Bizarro is not harmed by blue kryptonite. It's actually good for him, only he fears it.
As opposed to green kryptonite, which is bad for Superman.
Superman is also vulnerable to magic.
By that logic, Bizarro must be invulnerable to magic.
Therefore, Doom should lose.
Just one problem... he's a fucking mongoloid idiot. Doom won't have to fight him, just outsmart him someway.
No, you fucking simpleton.It has been stated numerous times on every page in this thread that Bizarro isn't an idiot. His logic is just the opposite of our logic.
And before Doom uses sorcery he'll try technology on Bizarro, and nothing technological Doom has on him is even remotely powerful enough to hurt Bizarro in any way. And then Doom is probably going to get frozen or punched in the face.
However many times it may be said here, I have never seen anything in the comics or elsewhere that could be considered an example of Bizarro having an IQ over, say, 45.
However many times it may be said here, I have never seen anything in the comics or elsewhere that could be considered an example of Bizarro having an IQ over, say, 45.
Post-Crisis Bizarro has only encountered Blue Kryptonite on one occasion, when Batzarro presented him with a ring set with a stone of it (Batman/Superman #25). The ring caused Bizarro to speak normally and act rationally, as well as granting him a 12th level intellect. The effect seems to be the opposite of the expected outcome. Instead of killing this Bizarro, it has the imperfect effect of making him intelligent. Still, he feared the ring. The ring appeared to have no effect on Batzarro since he is a Batman clone
This is the closest thing I could find on Wikipedia about how smart Bizarro is. The ring made him intelligent, meaning that before putting the ring on he was most certainly not intelligent.
However many times it may be said here, I have never seen anything in the comics or elsewhere that could be considered an example of Bizarro having an IQ over, say, 45.
Post-Crisis Bizarro has only encountered Blue Kryptonite on one occasion, when Batzarro presented him with a ring set with a stone of it (Batman/Superman #25). The ring caused Bizarro to speak normally and act rationally, as well as granting him a 12th level intellect. The effect seems to be the opposite of the expected outcome. Instead of killing this Bizarro, it has the imperfect effect of making him intelligent. Still, he feared the ring. The ring appeared to have no effect on Batzarro since he is a Batman clone
This is the closest thing I could find on Wikipedia about how smart Bizarro is. The ring made him intelligent, meaning that before putting the ring on he was most certainly not intelligent.
The ring gave him a twelfth-level intellect. Not having a twelfth-level intellect isn't being an idiot, it's not being a cosmic-scale supergenius.
Bizarro has been able to operate complex machinery, which would indicate that he is not an idiot. His reasoning is just the opposite of what we have. And his concepts are opposite. Good is bad, bad is good, up is down etcetera.
His reasoning is skewed. That doesn't make him an idiot.
And Doom's initial attmepts to trick him would probably consist of "I'm not your enemy" which is the absolute worst thing to say to Bizarro, because he's opposite.
Using his own system of logic isn't an excuse. His system of logic is pretty fucked up, and he does some pretty stupid shit.
Yes, but it doesn't really matter that much in a fight against a guy who could, in theory, hurt Bizarro with magic, if it weren;t for the fact that Doom almost never uses magic. And in this case, when Doom would use magic, it would already be too late, because Bizarro would have punched his head off already.
I have a question about Doom, since I do not know much about him. How proficient is he in magic exactly, relative to other magic users in the Marvel U.
By a very large margin. And he relies on his technology even while casting magic, mainly to copy other magicians' stances and movements.
Not after he traded Valeria's soul for more magical power, he no longer needs his suits enchantments for his magic.
He had a falling out with the demons he sold her soul to, and now he's pretty much back at his regular levels of magical ability, if I remember correctly.
"Bizarro's skin coating was extremely dense, but he was not nearly as indestructible as the Man of Steel."
Pistol (specifically bullet) to the eye for the win.
Also, if bizarro is given the standard set of instructions i imagine are given to participants, aka "fight to the death/knockout/etc, attack the other guy" he... wont.
"Bizarro's skin coating was extremely dense, but he was not nearly as indestructible as the Man of Steel."
Pistol (specifically bullet) to the eye for the win.
Goddamnit, if it was that simple then the SCU could have saved themselves a hell of a lot of trouble.
Also, if bizarro is given the standard set of instructions i imagine are given to participants, aka "fight to the death/knockout/etc, attack the other guy" he... wont.
Yes, but as soon as Doom shows up and tries to trick him, he won't.
And then he'll make a tea set out of Doom's suit and have a little tea-party with Odin.
Has the modern version of Bizarro killed anyone as quickly and brutally as you're saying he'd kill Doom? I know a little bit about him from Superman/Batman (which I don't read), and he just seemed like a friendly, incomprehensible behemoth. I wasn't even sure he'd qualify as a villain when The Hulk does not.
"Bizarro's skin coating was extremely dense, but he was not nearly as indestructible as the Man of Steel."
Pistol (specifically bullet) to the eye for the win.
Goddamnit, if it was that simple then the SCU could have saved themselves a hell of a lot of trouble.
Also, if bizarro is given the standard set of instructions i imagine are given to participants, aka "fight to the death/knockout/etc, attack the other guy" he... wont.
Yes, but as soon as Doom shows up and tries to trick him, he won't.
And then he'll make a tea set out of Doom's suit and have a little tea-party with Odin.
the pistol thing wasn't really serious, but replace pistol with a magic doom bolt or some energy blast from his armor and the result is the same. his armor also makes him super durable, so between that, forcefields and magic defenses, it probably won't be a simple matter of punching his face off.
Has the modern version of Bizarro killed anyone as quickly and brutally as you're saying he'd kill Doom? I know a little bit about him from Superman/Batman (which I don't read), and he just seemed like a friendly, incomprehensible behemoth. I wasn't even sure he'd qualify as a villain when The Hulk does not.
Well, it's not the same thing, not nearly by a longshot..but Bizarro did squeeze a young boys arm in two. Granted, 90% of the contestants could do that, but considering the circumstances, I found it pretty damn funny.
I haven't read much of anything that has Bizarro in it, nor have I read anything with lots of Doom (except for ultimate ff, which I assume we're not using here), but I have seen Bizarro in the DCAU. Lex Luthor basically controlled him by saying opposite things to him. And I'm assuming Doom is as intelligent as he is.
No problem, Doom will make Bizarro kill himself.
But because of the fact that Bizarro is in this contest, he will win.
I'm pretty sure the skin coating bizarro whatever was a different version from the current one, who is a magical, opposite duplicate of Superman created by the Joker with all of Superman's powers, only reversed.
I haven't read much of anything that has Bizarro in it, nor have I read anything with lots of Doom (except for ultimate ff, which I assume we're not using here), but I have seen Bizarro in the DCAU. Lex Luthor basically controlled him by saying opposite things to him. And I'm assuming Doom is as intelligent as he is.
No problem, Doom will make Bizarro kill himself.
But because of the fact that Bizarro is in this contest, he will win.
1. Bizarro
2. Ivy
3. Mysterio
4. Electro
DCAU Bizarro had a scar on his head, presumably because Lex performed brain surgery on him.
I'm pretty sure the skin coating bizarro whatever was a different version from the current one, who is a magical, opposite duplicate of Superman created by the Joker with all of Superman's powers, only reversed.
does that have any effect on what should be supe's vulnerability to magic?
also, with the reversed powers, does that mean like, frost vision and heat breath or what?
I'm pretty sure the skin coating bizarro whatever was a different version from the current one, who is a magical, opposite duplicate of Superman created by the Joker with all of Superman's powers, only reversed.
does that have any effect on what should be supe's vulnerability to magic?
also, with the reversed powers, does that mean like, frost vision and heat breath or what?
Yeah, and X-Ray hearing. Some people are taking this "opposite" shit a bit too far however. According to some of the voters logic, Bizarro should also be a non-caucasian looking female.
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Though, yellow sunlight doesn't hurt Bizarro...
Fuck, nobody really knows what's what with Bizarro, do they.
Anally.
No, you fucking simpleton.It has been stated numerous times on every page in this thread that Bizarro isn't an idiot. His logic is just the opposite of our logic.
And before Doom uses sorcery he'll try technology on Bizarro, and nothing technological Doom has on him is even remotely powerful enough to hurt Bizarro in any way. And then Doom is probably going to get frozen or punched in the face.
And this is why no one listens to you.
This is the closest thing I could find on Wikipedia about how smart Bizarro is. The ring made him intelligent, meaning that before putting the ring on he was most certainly not intelligent.
The ring gave him a twelfth-level intellect. Not having a twelfth-level intellect isn't being an idiot, it's not being a cosmic-scale supergenius.
Bizarro has been able to operate complex machinery, which would indicate that he is not an idiot. His reasoning is just the opposite of what we have. And his concepts are opposite. Good is bad, bad is good, up is down etcetera.
His reasoning is skewed. That doesn't make him an idiot.
And Doom's initial attmepts to trick him would probably consist of "I'm not your enemy" which is the absolute worst thing to say to Bizarro, because he's opposite.
Yes, but it doesn't really matter that much in a fight against a guy who could, in theory, hurt Bizarro with magic, if it weren;t for the fact that Doom almost never uses magic. And in this case, when Doom would use magic, it would already be too late, because Bizarro would have punched his head off already.
Without prep time, he's invincible.
By a very large margin. And he relies on his technology even while casting magic, mainly to copy other magicians' stances and movements.
Not after he traded Valeria's soul for more magical power, he no longer needs his suits enchantments for his magic.
He had a falling out with the demons he sold her soul to, and now he's pretty much back at his regular levels of magical ability, if I remember correctly.
"Bizarro's skin coating was extremely dense, but he was not nearly as indestructible as the Man of Steel."
Pistol (specifically bullet) to the eye for the win.
Also, if bizarro is given the standard set of instructions i imagine are given to participants, aka "fight to the death/knockout/etc, attack the other guy" he... wont.
Goddamnit, if it was that simple then the SCU could have saved themselves a hell of a lot of trouble.
Yes, but as soon as Doom shows up and tries to trick him, he won't.
And then he'll make a tea set out of Doom's suit and have a little tea-party with Odin.
the pistol thing wasn't really serious, but replace pistol with a magic doom bolt or some energy blast from his armor and the result is the same. his armor also makes him super durable, so between that, forcefields and magic defenses, it probably won't be a simple matter of punching his face off.
Well, it's not the same thing, not nearly by a longshot..but Bizarro did squeeze a young boys arm in two. Granted, 90% of the contestants could do that, but considering the circumstances, I found it pretty damn funny.
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No problem, Doom will make Bizarro kill himself.
But because of the fact that Bizarro is in this contest, he will win.
1. Bizarro
2. Ivy
3. Mysterio
4. Electro
Bizarro is cooler than Doom in the same way that you're cooler than Bruce Campbell.
Which is to say, not at all.
I don't think you get the logic behind Bizarro being cooler than Doom.
Here's a hint:
[spoiler:d6fb6ca826]It's Bizarro Logic[/spoiler:d6fb6ca826]
does that have any effect on what should be supe's vulnerability to magic?
also, with the reversed powers, does that mean like, frost vision and heat breath or what?
Yeah, and X-Ray hearing. Some people are taking this "opposite" shit a bit too far however. According to some of the voters logic, Bizarro should also be a non-caucasian looking female.
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But then, Marvel magic is different from DC magic so who knows if Doom could.
I doubt that Doom could do anything against 5th-Dimensional magic.