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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2021
    Kamiro wrote: »
    hmmm

    In my first rimworld game I let my animals multiply too freely and now half of my growing production is hay and they still have trouble making it through the winter.

    and also everyone is farming all the time and don't have time for other tasks.

    sigh

    i guess i should slaughter all these dromedaries and muffalo...

    :cry:

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Kamiro wrote: »
    hmmm

    In my first rimworld game I let my animals multiply too freely and now half of my growing production is hay and they still have trouble making it through the winter.

    and also everyone is farming all the time and don't have time for other tasks.

    sigh

    i guess i should slaughter all these dromedaries and muffalo...

    :cry:

    yeahhhh it took me an embarrassingly long time and A LOT of dead lambs before realizing I should have a pen for male animals and another for female animals ;_;

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    KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    Kamiro wrote: »
    hmmm

    In my first rimworld game I let my animals multiply too freely and now half of my growing production is hay and they still have trouble making it through the winter.

    and also everyone is farming all the time and don't have time for other tasks.

    sigh

    i guess i should slaughter all these dromedaries and muffalo...

    :cry:

    yeahhhh it took me an embarrassingly long time and A LOT of dead lambs before realizing I should have a pen for male animals and another for female animals ;_;

    oh

    this is smart

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    kedinik wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    baba is you does have that lovable quality (for me) where i get a sense of elation when i figure out the method. this doesn't happen when i just luck into it (which can happen on a lot of the puzzles, if you're persistent with trial and error)

    Hm I think the second part of my problem (other than the being too dumb part) is that there's no story to keep you going and, for me, not much of an internal sense of satisfaction for figuring out. It just all feels like a grind to get through, I guess, which is really not what I'm looking for in a game.

    have you tried Thomas Was Alone?

    No, but I really don't like games like that. I don't enjoy puzzle games or puzzle platformers or hard platformers, unfortunately

    I just ask because it sounded like the kind of game you might prefer over Baba

    Puzzles that are not designed to be very hard, cute art and memorable storytelling, imo

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited July 2021
    There are parts of baba is you that hinge on like, order of evaluation or rule priority in a way that's not always communicated well, and you can only divine this thru lots of experiments. those are not my favorite levels. I prefer the cleaner puzzles.

    Overall I would not call baba is you lateral thinking. It's extremely procedural, and based on rule evaluation. I feel like I'm good at it because of all my practice with making software, but the parts of my brain lighting up are not really what I use when doing regular everyday stuff. Its more like when I am debugging or abusing some library in a filthy hack to make it do something it wasn't intended to do.

    Like once there was a GUI toolkit that had no way to change the window color background. In fact you couldn't restyle the window at all. But I found out that all controls inherit the styling of their parents so I made a text field with a black background and made it the "parent" of the window control, despite having no parent itself to draw it and the window being the root control, and boom, the window background turned black.

    That type of dirty garbage is what baba is you feels like.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    What

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    What???

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    KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    oh no, and I somehow have like 30 labrador retrievers.

    um, everyone close your eyes and ears

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    There are parts of baba is you that hinge on like, order of evaluation or rule priority in a way that's not always communicated well, and you can only divine this thru lots of experiments. those are not my favorite levels. I prefer the cleaner puzzles.

    Overall I would not call baba is you lateral thinking. It's extremely procedural, and based on rule evaluation. I feel like I'm good at it because of all my practice with making software, but the parts of my brain lighting up are not really what I use when doing regular everyday stuff. Its more like when I am debugging or abusing some library in a filthy hack to make it do something it wasn't intended to do.

    Like once there was a GUI toolkit that had no way to change the window color background. In fact you couldn't restyle the window at all. But I found out that all controls inherit the styling of their parents so I made a text field with a black background and made it the "parent" of the window control, despite having no parent itself to draw it and the window being the root control, and boom, the window background turned black.

    That type of dirty garbage is what baba is you feels like.

    delicious, dirty garbage

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    There are parts of baba is you that hinge on like, order of evaluation or rule priority in a way that's not always communicated well, and you can only divine this thru lots of experiments. those are not my favorite levels. I prefer the cleaner puzzles.

    Overall I would not call baba is you lateral thinking. It's extremely procedural, and based on rule evaluation. I feel like I'm good at it because of all my practice with making software, but the parts of my brain lighting up are not really what I use when doing regular everyday stuff. Its more like when I am debugging or abusing some library in a filthy hack to make it do something it wasn't intended to do.

    Like once there was a GUI toolkit that had no way to change the window color background. In fact you couldn't restyle the window at all. But I found out that all controls inherit the styling of their parents so I made a text field with a black background and made it the "parent" of the window control, despite having no parent itself to draw it and the window being the root control, and boom, the window background turned black.

    That type of dirty garbage is what baba is you feels like.

    ugh but I have to do that for work, why do it for a game?
    Doesn't it feel to you like you get enough of that thinking at work and then in a game you want to kill stuff or explore or whatever?

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    MsAnthropyMsAnthropy The Lady of Pain Breaks the Rhythm, Breaks the Rhythm, Breaks the Rhythm The City of FlowersRegistered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    What

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    What???

    My understanding is that meteorologists report chance of rain as the result of Probability x Coverage Area, so I guess if Doug thinks the Probability is 100% then that works out…

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    I would like to believe that, like most other things, the lateral thinking required to solve puzzles in Baba is You or similar games is not an inherent quality but a skill that can be honed through practice.

    The problem is that unlike other mental disciplines I don't know where to even begin practicing it. I can't imagine that bringing home a stack of those brain teaser books full of tricksy logic and word problems they used to keep around the gifted classroom would meaningfully improve your ability to do other kinds of out-the-box thinking.
    I think it's less about like, figuring out how to view things from a new perspective to get some sudden flash of inspiration, and more about a methodical breakdown of what things do I have? What can I do with them? What do I need to accomplish? And leaving in all the parts of those things that seem stupid or pointless.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
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    Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    @Casual Eddy

    Dan Flashes shirts!!


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    @atomika lmao THE PATTERNS ARE SO COMPLICATED

    the jazz shirt kind of fucks, if only it didn’t say JAZZ on it

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    "Casual Eddy"

    Dan Flashes shirts!!


    q5wcyhcdsdt4.png

    atomika lmao THE PATTERNS ARE SO COMPLICATED

    the jazz shirt kind of fucks, if only it didn’t say JAZZ on it

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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    There are parts of baba is you that hinge on like, order of evaluation or rule priority in a way that's not always communicated well, and you can only divine this thru lots of experiments. those are not my favorite levels. I prefer the cleaner puzzles.

    Overall I would not call baba is you lateral thinking. It's extremely procedural, and based on rule evaluation. I feel like I'm good at it because of all my practice with making software, but the parts of my brain lighting up are not really what I use when doing regular everyday stuff. Its more like when I am debugging or abusing some library in a filthy hack to make it do something it wasn't intended to do.

    Like once there was a GUI toolkit that had no way to change the window color background. In fact you couldn't restyle the window at all. But I found out that all controls inherit the styling of their parents so I made a text field with a black background and made it the "parent" of the window control, despite having no parent itself to draw it and the window being the root control, and boom, the window background turned black.

    That type of dirty garbage is what baba is you feels like.

    ugh but I have to do that for work, why do it for a game?
    Doesn't it feel to you like you get enough of that thinking at work and then in a game you want to kill stuff or explore or whatever?

    I rarely get to abuse software like that at work. My job is lots of careful software design and endless meetings. Long gone are the days of chewing gum and string style development.

    Plus I liked doing it before my job and I still like figuring out wired stuff like that. And the game is cute and the problems are both designed and curated to ensure they can be solved and they're satisfying to solve.

    I like exploration games also. Killing stuff less and less over time.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    @Elki I’m curious, what are some of the things you dislike about Undertale?

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    Kamiro wrote: »
    hmmm

    In my first rimworld game I let my animals multiply too freely and now half of my growing production is hay and they still have trouble making it through the winter.

    and also everyone is farming all the time and don't have time for other tasks.

    sigh

    i guess i should slaughter all these dromedaries and muffalo...

    :cry:

    yeahhhh it took me an embarrassingly long time and A LOT of dead lambs before realizing I should have a pen for male animals and another for female animals ;_;

    if you're not raising them for meat, what are you raising them for

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    my problem was mainly that my colonists kept bonding with the damn dogs which made my "have a wave of huskies devour them all" tactics a right pain to organize

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    KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    Kamiro wrote: »
    hmmm

    In my first rimworld game I let my animals multiply too freely and now half of my growing production is hay and they still have trouble making it through the winter.

    and also everyone is farming all the time and don't have time for other tasks.

    sigh

    i guess i should slaughter all these dromedaries and muffalo...

    :cry:

    yeahhhh it took me an embarrassingly long time and A LOT of dead lambs before realizing I should have a pen for male animals and another for female animals ;_;

    if you're not raising them for meat, what are you raising them for

    pack animals

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    Kamiro wrote: »
    hmmm

    In my first rimworld game I let my animals multiply too freely and now half of my growing production is hay and they still have trouble making it through the winter.

    and also everyone is farming all the time and don't have time for other tasks.

    sigh

    i guess i should slaughter all these dromedaries and muffalo...

    :cry:

    yeahhhh it took me an embarrassingly long time and A LOT of dead lambs before realizing I should have a pen for male animals and another for female animals ;_;

    if you're not raising them for meat, what are you raising them for

    sex

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    dammit chu

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