Was wondering what was Emmert's angle, and that article and a similar one got to the same conclusion, once you strip all the chaff:
Emmert and the NCAA know they are screwed, so their best play is to pass the ball to the conferences, so they can quickly disappear into the background while the schools and the conferences knife each other on the upcoming free for all.
Wait. The colleges don't have the same monopoly exception major sports leagues have. They won't be able to trade players or be able to do salary caps or any of the other things the majors get away with because of that exemption.
That's going to have some knock-on effects, won't it? College kids already making bank suddenly have to choke down rules that go against their wishes?
Good lord, the NCAA really screwed the pooch here.
Emmert is amazingly horrible and incompetent at his job. Even though this result was apparent to anyone watching over the past decade, he continued to argue for control, right up until the Supreme Court smacked the taste out of his mouth and tore away the threadbare argument around Board of Regents that the NCAA used to argue that they had antitrust protection.
Edit: Also, what enables salary caps and such isn't antitrust exemptions, but a collective bargaining agreement between the players union and the league. Which is part of why Emmert is now saying that sports need to be handled separately.
Was wondering what was Emmert's angle, and that article and a similar one got to the same conclusion, once you strip all the chaff:
Emmert and the NCAA know they are screwed, so their best play is to pass the ball to the conferences, so they can quickly disappear into the background while the schools and the conferences knife each other on the upcoming free for all.
Wait. The colleges don't have the same monopoly exception major sports leagues have. They won't be able to trade players or be able to do salary caps or any of the other things the majors get away with because of that exemption.
That's going to have some knock-on effects, won't it? College kids already making bank suddenly have to choke down rules that go against their wishes?
Good lord, the NCAA really screwed the pooch here.
That exemption is also dependent on the players having union representation but I don't think caps or trading is relevant here. The players don't have a contract for them to be held to so there's no way to trade and the money players get will be from endorsements not the school so there's no payroll to cap.
Following this ordeal, Bloom became a public advocate against the NCAA’s amateurism policies, stating his case before Congressional panels and numerous media outlets, all while transitioning from playing sports to co-founding a marketing software company, Integrate, in 2010.
Bloom says his clashes with the college sports establishment and his experience as a scrappy, undersized football player informed his company’s angle into the nascent NIL space: Integrate plans to exclusively target walk-ons and other under-the-radar athletes in the lower-profile sports.
As an extension of his college reform advocacy, Bloom says his company’s initiative, “College Game Changers,” serves to strike a final blow at a timeworn trope used by defenders of amateurism—that name, image and likeness reform would only ever benefit “household names” at schools such as Alabama.
“I’ve heard it ad nauseam,” said Bloom.
This is personal for Bloom, who the NCAA ruled ineligible to play football because he received endorsements as an Olympic-class skier. People like Emmert have falsely argued that NIL money would only benefit the "big names" (an argument that has already been disproven), so he's going to personally demonstrate otherwise.
Perhaps you should have reined in your enforcement arm there, Mark - because now, there are a lot of people who want to return the favor.
In news that will make @enlightenedbum happy, the official retailer for Michigan is the first shop to get jersey license agreements in place, allowing fans to buy actual player jersey replicas with money gojng to the players:
Was wondering what was Emmert's angle, and that article and a similar one got to the same conclusion, once you strip all the chaff:
Emmert and the NCAA know they are screwed, so their best play is to pass the ball to the conferences, so they can quickly disappear into the background while the schools and the conferences knife each other on the upcoming free for all.
Wait. The colleges don't have the same monopoly exception major sports leagues have. They won't be able to trade players or be able to do salary caps or any of the other things the majors get away with because of that exemption.
That's going to have some knock-on effects, won't it? College kids already making bank suddenly have to choke down rules that go against their wishes?
Good lord, the NCAA really screwed the pooch here.
That sounds like a problem, but not Emmert's problem, you see.
The jersey thing was always the stupidest fiction. When I was in school the most popular jerseys were #1 (Braylon Edwards), #7 (Chad Henne), #15 (Steve Breaston), and #20 (Mike Hart), but the M Den couldn't put their names on them. Everyone knew why they were popular.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
In news that will make enlightenedbum happy, the official retailer for Michigan is the first shop to get jersey license agreements in place, allowing fans to buy actual player jersey replicas with money gojng to the players:
Day, speaking Friday at Lucas Oil Stadium, was asked about Alabama coach Nick Saban's recent comment that Crimson Tide quarterback Bryce Young could command seven figures in NIL agreements. Ohio State's starting quarterback occupies a similar position in the sport, and the growing Columbus market provides "the perfect alignment," Day said, for earning potential.
"Those things happen and will come naturally, but I do think we need to consider down the road, somewhere along the line, maybe it's a year from now, figuring out how we spread some of that money out," Day said. "Certainly the quarterback at Ohio State is going to have unbelievable opportunities, the wide receiver, the running back, there's going to be certain positions.
"However, how do we find ways to make sure we disseminate that throughout the team? Because there's a lot of guys out there who are also playing football, guys who are blocking for the quarterback, guys who are covering the wide receivers."
The proper response here is "you first". Because I seriously doubt that Day's concern here is really about fairness - I am willing to bet that it's about the fact that between Alston's impact on what the NCAA and schools can do alongside players getting major NIL deals, he's not going to have the control he used to.
Day, speaking Friday at Lucas Oil Stadium, was asked about Alabama coach Nick Saban's recent comment that Crimson Tide quarterback Bryce Young could command seven figures in NIL agreements. Ohio State's starting quarterback occupies a similar position in the sport, and the growing Columbus market provides "the perfect alignment," Day said, for earning potential.
"Those things happen and will come naturally, but I do think we need to consider down the road, somewhere along the line, maybe it's a year from now, figuring out how we spread some of that money out," Day said. "Certainly the quarterback at Ohio State is going to have unbelievable opportunities, the wide receiver, the running back, there's going to be certain positions.
"However, how do we find ways to make sure we disseminate that throughout the team? Because there's a lot of guys out there who are also playing football, guys who are blocking for the quarterback, guys who are covering the wide receivers."
The proper response here is "you first". Because I seriously doubt that Day's concern here is really about fairness - I am willing to bet that it's about the fact that between Alston's impact on what the NCAA and schools can do alongside players getting major NIL deals, he's not going to have the control he used to.
What the coach's words say to me is that he's afraid he can't put together an all star team like he used to without being able to bludgeon the players with the NCAA's rules. Because who's going to want to be the utility player to a million dollar quarterback? Which is a question I think that answers itself. Another million dollar player.
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Day, speaking Friday at Lucas Oil Stadium, was asked about Alabama coach Nick Saban's recent comment that Crimson Tide quarterback Bryce Young could command seven figures in NIL agreements. Ohio State's starting quarterback occupies a similar position in the sport, and the growing Columbus market provides "the perfect alignment," Day said, for earning potential.
"Those things happen and will come naturally, but I do think we need to consider down the road, somewhere along the line, maybe it's a year from now, figuring out how we spread some of that money out," Day said. "Certainly the quarterback at Ohio State is going to have unbelievable opportunities, the wide receiver, the running back, there's going to be certain positions.
"However, how do we find ways to make sure we disseminate that throughout the team? Because there's a lot of guys out there who are also playing football, guys who are blocking for the quarterback, guys who are covering the wide receivers."
The proper response here is "you first". Because I seriously doubt that Day's concern here is really about fairness - I am willing to bet that it's about the fact that between Alston's impact on what the NCAA and schools can do alongside players getting major NIL deals, he's not going to have the control he used to.
What the coach's words say to me is that he's afraid he can't put together an all star team like he used to without being able to bludgeon the players with the NCAA's rules. Because who's going to want to be the utility player to a million dollar quarterback? Which is a question I think that answers itself. Another million dollar player.
The NFL shows that's not the case, as you see the disparity between stars and journeyman players. It's more that you can't hold a player's scholarship hostage when both you and he know that he can pay retail. That, along with the impending death of the transfer portal (there is no way that it passes antitrust muster), means that coaches no longer hold the power of career life or death over their players, and absent contracts, elite players will be free to tell coaches to fuck off and decamp to another team.
OSU was always going to do just fine with NIL, I don’t think this coming from a place of fear about recruiting for Day, I think yeah he’s worried about not holding these players lives exclusively in his own hands anymore but also he is one of those coaches who is just thick as hell and ignorant about anything that isn’t football Xs and Os and can be reliably called upon for dumb takes
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Also, when you are worth almost a mil, you can much more easily say fuck off to abusive training practices and so on .
the only thing that annoys me about this is the money isn't coming from the NCAA, but now that labor has money they will be better able to deal with the assholes. I mean management.
The NCAA Board of Governors on Friday called for a constitutional convention in November, the first step toward launching dramatic reform in how the sprawling, multibillion-dollar enterprise of college sports is governed for years to come.
In the wake of a stinging loss in the Supreme Court and radical changes to the way athletes can be compensated -- and with College Football Playoff expansion and major conference realignment already in motion -- the NCAA said it wants to "reimagine" how it manages the needs of its more than 450,000 athletes.
"The goal is to make sure that we can align authority and responsibilities, get that right between campuses and the conferences and the national level," NCAA President Mark Emmert said in a brief teleconference with reporters.
That begins with examining the NCAA's very foundation, a six-article constitution that lays out the association's purpose, principles and general policies. Action on proposed changes to the constitution is expected to be taken at the NCAA's January convention.
Day, speaking Friday at Lucas Oil Stadium, was asked about Alabama coach Nick Saban's recent comment that Crimson Tide quarterback Bryce Young could command seven figures in NIL agreements. Ohio State's starting quarterback occupies a similar position in the sport, and the growing Columbus market provides "the perfect alignment," Day said, for earning potential.
"Those things happen and will come naturally, but I do think we need to consider down the road, somewhere along the line, maybe it's a year from now, figuring out how we spread some of that money out," Day said. "Certainly the quarterback at Ohio State is going to have unbelievable opportunities, the wide receiver, the running back, there's going to be certain positions.
"However, how do we find ways to make sure we disseminate that throughout the team? Because there's a lot of guys out there who are also playing football, guys who are blocking for the quarterback, guys who are covering the wide receivers."
The proper response here is "you first". Because I seriously doubt that Day's concern here is really about fairness - I am willing to bet that it's about the fact that between Alston's impact on what the NCAA and schools can do alongside players getting major NIL deals, he's not going to have the control he used to.
Day, speaking Friday at Lucas Oil Stadium, was asked about Alabama coach Nick Saban's recent comment that Crimson Tide quarterback Bryce Young could command seven figures in NIL agreements. Ohio State's starting quarterback occupies a similar position in the sport, and the growing Columbus market provides "the perfect alignment," Day said, for earning potential.
"Those things happen and will come naturally, but I do think we need to consider down the road, somewhere along the line, maybe it's a year from now, figuring out how we spread some of that money out," Day said. "Certainly the quarterback at Ohio State is going to have unbelievable opportunities, the wide receiver, the running back, there's going to be certain positions.
"However, how do we find ways to make sure we disseminate that throughout the team? Because there's a lot of guys out there who are also playing football, guys who are blocking for the quarterback, guys who are covering the wide receivers."
The proper response here is "you first". Because I seriously doubt that Day's concern here is really about fairness - I am willing to bet that it's about the fact that between Alston's impact on what the NCAA and schools can do alongside players getting major NIL deals, he's not going to have the control he used to.
Sounds an awful lot like socialism to me.
I like it.
Given the head coach of the football or basketball team is basically the top paid public employee in nearly every state if anybody needs to start sharing the wealth start with the coaches.
Day, speaking Friday at Lucas Oil Stadium, was asked about Alabama coach Nick Saban's recent comment that Crimson Tide quarterback Bryce Young could command seven figures in NIL agreements. Ohio State's starting quarterback occupies a similar position in the sport, and the growing Columbus market provides "the perfect alignment," Day said, for earning potential.
"Those things happen and will come naturally, but I do think we need to consider down the road, somewhere along the line, maybe it's a year from now, figuring out how we spread some of that money out," Day said. "Certainly the quarterback at Ohio State is going to have unbelievable opportunities, the wide receiver, the running back, there's going to be certain positions.
"However, how do we find ways to make sure we disseminate that throughout the team? Because there's a lot of guys out there who are also playing football, guys who are blocking for the quarterback, guys who are covering the wide receivers."
The proper response here is "you first". Because I seriously doubt that Day's concern here is really about fairness - I am willing to bet that it's about the fact that between Alston's impact on what the NCAA and schools can do alongside players getting major NIL deals, he's not going to have the control he used to.
Sounds an awful lot like socialism to me.
I like it.
Given the head coach of the football or basketball team is basically the top paid public employee in nearly every state if anybody needs to start sharing the wealth start with the coaches.
Yeah it reads to me like the coaches won't be getting their kickbacks anymore and want their players to give them some money
NCAA completes its investigation into Baylor, decides that because the university as a whole was so bad at reporting sexual assaults, the athletic department not bothering wasn't an impermissable benefit so they can't do anything.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Hey y'all, y'all know how I feel about this, I'm just gonna ask that if you talk about the Baylor decision in detail to please put it in spoilers with a content warning.
NCAA completes its investigation into Baylor, decides that because the university as a whole was so bad at reporting sexual assaults, the athletic department not bothering wasn't an impermissable benefit so they can't do anything.
NCAA completes its investigation into Baylor, decides that because the university as a whole was so bad at reporting sexual assaults, the athletic department not bothering wasn't an impermissable benefit so they can't do anything.
Because the entire school is apparently such a cesspool of misogyny and sexual assault, they can't punish the athletic department? Apparently they even literally said they found no "impermissible benefits" in regards to the non-reporting of sexual assault, in that because nobody at the school reported stuff it wasn't special treatment for athletes. So apparently all you have to do to avoid punishment is to consistently be shit to everybody I guess. What an absolute farce.
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Why is the NCAA, an athletic league, investigating criminal allegations at Baylor?
More importantly, why isn't the FBI doing a very thorough investigation of the entire university? Or is that actually happening and we might see some actual consequences for the leadership of Baylor? I know which one I'd bet on, but I do like to be surprised.
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Why is the NCAA, an athletic league, investigating criminal allegations at Baylor?
Because there was a widespread lack of institutional control at Baylor and football players had free rein to sexually assault women on campus.
Does the NCAA have a criminal investigations division with a legal jurisdiction that I am unaware of? This certainly sounds like it should be criminal prosecutor's office responsibility and if anything the NCAA should be a target of these investigations not the entity conducting them.
Why is the NCAA, an athletic league, investigating criminal allegations at Baylor?
Because there was a widespread lack of institutional control at Baylor and football players had free rein to sexually assault women on campus.
Does the NCAA have a criminal investigations division with a legal jurisdiction that I am unaware of? This certainly sounds like it should be criminal prosecutor's office responsibility and if anything the NCAA should be a target of these investigations not the entity conducting them.
It's a separate thing. And Waco police don't give a fuck.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
More importantly, why isn't the FBI doing a very thorough investigation of the entire university? Or is that actually happening and we might see some actual consequences for the leadership of Baylor? I know which one I'd bet on, but I do like to be surprised.
By and large it's because someone of local authority has to ask them to come in and do so. Which means you have the university itself, which isn't going to happen because that opens them up to all kinds of liability under all sorts of circumstances. Or the local police & city politicians, which again, they don't want to "tarnish" the reputation of the one thing which allows them to exist. Next level is state and county, which again, you're looking at a situation where no one wants to be the one who speaks about the elephant in the room because reasons of money and prestige.
Especially when it comes to sports and college, it comes down to money and prestige. Although the second is used as a shield, the former is the one used as a sword to cut down anyone who wants to see actual change happen.
It's also why so many hate Title IX coverage as it spreads the money around more. But given how bad the NCAA is in managing anything, it shouldn't come as any surprise how under utilized women's sports are, commercially.
All opinions are my own and in no way reflect that of my employer.
Why is the NCAA, an athletic league, investigating criminal allegations at Baylor?
Because there was a widespread lack of institutional control at Baylor and football players had free rein to sexually assault women on campus.
Does the NCAA have a criminal investigations division with a legal jurisdiction that I am unaware of? This certainly sounds like it should be criminal prosecutor's office responsibility and if anything the NCAA should be a target of these investigations not the entity conducting them.
Sorry, but this is a gooseshit argument. The NCAA is perfectly within its remit to also conduct investigations on schools for criminal conduct by the athletics departments. This idea that the only agency that should be involved is the police is a tired one that should be rejected.
Why is the NCAA, an athletic league, investigating criminal allegations at Baylor?
Because there was a widespread lack of institutional control at Baylor and football players had free rein to sexually assault women on campus.
Does the NCAA have a criminal investigations division with a legal jurisdiction that I am unaware of? This certainly sounds like it should be criminal prosecutor's office responsibility and if anything the NCAA should be a target of these investigations not the entity conducting them.
Sorry, but this is a gooseshit argument. The NCAA is perfectly within its remit to also conduct investigations on schools for criminal conduct by the athletics departments. This idea that the only agency that should be involved is the police is a tired one that should be rejected.
I didn't say it should just be police but it should be an authority with legal jurisdiction. Local, state, federal under Title IX, or even a special prosecution from Congress makes more sense. What punishment do you expect the NCAA to dole out? They aren't cops, they can't arrest anyone, and they can't even fire Baylor employees that don't work for them.
I am not an NCAA defender in the slightest but I would never expect them to investigate this kind of criminality and turning to them proliferates the abdication of duty on the part of our criminal justice systems.
Why is the NCAA, an athletic league, investigating criminal allegations at Baylor?
Because there was a widespread lack of institutional control at Baylor and football players had free rein to sexually assault women on campus.
Does the NCAA have a criminal investigations division with a legal jurisdiction that I am unaware of? This certainly sounds like it should be criminal prosecutor's office responsibility and if anything the NCAA should be a target of these investigations not the entity conducting them.
Sorry, but this is a gooseshit argument. The NCAA is perfectly within its remit to also conduct investigations on schools for criminal conduct by the athletics departments. This idea that the only agency that should be involved is the police is a tired one that should be rejected.
I didn't say it should just be police but it should be an authority with legal jurisdiction. Local, state, federal under Title IX, or even a special prosecution from Congress makes more sense. What punishment do you expect the NCAA to dole out? They aren't cops, they can't arrest anyone, and they can't even fire Baylor employees that don't work for them.
I am not an NCAA defender in the slightest but I would never expect them to investigate this kind of criminality and turning to them proliferates the abdication of duty on the part of our criminal justice systems.
No, they just can make Baylor's life miserable. They can strip them of scholarships, making them less able to compete. And while they may not be able to fire Baylor employees, they can place "show cause" rulings on them that will make it very hard to keep or get a job in college athletics.
Nobody is saying that they should replace law enforcement, but in matters like an athletics program with a history of turning a blind eye to sexual abuse, the NCAA definitely has a role to play alongside law enforcement.
I don’t think Butters is saying the NCAA was fine because they don’t have jurisdiction, I think Butters is saying that relying on the NCAA to do the right thing for victims is never going to lead to good outcomes
I agree that saying the NCAA is limited by jurisdiction here or in similar cases is a bad argument that needs to die
Anyway just trying to help Butters here cause he’s always doing me solids by yelling at my worst and dumbest sports takes
Why is the NCAA, an athletic league, investigating criminal allegations at Baylor?
Because there was a widespread lack of institutional control at Baylor and football players had free rein to sexually assault women on campus.
Does the NCAA have a criminal investigations division with a legal jurisdiction that I am unaware of? This certainly sounds like it should be criminal prosecutor's office responsibility and if anything the NCAA should be a target of these investigations not the entity conducting them.
Sorry, but this is a gooseshit argument. The NCAA is perfectly within its remit to also conduct investigations on schools for criminal conduct by the athletics departments. This idea that the only agency that should be involved is the police is a tired one that should be rejected.
I didn't say it should just be police but it should be an authority with legal jurisdiction. Local, state, federal under Title IX, or even a special prosecution from Congress makes more sense. What punishment do you expect the NCAA to dole out? They aren't cops, they can't arrest anyone, and they can't even fire Baylor employees that don't work for them.
I am not an NCAA defender in the slightest but I would never expect them to investigate this kind of criminality and turning to them proliferates the abdication of duty on the part of our criminal justice systems.
No, they just can make Baylor's life miserable. They can strip them of scholarships, making them less able to compete. And while they may not be able to fire Baylor employees, they can place "show cause" rulings on them that will make it very hard to keep or get a job in college athletics.
Nobody is saying that they should replace law enforcement, but in matters like an athletics program with a history of turning a blind eye to sexual abuse, the NCAA definitely has a role to play alongside law enforcement.
Well the role they seem to be playing isn't exactly one that is filling me with confidence. If they're going to not punish the athletic department because the entire school is a pile of shit, then either they need to punish the school administration as a whole (I don't think the NCAA has the authority to do this?) or refer the entire university to traditional law enforcement, and I don't mean the local Waco branch I mean somebody that will take this seriously. Otherwise you end up with a situation where the athletic departments can get away with all sorts of heinous shit, which seems to be what the NCAA would prefer.
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Emmert is amazingly horrible and incompetent at his job. Even though this result was apparent to anyone watching over the past decade, he continued to argue for control, right up until the Supreme Court smacked the taste out of his mouth and tore away the threadbare argument around Board of Regents that the NCAA used to argue that they had antitrust protection.
Edit: Also, what enables salary caps and such isn't antitrust exemptions, but a collective bargaining agreement between the players union and the league. Which is part of why Emmert is now saying that sports need to be handled separately.
That exemption is also dependent on the players having union representation but I don't think caps or trading is relevant here. The players don't have a contract for them to be held to so there's no way to trade and the money players get will be from endorsements not the school so there's no payroll to cap.
This is personal for Bloom, who the NCAA ruled ineligible to play football because he received endorsements as an Olympic-class skier. People like Emmert have falsely argued that NIL money would only benefit the "big names" (an argument that has already been disproven), so he's going to personally demonstrate otherwise.
Perhaps you should have reined in your enforcement arm there, Mark - because now, there are a lot of people who want to return the favor.
That sounds like a problem, but not Emmert's problem, you see.
Yeah, but what about his favourite, Ohio State?
The proper response here is "you first". Because I seriously doubt that Day's concern here is really about fairness - I am willing to bet that it's about the fact that between Alston's impact on what the NCAA and schools can do alongside players getting major NIL deals, he's not going to have the control he used to.
What the coach's words say to me is that he's afraid he can't put together an all star team like he used to without being able to bludgeon the players with the NCAA's rules. Because who's going to want to be the utility player to a million dollar quarterback? Which is a question I think that answers itself. Another million dollar player.
The NFL shows that's not the case, as you see the disparity between stars and journeyman players. It's more that you can't hold a player's scholarship hostage when both you and he know that he can pay retail. That, along with the impending death of the transfer portal (there is no way that it passes antitrust muster), means that coaches no longer hold the power of career life or death over their players, and absent contracts, elite players will be free to tell coaches to fuck off and decamp to another team.
They will, of course, if it's a key player. After sitting a play, obviously.
Well, or to get the local radio station and car dealerships that employ ALL the ex buckeyes to start them early with a big endorsement deal
Alston was truly the death blow to the NCAA.
Sounds an awful lot like socialism to me.
I like it.
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Given the head coach of the football or basketball team is basically the top paid public employee in nearly every state if anybody needs to start sharing the wealth start with the coaches.
Yeah it reads to me like the coaches won't be getting their kickbacks anymore and want their players to give them some money
I'm sure lots of shitheels in Waco are thanking him for this deliverance.
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This is their actual reasoning:
Fuck the motherfucking NCAA.
We all understand that the findings are the opposite of what law and regulation do, right? We all get that here?
This is using the same kind of unreasoning used in Espinoza v. Montana. It physically hurts my brain.
Because there was a widespread lack of institutional control at Baylor and football players had free rein to sexually assault women on campus.
Does the NCAA have a criminal investigations division with a legal jurisdiction that I am unaware of? This certainly sounds like it should be criminal prosecutor's office responsibility and if anything the NCAA should be a target of these investigations not the entity conducting them.
It's a separate thing. And Waco police don't give a fuck.
By and large it's because someone of local authority has to ask them to come in and do so. Which means you have the university itself, which isn't going to happen because that opens them up to all kinds of liability under all sorts of circumstances. Or the local police & city politicians, which again, they don't want to "tarnish" the reputation of the one thing which allows them to exist. Next level is state and county, which again, you're looking at a situation where no one wants to be the one who speaks about the elephant in the room because reasons of money and prestige.
Especially when it comes to sports and college, it comes down to money and prestige. Although the second is used as a shield, the former is the one used as a sword to cut down anyone who wants to see actual change happen.
It's also why so many hate Title IX coverage as it spreads the money around more. But given how bad the NCAA is in managing anything, it shouldn't come as any surprise how under utilized women's sports are, commercially.
Sorry, but this is a gooseshit argument. The NCAA is perfectly within its remit to also conduct investigations on schools for criminal conduct by the athletics departments. This idea that the only agency that should be involved is the police is a tired one that should be rejected.
I didn't say it should just be police but it should be an authority with legal jurisdiction. Local, state, federal under Title IX, or even a special prosecution from Congress makes more sense. What punishment do you expect the NCAA to dole out? They aren't cops, they can't arrest anyone, and they can't even fire Baylor employees that don't work for them.
I am not an NCAA defender in the slightest but I would never expect them to investigate this kind of criminality and turning to them proliferates the abdication of duty on the part of our criminal justice systems.
No, they just can make Baylor's life miserable. They can strip them of scholarships, making them less able to compete. And while they may not be able to fire Baylor employees, they can place "show cause" rulings on them that will make it very hard to keep or get a job in college athletics.
Nobody is saying that they should replace law enforcement, but in matters like an athletics program with a history of turning a blind eye to sexual abuse, the NCAA definitely has a role to play alongside law enforcement.
I agree that saying the NCAA is limited by jurisdiction here or in similar cases is a bad argument that needs to die
Anyway just trying to help Butters here cause he’s always doing me solids by yelling at my worst and dumbest sports takes
Well the role they seem to be playing isn't exactly one that is filling me with confidence. If they're going to not punish the athletic department because the entire school is a pile of shit, then either they need to punish the school administration as a whole (I don't think the NCAA has the authority to do this?) or refer the entire university to traditional law enforcement, and I don't mean the local Waco branch I mean somebody that will take this seriously. Otherwise you end up with a situation where the athletic departments can get away with all sorts of heinous shit, which seems to be what the NCAA would prefer.