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College Football 2021: America's Most Absurd Major Sport | Week 11 Results pg 99

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular


    Just world class taunting by South Carolina.

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    that has to be on purpose, right? like that has to be the florida players just being like "today, I think not"

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    that has to be on purpose, right? like that has to be the florida players just being like "today, I think not"

    Todd Grantham was shitcanned right after this game, so

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Todd Grantham is bad at his job when it doesn't involve all in blitzes.

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    Mulletude wrote: »
    Scott Frosts buyout restructured and he fired 4 offensive coaches.

    He's officially gonna have his prove it or hit the road season in 2022

    Feels weird, like who are they going to get that's better? If a couple things had gone their way in some games, they could have wins over MSU and/or Michigan. And everyone is talking about how Frost is bringing Nebraska back.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2021
    Trajan45 wrote: »
    Mulletude wrote: »
    Scott Frosts buyout restructured and he fired 4 offensive coaches.

    He's officially gonna have his prove it or hit the road season in 2022

    Feels weird, like who are they going to get that's better? If a couple things had gone their way in some games, they could have wins over MSU and/or Michigan. And everyone is talking about how Frost is bringing Nebraska back.

    The issue is that Nebraska hasn't had the results on the field. And a lot of it is due to luck, it seems. the fullcast pointed out that they have had a lot of 50/50 calls/plays that all went against them in games that were decided by one score or less. They get all of those calls/plays and they are undefeated. They get half of those calls/plays and they are already bowl eligible. They got none of them.

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I have been listening to Split Zone Duo, and their point about that situation at Nebraska is basically, at a certain point you just have to start winning those games, it can only be bad luck for so long.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Well also they still recruit like the 7th best program in the B1G

    They have no recruiting presence in B1G states and lost their connections in Texas

    Like Frost needs to piss off the SEC by having camps in Florida or something like Harbaugh did

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Well also they still recruit like the 7th best program in the B1G

    They have no recruiting presence in B1G states and lost their connections in Texas

    Like Frost needs to piss off the SEC by having camps in Florida or something like Harbaugh did

    Coaching is nice and all, but you don't outcoach raw talent in the current environment.

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  • ani_game_bumani_game_bum Optimistic, Rule-Breaking Nice Guy The Final World/DestinationRegistered User regular
    Small programming note: The CFP rankings will come out approximately 9 PM EST tonight or whenever the Kansas/Michigan State basketball game gets done.

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    "Cincinnati doesn't belong in the Top 10 anymore." -CFP Committee, probably.

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  • MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Trajan45 wrote: »
    Mulletude wrote: »
    Scott Frosts buyout restructured and he fired 4 offensive coaches.

    He's officially gonna have his prove it or hit the road season in 2022

    Feels weird, like who are they going to get that's better? If a couple things had gone their way in some games, they could have wins over MSU and/or Michigan. And everyone is talking about how Frost is bringing Nebraska back.

    I pretty badly want Frost to succeed. But...if he has a 5th straight losing season in 2022, I couldn't defend keeping him. Nebraska already has 5 straight if you include Rileys last year.

    There are a lot of coaches out there and enough money can be a big motivator.

    My hope is he gets better O assistants and gets shit on the right track though.

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  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    "Cincinnati doesn't belong in the Top 10 anymore." -CFP Committee, probably.

    They don't even have any quality losses.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Thing I saw about Frost that seems pretty accurate is that it feels like he'd rather be clever than good. So they suck at fundamental stuff but manage a lot by being clever and tricking the opposition.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Well his trick of playing a 11th year QB still hasn’t been found out

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Lol, Michigan over MSU in the playoff rankings. Money rules all.

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    So I’ve looked everything over with the current playoff rankings, and I think I’ve settled on the final 4 at the end. Georgia, Cincy, Ohio State take the top 3, OSU knocks out the Michigan schools, Oregon loses (of course they do) and Oklahoma loses. 4th spot goes to Notre Dame. Eat at Arby’s.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    If you were curious:

    1. Georgia
    2. Alabama
    3. Oregon
    4. Ohio State
    5. Cincinnati
    6. Michigan
    7. Michigan State
    8. Oklahoma
    9. Notre Dame
    10. Oklahoma State

    More relevant rankings:
    1. Undefeated Georgia
    2. 1 loss SEC Champion
    3. 1 loss Big Ten Champion
    4. 1 loss Georgia
    5. 1 loss Oregon
    6. Undefeated Oklahoma
    7. Undefeated Cinci
    8. 1 loss Notre Dame
    9. 1 loss Big 12 Champion
    10. 2 loss Georgia/Bama
    11. 1 loss ACC Champion
    12. 2 loss Ohio State

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    Michigan over MSU is completely unjustifiable but also hilarious

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    If one of them manages to beat OSU it'll get sorted out. Until then it's all just kind of /wankingmotion. Plus we know the big bowls will take Michigan over MSU every time because merit has nothing to do with it.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Michigan over MSU is completely unjustifiable but also hilarious

    "Quality loss" *hand jerking motion*

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    It’s fine. I’m hoping for wins against PSU and Maryland and a OSU loss. That should get a good bowl game against someone that won’t crush us.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    What would have been actually funny would have been if Gary Barta had said that the Big Ten apologizing to Harbaugh was decisive.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Michigan over MSU is completely unjustifiable but also hilarious

    Committee factoring in the B1G acknowledging the refereeing bullshit (this is a shitpost comment)

    Also I’m glad we’re easing up on head to head*, for fucks sake the Jaguars beat the Bills this past weekend, sometimes football teams just have bad days (this is an earnest comment that most people think is really stupid and blasphemous)

    *it works up until the victor in a head to head consideration fucks up against Stanford or Purdue or Purdue or Purdue

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Classic Gambit.

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  • ani_game_bumani_game_bum Optimistic, Rule-Breaking Nice Guy The Final World/DestinationRegistered User regular
    A little late, but CFP & AP ranking via ESPN (spoliered for big):
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    # of Ranked Undefeated Teams: 4

    # of Ranked Top 10 One-Loss Teams: 7

    # of Week 11 head-to-head CFP ranked matchups: 4


    Random thoughts:

    - UTSA getting some recognition of their undefeated season in the CFP, albeit a week late.

    - I'm glad the AP stuck to their guns and didn't downgrade Oklahoma and Cincinnati post-CFP ranking #1.

    - As much as I like seeing Purdue ranked, I'm sure it's less for going 2-0 vs Top 3 teams and more of a combination of the upset factor, boosting up the Ohio State matchup hype, and the Committee watching games through highlights and social media.

    - There really needs to be some kind of publicly visible metric (voting points or percentage, something) that goes with the CFP Committee reasoning. But that will never happen, just venting, really.


    Personally, I don't have any illusions at this stage that ND gets in; too many things have to go right for that scenario to happen. I'll be content with the team getting into the Fiesta Bowl or whatever the at-large NY6 bowl game is this year but we'll probably end up at the Citrus Bowl or Camping World Bowl again. Pretty much going to Disney World again :razz:

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  • RELtasticRELtastic Registered User regular
    I'll come out of lurking to say, as an Oklahoma fan, my gut tells me to be frustrated that being 9-0 apparently doesn't deserve the respect that the one-loss teams are getting, while also acknowledging that we have our three toughest games ahead of us still. If we win out we're fine. We might even be able to afford a loss to Oklahoma State if we still get the Championship.

    But I get most frustrated by the inept communication of it all. They have reasons for their rankings! Just send someone out that can explain that reasoning better than Gary Barta seems to be able to, and a lot of the frustrations go away instantly.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    They've played a mid major schedule so far so get treated like a mid major. I think the computers probably think the best team they beat is the last place team in the Big Ten West.

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  • RELtasticRELtastic Registered User regular
    For sure! So far it's not an impressive schedule.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    They've played a mid major schedule so far so get treated like a mid major. I think the computers probably think the best team they beat is the last place team in the Big Ten West.

    To be fair, the computers think that team is one of the better teams in their division

  • ani_game_bumani_game_bum Optimistic, Rule-Breaking Nice Guy The Final World/DestinationRegistered User regular
    The only sin Oklahoma has committed at this point is being Notre Dame-like in playing down to the competitive level of their opponents and not fulfilling some arbitrary expectation of their talent and power (read: 4-5 Against the Spread).

    If Oklahoma wins this weekend (and keeps winning, for that matter) it will improve their stock and move the needle in their favor.

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  • RELtasticRELtastic Registered User regular
    Well, they also committed the sin of winning ugly against Kansas, and while I understand why that doesn't look good, it's frustrating that a bad win is somehow considered less important that a good loss.

    It might be more impressive to lose to Oregon than beat Kansas, but that just goes against everything my brain tells me. This is nothing against Ohio State, either. Just that only four teams get in, and so you have to compare these ridiculous things eventually. I think if they cover against Kansas, OU is in the top four right now. But they didn't and they aren't.

  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    WEEK 11: UCONN HIRES JIM MORA AND HONESTLY I CAN'T MAKE A JOKE BETTER THAN THAT

    Straight Up
    #6 Michigan (-1.5) @ Pennsylvania State - We're at the point of the calendar where all of the Big Ten's potentially good teams start to play each other. I have no idea why the conference chooses to do this, as the Playoff Committee seems to favor losing earlier in the season to losing later, but here we are. Penn State is not necessarily good but they have talent and Michigan loves to turn these games into existential nightmares for their fans.

    Air Force (-2.5) @ Colorado State - I have to assume the only reason this line is close is because Air Force has now lost two straight games as the offense has sputtered in recent weeks. Still, the opponent is Colorado State, a team that really should be firing Steve Addazio any day now (and probably sending an invoice to Urban Meyer asking for a refund).

    #16 North Carolina State @ #12 Wake Forest (-1.5) - Ahh, NC State and Wake Forest for the ACC Atlantic division title, just like we all predicted at the start of the year. Now, to be fair, neither team is guaranteed the division should they win - Clemson is still lurking with two losses and plays Wake Forest next week - but the winner will still be in the drivers seat for the rest of the season en route to a potential date with Pitt in the ACC Championship Game, which again is something we all predicted at the start of this year.

    Nevada @ #22 San Diego State (-3) - Winner of this game is in the drivers seat in the Mountain West West Division (and boy that isn't confusing to say out loud) but that's not why you're here. You're here because Matt Araiza is going to get drafted on Day 2 as a punter because he does stuff like this:



    SICKOS GAME OF THE WEEK
    Miami (-2.5) @ Florida State - The entire state of Florida is just pure sickos at this point of the season, with zero teams in the state currently in the CFP rankings (we checked, and Ohio State does not count). The whole state is backsliding into mediocrity at an astounding rate, and I honestly could not tell you who the best team in the state is at this point, so we might as well celebrate this mess by highlighting two schools that probably should be flagships for success but love to shoot themselves in the face instead, because if that isn't Florida Man I don't know what is.

    Against the Spread
    Minnesota @ #20 Iowa (-5.5) - FLOYD OF ROSEDALE! I love that I can just guess that any random Big Ten matchup will have a rivalry trophy and be right like 50% of the time at this point. Anyway, my new conspiracy theory is that Gary Barta willingly stepped up to be the CFP Commissioner and is willing to eat shit on the reg just so he can sneak Iowa in at #20 every year and no one will even bat an eye. He also tried to rank Minnesota last week so that Iowa would get a "quality win" this week but the Gophers had other plans about that.

    #25 Arkansas (-2.5) @ Louisiana State - GOLDEN BOOT! LSU is still playing out the string, but look at ranked Arkansas there! It's about time the Playoff Committee recognized the power of WHOMP.

    #11 Texas A&M (-2.5) @ #15 Mississippi - I have no idea why Ole Miss is still ranked this high, considering the last time we saw them against a good team they were being systematically decimated by Auburn, who in turn just got systematically decimated by Texas A&M last week. But at the same time, are we really willing to go all-in on Texas A&M? This is the same team that needed a lot of luck to beat Colorado and lost to Mississippi State. Can we really trust a team just because they beat a noticeably mortal Alabama thanks to their quarterback having an out-of-body experience for four quarters?

    Washington State @ #3 Oregon (-13.5) - So here's the thing: if Washington State wins this game they've basically won the Pac-12 North (they face Arizona and Washington in their final two games which, lol). Oregon, meanwhile, still has to go to Utah and then host Oregon State. If the Ducks get through this three-game stretch and then subsequently beat Utah a second time in the Pac-12 Championship, they'll deserve a playoff bid, but right now they have to focus on a Cougars team that's getting a shot at just the right time.

    Also fuck Nick Rolovich. Just saying.

    GAME OF THE CENTURY OF THE WEEK (AGAINST THE SPREAD)
    #8 Oklahoma (-5.5) @ #13 Baylor - Is it Oklahoma's fault that their conference is a train wreck? No. Is it their fault that their best win to this point is against Kansas State? Not really. Is it their fault that people are still dismissing them after watching Spencer Rattler stink the place up to start the year only for Caleb Williams to turn things around because they stopped watching midway through the Texas game? Ok maybe this one is a bit their fault yeah. Point is, Oklahoma's last three games are against the three best non-Oklahoma teams in their conference, so if there's any time for them to make up ground in the perception game, it's now. And hey, at least Baylor is coming into this with a good ranking. That might help.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    I’m really glad I wasn’t faced with the temptation to pick Purdue…although I guess they’re ranked now and their magic only works against top 5 teams when they’re unranked

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Did

    Did the CFP committee forget to rank Penn State?

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Did

    Did the CFP committee forget to rank Penn State?

    Look, the bylaws state that if you lose to Illinois then you can't be ranked for at least 4 weeks.

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    Nirya wrote: »
    #6 Michigan (-1.5) @ Pennsylvania State - Michigan loves to turn these games into existential nightmares for their fans.

    I’ve already resigned myself to a Michigan loss this weekend, a 10+ point loss to Ohio state, and a Citrus Bowl appearance featuring Michigan choking away a lead in the second half against a just-okay SEC team

    Do note that while I’m resigned to it, I’m still going to feel Emotions about it

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    PSU has no offense

    Is McCarthy cleared to go?

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