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An Incomplete [History] of History Threads

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    How were people in olden times not just sweating balls all day in their button up suits and hats?

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Apropros of nothing I feel like all the folks who made credible assassination attempts on Hitler should get posthumous "At least you tried" medals. Presumaby the medal would be shaped like hitler's head but with a hole in it

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    How were people in olden times not just sweating balls all day in their button up suits and hats?

    I think they were, but also natural fibers breath better than the plastic garments we wear today

  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    How were people in olden times not just sweating balls all day in their button up suits and hats?

    That was back before global warming.

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    This three piece woolen suit was treated with piss and so was I so was everyone and everything you just wish you could notice yourself sweat

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    How were people in olden times not just sweating balls all day in their button up suits and hats?

    I think they were, but also natural fibers breath better than the plastic garments we wear today

    Also, most everywhere, everyone and everything would smell different or like a barnyard until about 1950 or so

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
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    16 October 1964, Lop Nur nuclear weapon test site

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2021
    That horse is probably already riddled with cancer in that picture

    Fencingsax on
  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    Scientists say a new dating technique analysing tree rings has provided evidence that Vikings occupied a site in Newfoundland, Canada, in 1021AD.

    They said that using an atmospheric radiocarbon signal produced by a dated solar storm as a reference, they were able to pin the "exact felling year of the tree" to 1021.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58996186

  • JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    I recognize that picture from this footage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPHaWDT10s

    It's from the movie "Trinity and Beyond" (which I have not seen). Obviously the original footage is Chinese Propaganda made to show how strong they are, given how at the time their main geopolitical foes the USA and the USSR had huge arsenals of their own while they were far behind.

  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    If you like(?) that, I can highly recommend The Atomic Cafe, a 1982 documentary that is nothing but primary-source footage expertly stitched together to show how uniquely fucked the Atomic Age was.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF0r1OdDIME

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    How were people in olden times not just sweating balls all day in their button up suits and hats?

    I think they were, but also natural fibers breath better than the plastic garments we wear today

    Also, most everywhere, everyone and everything would smell different or like a barnyard until about 1950 or so

    I'm curious if there's any actual study of "what the world used to smell like".

  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    How were people in olden times not just sweating balls all day in their button up suits and hats?

    I think they were, but also natural fibers breath better than the plastic garments we wear today

    Also, most everywhere, everyone and everything would smell different or like a barnyard until about 1950 or so

    I'm curious if there's any actual study of "what the world used to smell like".

    Pretty bad compared to modern sensibilities most likely. Cologne and perfume would have been much rarer/expensive. Deodorant/antiperspirants didn't exist as we know them, and the majority of work would involve manual labor with no AC or even fans up until the industrial revolution. No indoor/modern plumbing, large animals being used in the same streets as pedestrians, open air slaughterhouses, raw animal products, and infrequent baths add into the mix as well. I don't think we could ever really know for sure but I am very confident in saying that a modern person from most of the world would be immediately aware of the differences.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Anthropologie lies

  • valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    Is anyone here into medieval reenactment? I was looking into buying a costume, and since it's me, I want something historically accurate. I found a website called medievalcollectibles.com. They seem to be mostly accurate, or as accurate as I want, and still be able to buy something all in one place, but I'm having trouble with the pants. They have several outfits that they sell complete, but I am picking and choosing which pieces I want. Also, the boots are throwing me off.

    What kinds of pants, and boots/shoes would the average medieval traveler/forest ranger have worn?

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Which period are you aiming for

    If we're talking about the 13th to 15th century, they would've been either bare-legged during summer or would've worn wool hose in the winter

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    Breeches weren't that all-pervasive until the 17th century

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited October 2021
    Boots: in hunting scenes you mostly see knee-high boots

    You also see people hunting barefoot or only in hose, I'm not sure if the latter means they ditched their boots to make less noise or if there was an artistic reason (you would rip hose and medieval boots would not've been the heaviest footwear)

    Platy on
  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited October 2021
    https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/illuminated-manuscripts-medieval-hunting-scenes-the-hunting-book-by-gaston-phoebus/

    EDIT: also, you gotta keep in mind these weren't costumes, they were clothing

    shit was meant to be comfortable, practical, and durable

    EDIT2: kult of athena is one of the better stores for international shipping https://www.kultofathena.com/product-category/clothing/

    PiptheFair on
  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    That horse is probably already riddled with cancer in that picture

    Moments later, after the photo was taken, the tentacles emerge from the horse. Today, they feed.

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  • valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/illuminated-manuscripts-medieval-hunting-scenes-the-hunting-book-by-gaston-phoebus/

    EDIT: also, you gotta keep in mind these weren't costumes, they were clothing

    shit was meant to be comfortable, practical, and durable

    EDIT2: kult of athena is one of the better stores for international shipping https://www.kultofathena.com/product-category/clothing/

    A lot of those are using the same pictures as what's on the website I posted. I know most of this is going to be costume type stuff, and probably not as accurate as it could be, but that kind of stuff probably wouldn't sell as well as more modern type stuff.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/illuminated-manuscripts-medieval-hunting-scenes-the-hunting-book-by-gaston-phoebus/

    EDIT: also, you gotta keep in mind these weren't costumes, they were clothing

    shit was meant to be comfortable, practical, and durable

    EDIT2: kult of athena is one of the better stores for international shipping https://www.kultofathena.com/product-category/clothing/

    A lot of those are using the same pictures as what's on the website I posted. I know most of this is going to be costume type stuff, and probably not as accurate as it could be, but that kind of stuff probably wouldn't sell as well as more modern type stuff.

    oh yeah absolutely, modern recreations of ancient/medieval clothing is extremely niche so expect to fork over some cash the more authentic you get

  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Bleach my hose with piss and sunlight.

  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Bleach my hose with piss and sunlight.

    This is my last resort.

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  • valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Bleach my hose with piss and sunlight.

    Kinky

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  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    As someone who will bitch and moan about how cold I am with my state of the art triple insulated coat, waterproof boots, and thermal gloves, I will never comprehend how people managed to do the necessary things for survival in the winter in the medieval ages, or even hunter gatherers in the Ice Age.

    No doubt they had tricks of the trade, passed down from generation to generation on ways to keep themselves warm, but I feel weak compared to them.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    As someone who will bitch and moan about how cold I am with my state of the art triple insulated coat, waterproof boots, and thermal gloves, I will never comprehend how people managed to do the necessary things for survival in the winter in the medieval ages, or even hunter gatherers in the Ice Age.

    No doubt they had tricks of the trade, passed down from generation to generation on ways to keep themselves warm, but I feel weak compared to them.

    Animal skin/fur is probably way warmer than the extruded oil we wear

  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    As someone who will bitch and moan about how cold I am with my state of the art triple insulated coat, waterproof boots, and thermal gloves, I will never comprehend how people managed to do the necessary things for survival in the winter in the medieval ages, or even hunter gatherers in the Ice Age.

    No doubt they had tricks of the trade, passed down from generation to generation on ways to keep themselves warm, but I feel weak compared to them.

    Animal skin/fur is probably way warmer than the extruded oil we wear

    also different diets etc, i think? Also it depends what you're calling the medieval ages - there was a warm peroid during 900-1300, while 1550-1700 was the little ice age. So early on, it was possible to easily grow grapes 100s of kilometeres north of where you can currently in England. Woulda made life easier, for sure!

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    What you want to do is get a big long fucking rectangle of wool or flannel and just wrap it around your body and use a big fucking iron pin to stick it in place, then at night you unstick it and make a nest of flannel and just sleep in the dirt like a wild animal

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  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    As someone who will bitch and moan about how cold I am with my state of the art triple insulated coat, waterproof boots, and thermal gloves, I will never comprehend how people managed to do the necessary things for survival in the winter in the medieval ages, or even hunter gatherers in the Ice Age.

    No doubt they had tricks of the trade, passed down from generation to generation on ways to keep themselves warm, but I feel weak compared to them.

    Most of it involves doing heavy labor. It's amazing how much heat you can build up from working hard physically. Ever see, say, a mail carrier wearing shorts when it's barely above freezing? Just delivering the mail, not even trying to run down an elk or something to eat, works up a lot of warmth.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    As someone who will bitch and moan about how cold I am with my state of the art triple insulated coat, waterproof boots, and thermal gloves, I will never comprehend how people managed to do the necessary things for survival in the winter in the medieval ages, or even hunter gatherers in the Ice Age.

    No doubt they had tricks of the trade, passed down from generation to generation on ways to keep themselves warm, but I feel weak compared to them.

    Most of it involves doing heavy labor. It's amazing how much heat you can build up from working hard physically. Ever see, say, a mail carrier wearing shorts when it's barely above freezing? Just delivering the mail, not even trying to run down an elk or something to eat, works up a lot of warmth.

    not really, that's only peasants and only about 4-8 hours out of the day

    the more complete answer is shitloads of layers and animal skins/hair are good at keeping you warm

    also, a lot of people would still freeze to death in bad winters, particularly during the little ice age

    PiptheFair on
  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Yeah, despite what a lot of people say, the typical commoner didn't really work hard physical back breaking labor for most of human history

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I don't know about that all the Gallic slaves in my nightmarish open pit tin mine are extremely common and you bet your sweet bippy they work pretty hard, harder than me that for sure, bring me my wine!

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  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Also some getting used to temperatures and a LOT of burning wood. Forty cords of wood a year which is to say the wood you would get from clear-cutting an entire acre of forest - for a single house.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Pre Dreadnaught French battleships are rather interesting
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0p_VJmgdPs

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Broke as fuck in the style of the times. Gratitude is all that can return on your generosity.

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  • MidniteMidnite Registered User regular
    edited November 2021

    AFP wrote:
    Traczyk-Stawska was a 12-year-old girl guide when the German army invaded Poland. She joined the resistance movement and went on to carry out acts of sabotage under the sweet pseudonym of "Doughnut".

    At the outbreak of the Warsaw Uprising on August 1, 1944, she was one of 50,000 fighters to revolt against the Nazis -- as well as a rare girl with a machine gun, an assignment usually reserved for men at the time.

    Over the course of 63 days of battle, nearly 200,000 civilians and fighters died and the city was reduced to a pile of rubble.

    Traczyk-Stawska later passed through four German prisoner-of-war camps, before Polish forces operating in the Netherlands and Germany freed her from a camp in Oberlangen, northwest Germany, in 1945. Once back home, she worked as a teacher at a centre for handicapped children.

    What a goddamned legend.

    Midnite on
  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Midnite wrote: »

    AFP wrote:
    Traczyk-Stawska was a 12-year-old girl guide when the German army invaded Poland. She joined the resistance movement and went on to carry out acts of sabotage under the sweet pseudonym of "Doughnut".

    At the outbreak of the Warsaw Uprising on August 1, 1944, she was one of 50,000 fighters to revolt against the Nazis -- as well as a rare girl with a machine gun, an assignment usually reserved for men at the time.

    Over the course of 63 days of battle, nearly 200,000 civilians and fighters died and the city was reduced to a pile of rubble.

    Traczyk-Stawska later passed through four German prisoner-of-war camps, before Polish forces operating in the Netherlands and Germany freed her from a camp in Oberlangen, northwest Germany, in 1945. Once back home, she worked as a teacher at a centre for handicapped children.

    What a goddamned legend.

    Give this lady back her machine gun you cowards

  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Old Norse | Can Norwegian, Danish and Icelandic speakers understand it?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MRfVHU9fr0

    Latin Language Spoken | Can Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian speakers understand it? | #1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C77anb2DJGk

  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Hobnail wrote: »

    "We have decided to end the war. Cease all hostilities"

    "sir, I suggest we do it at 11 tomorrow since it will be 11/11 at 11. That will be hella tight."

    "very well, continue murdering each other day. Really let it rip too, fire all those guns right up to the minute."

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Midnite wrote: »

    AFP wrote:
    Traczyk-Stawska was a 12-year-old girl guide when the German army invaded Poland. She joined the resistance movement and went on to carry out acts of sabotage under the sweet pseudonym of "Doughnut".

    At the outbreak of the Warsaw Uprising on August 1, 1944, she was one of 50,000 fighters to revolt against the Nazis -- as well as a rare girl with a machine gun, an assignment usually reserved for men at the time.

    Over the course of 63 days of battle, nearly 200,000 civilians and fighters died and the city was reduced to a pile of rubble.

    Traczyk-Stawska later passed through four German prisoner-of-war camps, before Polish forces operating in the Netherlands and Germany freed her from a camp in Oberlangen, northwest Germany, in 1945. Once back home, she worked as a teacher at a centre for handicapped children.

    What a goddamned legend.

    Give this lady back her machine gun you cowards

    bold of you to assume she couldn't take it back if she wanted it

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