vancouver, and Washington doesn't have income tax. If I move about 5 miles, I cease paying state income tax.

    EDIT: Oh, you were asking about the California hatred! Well that makes more sense. Yeah, what QT said.

    chromdom on
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    ThroThro pgroome@penny-arcade.com Registered User regular
    https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/mala-easel-softwood-white-50021076/
    Paper roll is on the bottom but comes up and over. My kids like it. I tend to clip the paper in place with chip clips, especially when they're using it for painting. Folds flat easily.
    It's uh, very low down for your average height adult though.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    yeah I've tried an ipad +pencil which SHOULD be a portable digital version of an infinite canvas, but somehow doesn't quite work - I think it's a combination of it being slightly slower to scribble down notes, and never being able to view the screen all at once while still having all the details legible. Always ends up more irritating than useful.

    Have you considered memento-ing your notes all over your body?

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    don't believe his lies

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    korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    The printing press I work on was very much not designed for people my height (6'3"/190cm), so I bump my head on stuff fairly frequently. Usually just hard enough to annoy me, but not cause any damage.

    Last night, however, saw me whack my head on a sensor for our fire suppression system that gashed my forehead bad enough to net me a couple stitches.

    But on the other hand, the fact that I'm fully vaccinated managed to net me an extra day of vacation thanks to the plant's vaccine incentive policy, so swings and roundabouts I suppose.

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    godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular
    Have you considered doing what the Japanese do, and wearing a hard hat every hour you’re on the job if it requires even the faintest whiff of manual labor?

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    With Jet fuel (and aviation gasoline), we mostly use liters and kilos and with a standard density, a kilo is just 0.8 of a liter, or a metric ton is 0.8 of a cubic meter. So either way, it's either divided by or times 0.8, depending on which way you're going.

    And then we also use US gallons, one US gallon being 3.785411784 liters. You know, for simplicity.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    With Jet fuel (and aviation gasoline), we mostly use liters and kilos and with a standard density, a kilo is just 0.8 of a liter, or a metric ton is 0.8 of a cubic meter. So either way, it's either divided by or times 0.8, depending on which way you're going.

    And then we also use US gallons, one US gallon being 3.785411784 liters. You know, for simplicity.

    How does that translate into garbage bags?

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Smh at these people who don't use the one true unit of liquid volume: Olympic Sized Swimming Pools.

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    expendableexpendable Silly Goose Registered User regular
    How many Rhode Islands is that?

    Djiem wrote: »
    Lokiamis wrote: »
    So the servers suddenly decide to cramp up during the last six percent.
    Man, the Director will really go out of his way to be a dick to L4D players.
    Steam
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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Smh at these people who don't use the one true unit of liquid volume: Olympic Sized Swimming Pools.

    OSP, huh...

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Smh at these people who don't use the one true unit of liquid volume: Olympic Sized Swimming Pools.

    Nah I prefer rats. One human has the blood volume of about 195 rats.

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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Smh at these people who don't use the one true unit of liquid volume: Olympic Sized Swimming Pools.

    Nah I prefer rats. One human has the blood volume of about 195 rats.

    Is this in whole rats, or rat blood volume equivalents?

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Blood volume equivalents

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    I generally kick work questions off with a friendly "u up?"

    "wyd?"

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    I generally kick work questions off with a friendly "u up?"

    "wyd?"

    "compiling some code"

    "without me? ;)"

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