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On January 6th, President Donald J Trump, having lost his reelection campaign, organized a "Save America" rally in DC. At this rally, he directed the crowd of his most loyal fans to attack the Capitol building with the intent of injuring sitting congresspersons and disrupting the election certification process. This was a desperate bid to remain in power, while Trump himself went to cower in the bunker at the White House. Of note during this attack is that Trump prevented the National Guard from intervening.
138 police officers suffered injuries, with at least 15 requiring hospitalization. Of the rioters, an unknown amount were injured and at least 5 required hospitalization. One officer perished after being pepper sprayed and suffering two strokes (which demonstrates how non-lethal non-lethal methods can be). One rioter was fatally shot while climbing through a window, one died to a meth overdose, and two died due to heart related conditions.
Since this time, 684 people have been charged in relation to the coup attempt. Unfortunately, Trump and his higher ups have not and likely will never suffer any penalties for instigating this attempt to overthrow our democracy. In almost complete lock-step, the Republican party has backed Trump and refused to support an investigation into the January 6th attack on our government. This hyper-partisan behavior in response to a direct attack on our government has clearly demonstrated that the Republicans only value the end result and don't care if they get into power legitimately.
This thread is specifically focused on the coup attempt, the investigation of the coup, and other coup related topics. Some general discussions of Trump and Republican fuckery are expected, but if it veers too off topic, please take the appropriate thread or start a new one. For some specific topics:
All the Other Trump Crimes
The House, The Senate, and Congress In General
Labor and Organization Thereof
Immigration and Homeland Security
Police Brutality unless related to the coup attempt.
Social Media unless related to the coup attempt. E.g. Trump's twitter ban.
Voting Rights and the Suppression of Democrat Votes
The trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, murder
Conspiracy Theories Thread - Q Anon unless specifically related to Jan 6th.
Thanks MorganV for the missing link.
138 police officers suffered injuries, with at least 15 requiring hospitalization. Of the rioters, an unknown amount were injured and at least 5 required hospitalization. One officer perished after being pepper sprayed and suffering two strokes (which demonstrates how non-lethal non-lethal methods can be). One rioter was fatally shot while climbing through a window, one died to a meth overdose, and two died due to heart related conditions.
Since this time, 684 people have been charged in relation to the coup attempt. Unfortunately, Trump and his higher ups have not and likely will never suffer any penalties for instigating this attempt to overthrow our democracy. In almost complete lock-step, the Republican party has backed Trump and refused to support an investigation into the January 6th attack on our government. This hyper-partisan behavior in response to a direct attack on our government has clearly demonstrated that the Republicans only value the end result and don't care if they get into power legitimately.
This thread is specifically focused on the coup attempt, the investigation of the coup, and other coup related topics. Some general discussions of Trump and Republican fuckery are expected, but if it veers too off topic, please take the appropriate thread or start a new one. For some specific topics:
All the Other Trump Crimes
The House, The Senate, and Congress In General
Labor and Organization Thereof
Immigration and Homeland Security
Police Brutality unless related to the coup attempt.
Social Media unless related to the coup attempt. E.g. Trump's twitter ban.
Voting Rights and the Suppression of Democrat Votes
The trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, murder
Conspiracy Theories Thread - Q Anon unless specifically related to Jan 6th.
Thanks MorganV for the missing link.
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And keep this thread for the elephant in the room.
The elephant committing treason.
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• Ashli Babbitt, 35, died from a gunshot wound to her left shoulder
• Roseanne Boyland, 34, died of acute amphetamine intoxication
• Kevin Greeson, 55, died of hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease
• Benjamin Phillips, 50, died of hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease
If anything had broken just a bit differently on the 6th, I'm not sure it would have been walked back or fixed.
It’s a fairly common drug and extremely easy to OD on.
Little of any of this has changed, at least in a directly perceptible manner, the day-to-day of most people. What you're saying is highly plausible to me; if a coup succeeded, short of a bloodbath I don't think it would amount to greater than a blip on the radar for more Americans than we'd like to think. It feels like it would be treated with the same weight as a Jeopardy question; literally trivial as long as you can continue truckin along with your own life.
Until, of course, it was far too late.
Also extremely popular with the Nazis as a combat drug which some of these jackasses might have internalized.
(Spoiler: not actually a good idea)
Nazis, Japanese Imperial Army, the 1986 Mets, the worst of the worst
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Those were all dextroamphetamine or racemic amphetamines not methamphetamine /nitpick
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/capitol-riot-influencer-jail-white-b1949329.html
I'm just tickled that her very public bullshit came back to bite her in the ass. Like she could have, at any time, posted an apology for having made a mistake, but instead she doubled down. Judge decides her fate tomorrow.
She could have just
like
not said anything.
(Reilly works for HuffPost)
I, as a white, middle-aged, cis/het dude cannot fathom the level of privilege that it'd take to think "it'd be a good idea to write 'Definitely not going to jail. I have blonde hair, white skin, a great job, a great future, and am not going to jail. Sorry to rain on your hater parade. I did nothing wrong.' on Twitter".
Edited in quote to make it clearer who I'm referring to: the woman who Klemming is talking about, whose life was ruined because of one incredibly idiotic tweet.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html
It's a fine line to walk, yes yes, freedom of speech isn't protected on platforms, it's not freedom from consequences, don't be a racist shitbag, etc, etc.
Still not entirely comfortable with internet dogpiles that ruin people's lives over one idiotic moment.
Sure, people who are unreservedly assholes day in, day out, I can appreciate a little consequences landing once in a while as much as the next person, but still, it's a complicated thing and The Internet at large gets it wrong often enough I'm not sure it's something to encourage.
Now personally. For the rioters that entered the building and then left without committing other crimes. I think 90-120 days is more appropriate, but I’ll take 60 days.
I know plenty of folks who have done 60 days and they all say it sucks real bad. So I’ll take it. In federal court, because it’s less than a year I believe she does full freight.
I don't think there's any bargaining after conviction in the Federal system. There's no federal parole.
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Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
God I wish I could give this more than one awesome. When I was buying my house, we went to the realtor's office for paperwork and he had stacks and stacks of Scentsy boxes everywhere. "Yeah, I cant even give this shit away, do you want a wax melter thingie?"
I turned it down.
Not going to bother dodging the paywall to read the article, but: it wasn’t one stupid tweet that ruined her life.
It was participating in a fucking fascist coup that ruined her life.
The tweet just put her actions into context.
This was in reference to the lady that sent the dumb tweet joke about getting aids while traveling to Africa
You seem to have overlooked that I'm not referring to Jenna Ryan: Coup'ist.
I'm specifically referring to klemming's commentary on another woman whose life was indeed literally ruined because of one stupid tweet, and how I don't think we should be holding that up as something to aspire to, especially with how bad the internet is with misattributing things.
The URL even includes her name.
Perhaps I should have quoted Klemming. I thought that, in context, it would be clear, but didn't realize the article was paywalled so I can see how some confusion might be present, and will edit in details accordingly.
I actually typed coupists rather than compost, but I’ll let autocorrect have that one.
I would expect she'll go to a camp? I don't actually know, you can end up at a low even with 2-3 month sentences. I doubt her "I was at the capitol riot" paperwork will go over too terribly well with your average prison inmates
Normalize letting Diego get his shit together.
Laura Jedeed is an independent progressive journalist and the tweet is a thread about a random graffitti she saw, as a metaphor for how Twitter fucks people who ought to be allowed to move beyond a moment of abject stupidity.
Emphatic hell yes. The key there is that the one is just some dumb shit you said out loud near a really big mic, and the other is some shit you said about some shit you did, making it vastly more relevant.
Like that maxim existed over 20 years ago so I have no pity for idiots that don’t get it now.
Agreed, but twitter is also good at making you feel like you're only talking to your followers who understand and agree with you. It's the disconnect between these two things that catch people out.
It takes a lot of connotative dissonance to see it that way. Even not hot takes (especially from women) can invite a ocean of condemnation.