I live in 1 of the 2 ridings in Calgary that have actually elected a not-conservative in the recent past so there's hope. I actually quite like my Liberal candidate. he was a fairly progressive on the city council and seems to be a pretty decent dude..... And Jag Sahota is my current MP who I abhor.
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I am absolutely praying that the bad actions of the UCP provincially negatively affect support for CPC in Alberta. The Lethbridge MLA Jason Neudorf just came out saying exactly what everyone expected, but our Premier and Health Minister have been avoiding saying for all of August. Alberta's strategy is "hope and pray".
The MP for his riding is Rachel Harder (notorious shit-heel) and was voted in with 67% of the vote in 2019. I have no doubt she'll get voted in, but if the margins could be thinner, it might make them think twice about how they operate in "safe" districts.
Between you and me, Peggy, I smoked this Juul and it did UNTHINKABLE things to my mind and body...
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The UCP is going to be strangely silent until after Sept 20.
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Think they'll replace him with another candidate? (I honestly don't know how the process works)
Another party would.
The CPC will probably use this as a "radical feminist trying to destroy honest god-fearing conservative sexual assaulter" angle to boost his campaign.
If he were important to the party? Maybe. But for a nobody candidate, it is easier for everybody to just replace him. The Cons aren't going to waste time on him.
So Radio-Canada (French CBC) had a special program a few days ago where they invited each party leader in turn and asked them a bunch of questions. I couldn't care less, but my parents watched Trudeau and O'Toole. They were bored to death by both. In their words, "Trudeau recited memorized canned answers, twisting the questions as needed to fit the scripted answers. O'Toole did the same but more poorly because of his bad French."
And so, the most bland and boring election in Canadian history drags on.
And so, the most bland and boring election in Canadian history drags on.
So you've noticed that too, eh? I've never seen this thread (and many other places of political trumpeting or discussion) so quiet during election time.
And so, the most bland and boring election in Canadian history drags on.
So you've noticed that too, eh? I've never seen this thread (and many other places of political trumpeting or discussion) so quiet during election time.
regardless of what party you are voting for..... This is it? This is what we have to choose from?
And so, the most bland and boring election in Canadian history drags on.
So you've noticed that too, eh? I've never seen this thread (and many other places of political trumpeting or discussion) so quiet during election time.
Polling sucks up here and nothing of interest has come up so there's nothing to say for the most part.
So they're FINALLY going to implement a vax passport in ON, but are they?
NO way to verify vax status, as businesses, until LATE OCT... The PDFs they expect us to use on/until Sept 22 are COMPLETELY FORGIBLE.
Will this app also be super easy to circumvent? Will any of this remain if CPC wins on the 20th?
How does this help us NOW?
This world is trying so damned hard to give me an aneurism right now! My kids are both under 12 and there will VERY LIKELY be willingly unvaccinated adults in their school. WE CANNOT keep them home this year. My business caters exclusively to children who cannot be vaccinated. To even attempt to reopen safely, I NEED to KNOW that my guest care about those who cannot take the shot.
How's all the rest of you Canuckleheads today? I'm trying to keep my spinning head from taking flight.
This world needs a new philosophy. No more, "Could be worse..." I say SHOULD BE BETTER!
So they're FINALLY going to implement a vax passport in ON, but are they?
NO way to verify vax status, as businesses, until LATE OCT... The PDFs they expect us to use on/until Sept 22 are COMPLETELY FORGIBLE.
Will this app also be super easy to circumvent? Will any of this remain if CPC wins on the 20th?
How does this help us NOW?
This world is trying so damned hard to give me an aneurism right now! My kids are both under 12 and there will VERY LIKELY be willingly unvaccinated adults in their school. WE CANNOT keep them home this year. My business caters exclusively to children who cannot be vaccinated. To even attempt to reopen safely, I NEED to KNOW that my guest care about those who cannot take the shot.
How's all the rest of you Canuckleheads today? I'm trying to keep my spinning head from taking flight.
Oh I am very fuckin angry about this, yes
Everyone already has the papers and yet we can't implement the requirement to have the papers until 2 days after the election?? Was September 21 just a little too obvious? Why the fuck are we not doing this on Friday instead? (I know, I know, election, but there's no public health excuse)
I can only assume this means that small, nigh imperceptible, improvements will result for our frontline workers.
As I've worked in healthcare for 15 years, I can feel my hopes rising to... hahaha, I cant even pretend.
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Brian Lilley with absolutely nothing of use on his twitter feed, lots of ripping on Trudeau though. What a piece of shit working for a trash new source.
Oh wonderful. There's an anti-vaxx/anti-mask/anti-braincell rally outside of the Halifax Infirmary. I wish I could sit out there and get a third shot while entirely wrapped in masks.
The dictum that truth always triumphs over persecution is one of the pleasant falsehoods which men repeat after one another till they pass into commonplaces, but which all experience refutes.
-John Stuart Mill
In Alberta, they said we can just screenshot our vaccine status off the app or website.... you know, on the screen that has zero identifying information at all.
In Alberta, they said we can just screenshot our vaccine status off the app or website.... you know, on the screen that has zero identifying information at all.
I’ve been trying to gain access to said website for a year now; but it requires a code they snail mail you; which never actually shows up. And the pharmacy where I got
mine never gave me anything so wooo
O'Toole: "Le panier d'épicerie coûte trop cher. On a un plan pour -"
Blanchet: "Encore un plan! Il suffit pas de dire qu'on a un plan. C'est quoi le plan?"
O'Toole: "Je vais vous envoyer mon plan."
Blanchet: "On a deux heures. Expliquez-nous le plan."
Pierre Bruneau is a great moderator. He actually keeps them on topic, repeats questions they try to dodge, and cuts them off when they start bickering and talking over each other.
Trudeau is playing the fear game. "Conservatives will privatize healthcare! Conservatives will turn back on climate change! Conservatives will bring back assault riffles!"
Here's a thought. If you don't want Canadians to elect Conservatives, how about you don't hold an unnecessary election two years ahead of schedule?
Trudeau should be focusing on what he did and what he plans to do. Trying to scare people away from the Cons is not a winning strategy for him.
O'Toole: "Le panier d'épicerie coûte trop cher. On a un plan pour -"
Blanchet: "Encore un plan! Il suffit pas de dire qu'on a un plan. C'est quoi le plan?"
O'Toole: "Je vais vous envoyer mon plan."
Blanchet: "On a deux heures. Expliquez-nous le plan."
While the biggest self improvement thing in my life during the pandemic was getting fit, the second biggest has probably been spending way more time in Duolingo trying to learn French. I know that that’s not particularly hard French there, but that the only thing that I didn’t recognize offhand was “panier d’épicerie” and I could guess at that (well, I was 60% sure based on “panier” and Google translate confirmed it) makes me pretty happy.
Je vais devenir bilingue!
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I feel fairly confidant I could order something from a French menu and have a good idea what I'm going to get, but that's just from sheer osmosis of having the French on every single food item I've ever seen since I was born.
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The biggest surprise of the night for me was Trudeau outirght admitting than we're going back to an election within 18 months if there is a minority.
I found O'Toole to be very lacking in substance. Very dissapointing. On childcare in particular, he looked like a fool..
Trudeau was very passionate and surpringsly honest.
But... the clear winner to me was YFB. He's one level above everyone else.
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That's not a surprising result. I remember the last federal debates, and frankly he just dominates them. I suspect it's a combination of "actually just more charismatic and clever" and "only has to appease Quebec and doesn't have to worry about his messaging nearly as much as the others."
I feel fairly confidant I could order something from a French menu and have a good idea what I'm going to get, but that's just from sheer osmosis of having the French on every single food item I've ever seen since I was born.
I'm reading Mike Myers' Canada* and he relates that he didn't realise until well into his twenties that "Old Fort" was not a type of cheese.
*Half memoir, half Canadiana, surprisingly enjoyable read. I think it's because, while I grew up twenty five years after him, I was raised on repeats of everything he was: The Friendly Giant, Mr. Dressup, SCTV, etc. And then stuff he was involved in: SNL, Wayne's World, Austin Powers. (Of course, his comedy for the last decade-or-more has just seemed like he was trying too hard.)
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Determined to distance themselves from the "Progressive" portion of the PC namesake, the talk of the week has been how our newly elected NS premier appointed a white guy to the minister of African Nova Scotia Affairs. The defense has been "we ran black candidates, but none of them were elected," but it's not really resonating with people. It also combines poorly with firing several high profile civil servants who are black, and replacing them with ... more white people.
Also in case you missed the whole appointment process, a landlord was put in charge of Municipal Affairs & Housing, and "wasn't sure" if that represented a conflict of interest.
Ugh... this election... I can't support O'Toole, but at least I'll take solace in the fact that, at least for now, he's not trying to do the Maxime Bernier/Doug Ford strategy of "Trump-lite" populist, so thank god for small graces I guess.
Ugh... this election... I can't support O'Toole, but at least I'll take solace in the fact that, at least for now, he's not trying to do the Maxime Bernier/Doug Ford strategy of "Trump-lite" populist, so thank god for small graces I guess.
Pretty sure that's some populist BS right there. In the main slogan. Not to mention telling us all directly they'd not have/will not continue to support those hardest hit by the pandemic. Not to mention the abortion issue they're chomping at the bit to end all rights to. Not to mention them stating explicitly the will end firearm bans and wish to enhance the police state.
Text is super impossible to imply tone with accurately and I am indeed salty as the ON CONS put my children's lives in danger, but, can you explain your stance a bit better here? In spite of my tone?
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This world needs a new philosophy. No more, "Could be worse..." I say SHOULD BE BETTER!
Ugh... this election... I can't support O'Toole, but at least I'll take solace in the fact that, at least for now, he's not trying to do the Maxime Bernier/Doug Ford strategy of "Trump-lite" populist, so thank god for small graces I guess.
Pretty sure that's some populist BS right there. In the main slogan. Not to mention telling us all directly they'd not have/will not continue to support those hardest hit by the pandemic. Not to mention the abortion issue they're chomping at the bit to end all rights to. Not to mention them stating explicitly the will end firearm bans and wish to enhance the police state.
Text is super impossible to imply tone with accurately and I am indeed salty as the ON CONS put my children's lives in danger, but, can you explain your stance a bit better here? In spite of my tone?
No, that's just a slogan. Populism is appealing to ordinary people and specifically being against the elite largely because they are the elite, or a group because they are given the appearance of being advantaged either by the elites, or because of who they are. It's also not necessarily bad, I'm sure occupy wall street was quite popular in here and that was explicitly a populist message of the 99% (everyone) vs the 1% (wall street / billionaires / "the rich"). Elections are themselves populist in a way, so you're going to get a minimal amount of pandering to everyone and the "hard working Canadians" from everyone
Trump's "drain the swamp" was populist, everyone vs the DC elites. His anti-immigration stance was populist, as it pitted Americans vs the much smaller set of immigrants and against the elites who were allowing immigration and giving them financial assistance and so on
The Liberal slogan is "Forward. For Everyone"
NDP is "Fighting for You"
"Secure Canada's Future" is... well it might be vaguely nationalist I guess. If you click through "SECURE ACCOUNTABILITY by enacting a new Anti-Corruption law to clean up the mess in Ottawa." might be the closest thing to populism as it does set up an everybody vs corrupt politicians conflict, but it's really just a continuation of the usual "cons investigate the libs for minor scandals" that's been a thing forever
You don't have to agree with their policies but I don't think populist is really the best critique here. Regressive or reactionary probably
Also populist political movements tend to be based around a singular figure who inspires fervor. You see this with Trump, and some revolutionary movements who follow the person as much as the ideology and... come on... O'Toole?
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https://cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/nathan-neudorf-ucp-covid-1.6157132
The MP for his riding is Rachel Harder (notorious shit-heel) and was voted in with 67% of the vote in 2019. I have no doubt she'll get voted in, but if the margins could be thinner, it might make them think twice about how they operate in "safe" districts.
If he were important to the party? Maybe. But for a nobody candidate, it is easier for everybody to just replace him. The Cons aren't going to waste time on him.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-candidate-allegations-inappropriate-behaviour-female-staffers-1.6157917
And so, the most bland and boring election in Canadian history drags on.
So you've noticed that too, eh? I've never seen this thread (and many other places of political trumpeting or discussion) so quiet during election time.
regardless of what party you are voting for..... This is it? This is what we have to choose from?
Polling sucks up here and nothing of interest has come up so there's nothing to say for the most part.
NO way to verify vax status, as businesses, until LATE OCT... The PDFs they expect us to use on/until Sept 22 are COMPLETELY FORGIBLE.
Will this app also be super easy to circumvent? Will any of this remain if CPC wins on the 20th?
How does this help us NOW?
This world is trying so damned hard to give me an aneurism right now! My kids are both under 12 and there will VERY LIKELY be willingly unvaccinated adults in their school. WE CANNOT keep them home this year. My business caters exclusively to children who cannot be vaccinated. To even attempt to reopen safely, I NEED to KNOW that my guest care about those who cannot take the shot.
How's all the rest of you Canuckleheads today? I'm trying to keep my spinning head from taking flight.
Oh I am very fuckin angry about this, yes
Everyone already has the papers and yet we can't implement the requirement to have the papers until 2 days after the election?? Was September 21 just a little too obvious? Why the fuck are we not doing this on Friday instead? (I know, I know, election, but there's no public health excuse)
Just, unbelievable
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I can only assume this means that small, nigh imperceptible, improvements will result for our frontline workers.
As I've worked in healthcare for 15 years, I can feel my hopes rising to... hahaha, I cant even pretend.
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Colin D'Mello opening with a "hope you feel safe with no journalists in the room" was ice cold
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I’ve been trying to gain access to said website for a year now; but it requires a code they snail mail you; which never actually shows up. And the pharmacy where I got
mine never gave me anything so wooo
*click*
Oh, because Erin O'Toole apparently has an account. This is my surprised face.
Edit: Although this has apparently been known since January, so I'm guessing a stored-for-the-election media push.
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If you just tuned in without any context, you'd bet your house O'Toole is a cool collected PM and Trudeau is an aggressive contender.
Blanchet: "Encore un plan! Il suffit pas de dire qu'on a un plan. C'est quoi le plan?"
O'Toole: "Je vais vous envoyer mon plan."
Blanchet: "On a deux heures. Expliquez-nous le plan."
Sigh.
Here's a thought. If you don't want Canadians to elect Conservatives, how about you don't hold an unnecessary election two years ahead of schedule?
Trudeau should be focusing on what he did and what he plans to do. Trying to scare people away from the Cons is not a winning strategy for him.
While the biggest self improvement thing in my life during the pandemic was getting fit, the second biggest has probably been spending way more time in Duolingo trying to learn French. I know that that’s not particularly hard French there, but that the only thing that I didn’t recognize offhand was “panier d’épicerie” and I could guess at that (well, I was 60% sure based on “panier” and Google translate confirmed it) makes me pretty happy.
Je vais devenir bilingue!
I found O'Toole to be very lacking in substance. Very dissapointing. On childcare in particular, he looked like a fool..
Trudeau was very passionate and surpringsly honest.
But... the clear winner to me was YFB. He's one level above everyone else.
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
I'm reading Mike Myers' Canada* and he relates that he didn't realise until well into his twenties that "Old Fort" was not a type of cheese.
*Half memoir, half Canadiana, surprisingly enjoyable read. I think it's because, while I grew up twenty five years after him, I was raised on repeats of everything he was: The Friendly Giant, Mr. Dressup, SCTV, etc. And then stuff he was involved in: SNL, Wayne's World, Austin Powers. (Of course, his comedy for the last decade-or-more has just seemed like he was trying too hard.)
Also in case you missed the whole appointment process, a landlord was put in charge of Municipal Affairs & Housing, and "wasn't sure" if that represented a conflict of interest.
Ho hum ...
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
He's not?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExA97LAWQAAkqnU.jpg
Pretty sure that's some populist BS right there. In the main slogan. Not to mention telling us all directly they'd not have/will not continue to support those hardest hit by the pandemic. Not to mention the abortion issue they're chomping at the bit to end all rights to. Not to mention them stating explicitly the will end firearm bans and wish to enhance the police state.
Text is super impossible to imply tone with accurately and I am indeed salty as the ON CONS put my children's lives in danger, but, can you explain your stance a bit better here? In spite of my tone?
I just made the distinction now.... i'm almost 43
No, that's just a slogan. Populism is appealing to ordinary people and specifically being against the elite largely because they are the elite, or a group because they are given the appearance of being advantaged either by the elites, or because of who they are. It's also not necessarily bad, I'm sure occupy wall street was quite popular in here and that was explicitly a populist message of the 99% (everyone) vs the 1% (wall street / billionaires / "the rich"). Elections are themselves populist in a way, so you're going to get a minimal amount of pandering to everyone and the "hard working Canadians" from everyone
Trump's "drain the swamp" was populist, everyone vs the DC elites. His anti-immigration stance was populist, as it pitted Americans vs the much smaller set of immigrants and against the elites who were allowing immigration and giving them financial assistance and so on
The Liberal slogan is "Forward. For Everyone"
NDP is "Fighting for You"
"Secure Canada's Future" is... well it might be vaguely nationalist I guess. If you click through "SECURE ACCOUNTABILITY by enacting a new Anti-Corruption law to clean up the mess in Ottawa." might be the closest thing to populism as it does set up an everybody vs corrupt politicians conflict, but it's really just a continuation of the usual "cons investigate the libs for minor scandals" that's been a thing forever
You don't have to agree with their policies but I don't think populist is really the best critique here. Regressive or reactionary probably
Also populist political movements tend to be based around a singular figure who inspires fervor. You see this with Trump, and some revolutionary movements who follow the person as much as the ideology and... come on... O'Toole?