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[WH40K] In which we discuss dice crime

BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
edited April 2022 in Critical Failures
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Warhammer 40k is a futuristic tabletop strategy game created by Games Workshop that pits multiple races and factions against each other for control of the galaxy.

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The Current State of the Game

9th Edition has arrived, and with it the narrative and rules are both continuing to evolve. Primarchs are returning, old threats have arisen, and the Drukhari continue to dominate on the tabletop despite repeated sets of nerfs. This year is also turning out to be a very festive season for the other Eldar armies, with a whole month of rumours and leaks being dedicated to the forthcoming Craftworlds Codex.
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How Do I Get Started?

40k can be a daunting game for beginners. Luckily, there are now some nice places to start; the core rules are available for free, the Recruit Edition starter set is a cheap way to get enough models and extras for two people to start playing, and the Easy to Build line of models give you a cheap way to pick up models if you're interested in putting some together and painting them (or just to expand your current collection).

The Command Edition starter set is probably the best way to go if you really want to dive in, as it'll give you a full rulebook alongside two decently sized armies. It only contains Space Marine and Necron units, but if you like the look of another army you might find a Start Collecting! or Combat Patrol box for them which will give you an easy way to begin playing them. The Indomitus box set that was released last year is also phenomenally good value if you can still find it for sale somewhere.

Hold On, How Do I Choose A Faction?

The simplest answer to this question is; however you want to. You might find the look of an army appealing. Maybe you like the way that it plays. Or maybe you just want to pick up the new hotness that's currently dominating tournaments. Whatever! It's your army. Details of a lot of the factions can be found below, but you can broadly divide them into a few different groups which share traits; Imperial factions tend to be versatile and solid at everything, Chaos factions are like the Imperium except edgier, Eldar armies tend towards being glass cannons, etc. 9th edition's rules allow you to mix and match similar factions to an extent, so if, for instance, you like the look of both Space Marines and Sisters of Battle then you can run both in the same army (although they might be a bit less effective than running each individually).

But Once I've Got All This, Where Do I Find A Game?

Maybe you've got some friends who play. Maybe there's a local hobby or gaming shop in your area - if there is, odds are good that there'll be people looking for games. 40k's always been popular in tabletop crowds and 9th edition seems to have made it even easier to find games. There are also large tournaments like the Las Vegas Open and the London GT, if you fancy diving into the competitive side of the game.

Factions:
Imperium
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Adeptus Astartes (Space Marines)
- The Loyal -
They are the most powerful and dreaded of all the human warriors in the galaxy. No longer strictly human, but superhuman, superior in all respects to mere men by a harsh regime of genetic modification, psycho-conditioning and rigorous training. Few in number compared to the uncounted trillions of humanity, Space Marines are organized into small independent armies called Chapters that stand ready to lay fight wherever the Imperium needs them. Their unswerving loyalty is to the Emperor of Mankind first, their Chapter second, and none other beyond that. There are also a number of specific Chapters with notably unique traits, such as the Blood Angels (space vampires), Space Wolves (space... wolves), and the Dark Angels (unquestionably loyal).

Adeptus Custodes (Golden Space Marines)
- The Watchful -
The Emperor's personal golden army, these chaps have finally become bored of standing by a corpse for several thousand years and have instead decided to venture out into space on their own personal jetbikes. These guys are the most elite of elite armies, and are the faction you want to be taking if you want every single model in your army to outclass the strongest heroes of other factions.

Adeptus Mechanicus (01000011 01111001 01100010 01101111 01110010 01100111 00100000 01100010 01110010 01101111 01110011)
-The Ironhearted -
The Adeptus Mechanicus is a technological organisation, often known as the Priesthood of Mars. It holds a monopoly on technological knowledge in the Imperium. Their Forge Worlds turn out the Imperium's most powerful and advanced weaponry and equipment. The organisation's adepts, the Tech-priests, are vital in maintaining much of the Imperium's more technologically advanced equipment, not the least of which is the Emperor's life-sustaining Golden Throne.

Astra Militarum (Imperial Guard)
- The Dutiful -
In the midst of genetically engineered super-beings, alien killing machines, warrior mystics, and technology that approaches sorcery in its sophistication, the Imperial Guard are mere mortals. Protected by little more than faith, they contend with the most terrifying threats the darkest corners of the galaxy vomits forth armed with flesh and steel. As such it is easy to identify with these brave souls and to see in them the qualities of true heroes. Also: tanks tanks lol

Adepta Soritas (Sisters of Battle)
- The Faithful -
The darkness contained within the hearts and minds of humanity itself is a sinister and subtle threat. The heretic, mutant, and rogue psyker threaten humanity with an internal rot as damaging any xenos invasion. The Ordo Hereticus exists to seek and burn out this threat. The Sisters of Battle, empowered by their unwavering faith in the Holy Emperor of Terra, hunt the witch, the heretic, the fallen cleric, and none is permitted to escape the cleansing fire of their wrath.

Grey Knights
- The Hammer -
The Grey Knights are the amongst the most inscrutable of the Imperium's many organizations. Incorruptible, armed with the best weapons and equipment that Mankind has to offer, they are humanity's defense against the darkness of Chaos wherever it may lurk.
Chaos
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Daemons
- The Nightmares -
Lust, hate, despair, sorrow. All emotion has a reverberation within the warp, the worst, most bitterly felt, and the furthest extreme becoming strong enough to persist, coalesce, and finally, become. It was from the darkest corners of the galaxy's hearts that Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaneesh sprang forth, and they await the time when the veil against the Warp wears thin so that their warriors, spawn, and offspring can pour through.

Heretic Astartes (Chaos Space Marines)
- The Betrayers -
During the tumult of the birth of the Imperium of Man, half of the Emperor's most trusted Legions turned against him in a bitter civil war. Brother fought brother, and Mankind drove itself to the very brink of extinction. Ten thousand years after their defeat, those same traitors still launch their Black Crusades from within the Eye of Terror, their dead hearts intent upon nothing less than the utter destruction of the Imperium and the death of its weakling Emperor.
Xenos
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Asuryani (Craftworlds Eldar)
- The Dying -
An almost unimaginably ancient race who once ruled an empire spanning the galaxy. Then came the hideous time of the Fall, when the Eldar were consumed by their own decadence and nearly obliterated to the last, the few survivors scattered across the stars. Though now few in number, they are still one of the most advanced races in the galaxy. This advantage combined with the prescient abilities of their Farseers, who scry the future, guide their kin along the most favorable paths of fate, no matter what the cost to the lesser races.

Drukhari (Dark Eldar)
- The Lost-
These spawn of unquiet dreams inhabit a realm called Commorragh, a place as darkly twisted as its rulers, from which these merciless pirates launch raids across the length and breadth of the galaxy. The purpose of these raids is not to conquer planets or protect territory but to cause mayhem, steal, pillage, and – most importantly of all – capture new victims to be taken back to Commorragh for endless torture. Having fallen far into the depths of depravity, their every waking moment is dedicated to inflicting pain and suffering on the galaxy. The Dark Eldar are broadly an alliance of three loose groups; Kabals (pirate raiders), Wych Cults (drugged-up gladiators), and Haemonculus Covens (the cenobites from Hellraiser).

Harlequins
-The Laughing-
The Harlequins are the keepers of the Black Library and serve the enigmatic Eldar deity called the Laughing God. The Harlequins see no distinction between art and war, and their outlook can best be explained by reference to the legend of the Fall; one of their self-appointed duties is to keep this legend alive through their performances. The Laughing God is the only authority that the Harlequins recognise, and their every deed is thought to be in furtherance of his own inscrutable agenda. Harlequins are undeniably part of the Eldar race, yet they owe no allegiance to any given Craftworld or Kabal.

Ynnari
-The Reborn-
The Ynnari are a newly formed Eldar group that worship the God Ynnead and believe their race can be saved from the predation of Slaanesh, by helping to bring about the birth of the slumbering God of the dead. Led by Ynnead's Emissary Yvraine, the group is composed of Eldar from the Craftworlds, Corsair groups, Commorragh and even from among the Harlequins. With their combined might they have become a rising force in the galaxy, who not only seek to bring about Ynnead's birth, but also return the Eldar to the glory their race had before their Empire fell. However, the arrogant coercion they employ to save their race, has alienated as many Eldar as it has united under Yvraine's command. Worse still, many see the Ynnari as corrupted by the very daemonic forces they seek to thwart, while others believe they are already dead inside. Ynnari on the tabletop also have a hilarious history of veering wildly from being one of the most overpowered things in the game to being (currently) almost useless. Play at your own risk.

Necrons
- The Ancient -
Ancient beyond imagining even before their great sleep, the Necrons are awakening from their 60-million-year dormancy to plague the living once more. Countless thousands of immortal, soulless warriors have risen from dusty stasis-tombs, their cold wills bent on harvesting the teeming species of the galaxy. They commanded the stars long before the ancient Eldar had even begun their existence, and it is only that so few have awoken that they do not pose a greater threat in the current day.

Orks
- The Beast -
The most widespread and warlike race of aliens in the bloodstained galaxy of the 41st millennium. From the depths of the galactic core to the distant ghost-stars beyond the galactic rim, Ork empires rise, clash, fall and the remnants mixing to begin the cycle again. In terms of sheer numbers and planets, Orks occupy more of the galaxy than any other single race, and if they ever unified, they would crush all opposition the stood before them, It is to the galaxy's benefit that the orks' passion for violence is so unquenchable that they spend their entire lives embroiled in war, fighting each other as readily as any other foe.

T'au
- The Young -
Since their first contact with the Imperium in the 35th millennium, the Tau have risen from a hunter-gatherer society to a star-faring race, nibbling at the flanks of the Imperium, in less than six thousand years. Absolute obedient to the command of the enigmatic ethereal caste, the Tau believe that now is their time. It is their race and their Empire that will bring unity to the stars, all races equal, the Tau first among them. There is no foe their technology cannot overcome, no quandary their science cannot resolve, the stars and all that lies between to be joined beneath the aegis of the Greater Good.

Tyranids
- The Hungry -
Without a doubt the most alien race encountered by Humanity. They have been likened to locusts, piranhas, on a galactic scale remorselessly hungry, too numerous to destroy. Tyranids are a nomadic, space-dwelling race that emerged from the void between galaxies into our own in search of new resources to consume. These hive fleets have discovered sustenance in abundance in the forms of the myriad species of the Milky Way, leaving nothing but balls of scoured rock in the wake of their titanic swarms, tendrils boring ever deeper towards the heart of our galaxy.

Genestealer Cults
-The Insidious-
A Genestealer Cult is a xenos-worshipping secret society made up of and controlled by Tyranid Genestealers that thrives in the dark corners of the Imperial underworld across the galaxy. Secretive, stealthy, and utterly malignant, Genestealer Cults are the cankers growing unseen in the hidden spaces of Mankind's realm. Some cultists are truly monstrous, skulking along dank tunnels with robes or hessian sacks covering their hybrid xenos anatomies. Others are merely pallid and bald, able to pass for loyal Imperial citizens whilst their wyrm-form tattoos remain hidden. These latter-generation brethren mingle amongst the herd of Mankind like wolves in sheep's clothing, working so hard amongst the crumbling machineries of Human industry that none spare them a second glance -- but under their work fatigues and rough miner’s apparel, they all bear the mark of the alien.

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    https://ttcombat.com/ - terrain and miniatures
    http://www.ultraforgeminiatures.com/ If you aren't going to Avatars of War for your Fantasy needs, you damn well better be going here. Ultraforge specializes in huge, detailed models of monsters like dragons, greater daemons, and the like, and their work is second to none. They also enjoy cult popularity as the makers of an excellent set of wings that can be added to models that are in need of flight, not the least of the Hive Tyrants and Harpies.
    http://www.urbanmammoth.co.uk/ I have some of their older models for my Necromunda gangs
    http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html IG Conversion bitz from the sculptor who did those 'Spanish Inquisition' Monty Python models.
    http://www.victoryforce.com/ They have a 'Gamer Rules Lawyer' figure, and WWII re-enactors
    http://www.voodooworx.co.uk/index.htm Custom resin bases
    http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/ Not sure if these are the same guys as Wargames Factory, but if you want to 40K-ify some historical plastics.
    http://www.warmill.co.uk/storepage814911.aspx Custom clear bases, MDF terrain kits and bitz.
    http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore Makers of a variety of plastic kits, all of them competitively-priced compared to the alternatives. Foremost on the list would probably be their zombie and shock trooper kits, but they also have a variety of historical minis that could be integrated into a thematic force of some kind.
    http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/asp/nocookie.asp Lots of miniatures, but not to scale with 40K. Diverse selection, though.
    https://www.wargamestournaments.com/ Offer a good range of MDF scenery.
    http://www.warploqueminiatures.co.uk/Fantasy miniatures
    http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/ These guys have alternate-future WWII scifi stuff. Some cool mech thingies and neat troops.
    http://www.wholesale-miracle-beads.com/25mm-round-flat-back-clear-crystal-glass-cabochon-top-quality Clear glass bases for your miniatures.
    http://willy-miniatures.blogspot.com/ Fantasy Football alternate models. Some of the Undead team would look great in a Zombie Apocalypse type game.
    http://wyrd-games.net/shop/home.php Makers of Malifaux, a very cool-looking game that I unfortunately can't really afford to get into right now. But, like Hell Dorado, they have an awesome line of minis with a style all their own, slightly steampunk with a fantastic twist and some of the dark sensibilities that infuse GW's games.
    http://www.zealotminiatures.co.uk Resin miniatures and bitz, female tau heads, Space Marine scaled Guitars and bionics, etc.
    http://www.zombiesmith.com/ Zombies, survivors, and a tutorial video on "how I cast miniatures".
    http://www.zuzzy.com/ Scenery pieces and tabletops almost exclusively- and pretty nice ones, at that. If green felt isn't your thing, give this a look and see if you can't go for something more exotic; I'm told they are rather durable and quite worth the price.

    Other Places to Talk About the Game
    http://www.shiftedmatrix.com - Website owned and run by this thread's own Sharp101. It has expanded to include other contributors who are regulars in this thread. Blog posting that cover all things related to 40k and wargaming

    http://belloflostsouls.org - A great 40k (and sometimes fantasy) rumor site. They also post articles on campaigning, modeling and home made rules.

    http://www.chessex.com/ - Online custom dice store, great customer service and speed.

    http://www.warseer.com - Currently about the biggest GW-related forum on the net. Unfortunately, it has a horrible signal/noise ratio, but the rumors forums are frequently the first place to hear accurate news of upcoming products.

    http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/ - All about Space Marines and high fashion (okay, not the latter)

    http://www.the-waaagh.com - All about the orks orks orks orks! Jobs a gud'un boss.

    http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php - All things Tau in one handy place. Sign up for the greater good!

    https://www.thedarkcity.net/ - Used to be *the* Dark Eldar forum on the net. A bit less populated these days, but still a good source for discussion of the faction.

    http://www.dakkadakka.com/ - They used to be cool. Totally the place to go if you want to know why the hobby is dying. Also, a great coverage of all things wargaming.

    http://www.bartertown.com/ - The place to go when looking for like-minded people with models for trade and sale.

    Army Transports
    Because you need a way to cart all your wonderful new toys around, here are a couple recommendations beyond what you can get from GW itself:

    Sabol Army Transports - A little expensive, but I use them exclusively, because of the quite reasonable international shipping price, and mostly for the fact that you can custom cut the foam trays to fit your models. Also available from the War Store.

    Figures in Comfort - A wide range of precut foam trays, and carrying cases for whatever your needs.

    Battle Foam - Sturdy solid cases and custom cut foam tray. Pricey, but guaranteed to keep your little dudes safe and secure in transit.

    Tabletop Tyrant - A UK based company that do some nice transport cases, as well. Check them out!

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
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    Gasp Warp spider!

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Yeah, that's the Craftworld version of a Dark Eldar Shredder

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    LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    edited December 2021
    Apparently an ad went out (and was then quickly retracted) for pre-ordering "Sons of Ferus Manus" and "Sons of Fulgrim" bundles.

    The Iron hands one mentions a Dreadnaught, and I imagine it would include some Intercessors and the IH upgrade sprues. The Emperor's Children one is a little weird - technically GW still sells the two Noise Marine upgrade packs but, a) they're resin, and b) they don't really fit the modern CSM sculpts. So it's hard to see what that would have that would make it distinctly EC... unless there's new upgrade sprues coming with the Chaos releases.

    (None of the rumours mentioned them though, and I guess it could just be like: the one Noise Marine sculpt + CSMs + Havocs).

    Edit: Apparently the Iron Hands bundle is Combat Patrol Space Marines + IH Upgrade Pack + Iron Father Feirros + Ironclad Dreadnaught for £160. (Which is a bit silly, as the Combat Patrol contains mono-pose Infiltrators, Eliminators, and Supressors who all can't use the upgrade pack.)

    The EC one is Start Collecting: CSM + Chaos Lord + CSM + Hellbrute + Noise Marine Upgrade Pack. Which seems like a very solid army, but as said the Noise Marine resin bits are a little rough. (Especially the torso piece, which is basically useless.)

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    KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    edited December 2021
    I saw a clip of that image and it had the new csm marine sculpts. Could be an indication a new noise marine upgrade sculpt is on the way.

    As popular as EC is you'd think they'd have released one ages ago.

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    KhraulKhraul Registered User regular
    Nope. Just a pic of the old resin upgrade kit.

    A link to these was floating in my email and the links still worked.
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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I have been approved as an official Warhammer Alliance school for my board game club. GW is shipping me free models and paints. Now to see how many students are interested in learning the hobby and game.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited December 2021
    This feels like a terrible burn as an EC player.

    Noise marine kits are horrible.

    GIVE ME UPDATED KITS AND YOU CAN MY FIRST BORN!

    Edit:

    That is the shitty kit of the two with only a single gun of each type. Jesus GW. At least use the kit that lets you build a full squad.

    AND THERE ARE NO SAVINGS!

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    novaspikenovaspike Registered User regular
    Responding to secondaries comment in the old thread: I saw the changes for 2022, one of the reasons I'm moving away from ROD/engage. Behind enemy lines and teleport homers didn't change (small change in homers that troops can score the same turn they start the action, but I'll stick with the character protection for now to see how it works).

    For the future-proofing, I'm just not sure how they'll handle the 4 gods in the 9th daemons codex. The closest style codex would be drukhari, since that's essentially three mini-armies in one. And they changed it so you have to build seperate detachments (but not be CP penalized through raiding forces/realspace raid).

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    TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    This feels like a terrible burn as an EC player.

    Noise marine kits are horrible.

    GIVE ME UPDATED KITS AND YOU CAN MY FIRST BORN!

    Edit:

    That is the shitty kit of the two with only a single gun of each type. Jesus GW. At least use the kit that lets you build a full squad.

    AND THERE ARE NO SAVINGS!

    They've done this before. Think of it less as a deal and more of a themed bundle.


    I'm not saying it's a good bundle.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I am fully back on this wagon. Something I thought I'd never say again, my Forgeworld order arrived. For Aeronautica Imperialis I got some Arvus Lighters (I love these little suckers and have a 40k scale one), a pair of Vulture Gunships (also have a 40k one), and the Ork Mega Bommer.

    I initially thought it wasn't that big but then got a normal Ork bommer and the middle fuselage of the mega bommer is almost as long as the entire normal bommer.

    Forgeworld gives you way more print material than in the old days. You used to kinda half to figure out how the model went together yourself, these came with full color building instructions!

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    Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    Wish you were near Chicago - we could make zooming noises as our 40k scale flyers zipped around each other.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    I am fully back on this wagon. Something I thought I'd never say again, my Forgeworld order arrived. For Aeronautica Imperialis I got some Arvus Lighters (I love these little suckers and have a 40k scale one), a pair of Vulture Gunships (also have a 40k one), and the Ork Mega Bommer.

    I initially thought it wasn't that big but then got a normal Ork bommer and the middle fuselage of the mega bommer is almost as long as the entire normal bommer.

    Forgeworld gives you way more print material than in the old days. You used to kinda half to figure out how the model went together yourself, these came with full color building instructions!

    Only some things. I built a contemptor recently, no instructions at all.

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    Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    Forge world has gotten a -lot- better at buildability and instructions over the years.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I have a contemptor the chest has a huge block of extra casting I need a saw for so that's why I have never built it.
    I also have two Phoenix bombers that I didn't build because I just lacked the room to build them and to store them but they did have a sheet of paper instruction

    I still make fun of the fact of my ugly falling out of the hobby and how I came back was WTF are the Ynnari
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    Exodites would require a full book/ line like Drukhari.

    Harlies make sense because their line is tiny (1 infantry, 1 jetbike unit, a handful of vehicles, and like 3 characters) so it's dumb not putting them in.
    I agree as the harlequins are more lore than models the Ynnari are a pamphlet
    I am very curious about the corsair rules if they are really in this book just the exodites are more of an in-between of a full codex and something like the harlequin more in line with the harlequin though. Even if it's dino riding models or such. My brother is doing his Biel Tan force as being reenforced by exodites
    Just one of my hopes for the harlequin codex is the Veiled Path have more to them than dice rerolls and you don't feel forced to play the frozen stars {I know the later is favored for both it's playability and ease of paint {black n white}

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Another thing I thought of I want the new guardians to have that look like the kabal troops with the undersuit and the armor plates that go over
    So something like how it looked in dawn of war
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    daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    This feels like a terrible burn as an EC player.

    Noise marine kits are horrible.

    GIVE ME UPDATED KITS AND YOU CAN MY FIRST BORN!

    Edit:

    That is the shitty kit of the two with only a single gun of each type. Jesus GW. At least use the kit that lets you build a full squad.

    AND THERE ARE NO SAVINGS!

    And the models in the pictures are all done up as Black Legion.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
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    It seems the Female Auratch uses the helm from one of the older ones
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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    If they just do a plastic copy of that one that would be weird.

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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    If they just do a plastic copy of that one that would be weird.

    That model's actually a conversion, so they wouldn't just be rereleasing an old model. I'm pretty sure GW haven't ever actually released any female HQ models for Craftworld Eldar aside from Jain.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Still I am curious if the auratch uses the rule of three again {how they get around the helm and what they are armed with} As it would be neat if they brought back the warp pack

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    edited December 2021
    Burnage wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    If they just do a plastic copy of that one that would be weird.

    That model's actually a conversion, so they wouldn't just be rereleasing an old model. I'm pretty sure GW haven't ever actually released any female HQ models for Craftworld Eldar aside from Jain.

    Ah, okay. You're right. It's the current plastic autarch with new chest and the helmet is from this one
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    Ynnari rumours are out. Biggest change is probably that you can't have more drukhari than craftworld units in a ynnari army.

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Playing my first Custodes game tonight. It's intimidating to take a new, completely fresh, army out. So many things to remember. I made myself a cheat sheet but I'm sure I'll forget things.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Playing my first Custodes game tonight. It's intimidating to take a new, completely fresh, army out. So many things to remember. I made myself a cheat sheet but I'm sure I'll forget things.

    And even more since it all changes in like a week.

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Playing my first Custodes game tonight. It's intimidating to take a new, completely fresh, army out. So many things to remember. I made myself a cheat sheet but I'm sure I'll forget things.

    And even more since it all changes in like a week.

    A few weeks. Custodes/GSC codexes got delayed in to 2022.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Playing my first Custodes game tonight. It's intimidating to take a new, completely fresh, army out. So many things to remember. I made myself a cheat sheet but I'm sure I'll forget things.

    And even more since it all changes in like a week.

    A few weeks. Custodes/GSC codexes got delayed in to 2022.

    I know. Its killing me. I am getting GSC half of shadow throne. But at the same time I am not buying more till I get a GSC codex in my hands.

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    Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    I finally spent some time calculating out the savings of the new Xmas Astartes shieldbreaker box, compared to the combat patrol boxes.

    It’s roughly the same value as the generic Space Marine combat patrol or the Blood Angel combat patrol, and better value than the other chapters.

    Then out of curiosity I priced out the Astartes half of Indomitus and that was some insane value, roughly the same discount as a combat patrol box, and then throw in all the necron half for free.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    If they just do a plastic copy of that one that would be weird.

    That model's actually a conversion, so they wouldn't just be rereleasing an old model. I'm pretty sure GW haven't ever actually released any female HQ models for Craftworld Eldar aside from Jain.

    Ah, okay. You're right. It's the current plastic autarch with new chest and the helmet is from this one


    Ynnari rumours are out. Biggest change is probably that you can't have more drukhari than craftworld units in a ynnari army.

    Where is this as I have heard nor read any ynnari rumors
    I know sadly most of the ynnari armies I play are drukhari heavy. I know in the lore Vect has been purging them

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    I finally spent some time calculating out the savings of the new Xmas Astartes shieldbreaker box, compared to the combat patrol boxes.

    It’s roughly the same value as the generic Space Marine combat patrol or the Blood Angel combat patrol, and better value than the other chapters.

    Then out of curiosity I priced out the Astartes half of Indomitus and that was some insane value, roughly the same discount as a combat patrol box, and then throw in all the necron half for free.

    https://spikeybits.com/2021/12/all-the-new-aos-40k-christmas-battleforces-new-releases.html

    spikeybits does it whenever a new box set is announced, if you can sift through their terrible clickbait 'articles'

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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    If they just do a plastic copy of that one that would be weird.

    That model's actually a conversion, so they wouldn't just be rereleasing an old model. I'm pretty sure GW haven't ever actually released any female HQ models for Craftworld Eldar aside from Jain.

    Ah, okay. You're right. It's the current plastic autarch with new chest and the helmet is from this one


    Ynnari rumours are out. Biggest change is probably that you can't have more drukhari than craftworld units in a ynnari army.

    Where is this as I have heard nor read any ynnari rumors
    I know sadly most of the ynnari armies I play are drukhari heavy. I know in the lore Vect has been purging them
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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Played a thousand points tonight against Drukhari. Let me tell you, Custodes, hard to kill. Drukhari? Good at killing. I made a couple tactical errors, but the middle section of the game really came down to me rolling grips and grips of 1s, 2s on saves. Sometimes the dice giveth, sometimes they taketh away.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Played a thousand points tonight against Drukhari. Let me tell you, Custodes, hard to kill. Drukhari? Good at killing. I made a couple tactical errors, but the middle section of the game really came down to me rolling grips and grips of 1s, 2s on saves. Sometimes the dice giveth, sometimes they taketh away.

    i went 0-3 at last weekend's RTT with death guard due to the worst sting of dice rolls i've ever seen

    like failing to inflict a single wound in a round where i fired 80 shots

    or failing multiple 4" charges

    or failing to hit a single thing with my plagueburst crawlers for a combined 8-9 turns

    i may have bought new dice

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    And today's rumour
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    the example they give seems very poor because why would you want to roll a six on morale?
    Also an average of 1/6 of your fate dice would be completely useless because they would allow you to replace a six with a six?

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I kind of not believe the discord leaks as that person did say they might not make it to final release
    I do kind of do 1 for 1 in an ynnari force as a farseer is a must but I have done weird armies like wraithguard lead by spiritseers with wyches
    But another army I played back in 8th was a farseer, dire avengers, 20 wyches and 5 incubi riding around in a venom {I used to have the farseer ride around it when they were able to}

    Dark Reaper!
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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    edited December 2021
    So confirmed are basically

    Warp Spiders
    Rangers
    Dark Reapers
    Autarch
    Jetbike (Spears of Khaine or new Ranger unit)
    And maybe the Avatar from a Rumour Engine earlier this year

    although technically the guns could also both be part of an Autarch kit

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    Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    edited December 2021
    honovere wrote: »
    And today's rumour
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    the example they give seems very poor because why would you want to roll a six on morale?
    Also an average of 1/6 of your fate dice would be completely useless because they would allow you to replace a six with a six?

    If it simply lets you choose the new dice facing, then the 6’s become useful for morale checks I would guess.

    Also possibly vehicle explosions etc? I forget how that works in 40K

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    Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    I'd assume a major aim of an updated eldar release of this size would be to get everything into plastic which isn't already, I'd be a little disappointed to wait so long for new models only to have half the aspects still stuck as resin. But on the other hand that also means there probably wouldn't be too many 'new' new units released, which might be disappointing too! Though I could see them holding back one or two of the aspects to release as filler weeks or as part of boxed sets later down the line.

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    Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I finally spent some time calculating out the savings of the new Xmas Astartes shieldbreaker box, compared to the combat patrol boxes.

    It’s roughly the same value as the generic Space Marine combat patrol or the Blood Angel combat patrol, and better value than the other chapters.

    Then out of curiosity I priced out the Astartes half of Indomitus and that was some insane value, roughly the same discount as a combat patrol box, and then throw in all the necron half for free.

    https://spikeybits.com/2021/12/all-the-new-aos-40k-christmas-battleforces-new-releases.html

    spikeybits does it whenever a new box set is announced, if you can sift through their terrible clickbait 'articles'

    Not bad, but they are extremely barebones.

    Not so good at showing comparitive savings, and not even breaking down if the units are currently valuable or not in the meta

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    daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I finally spent some time calculating out the savings of the new Xmas Astartes shieldbreaker box, compared to the combat patrol boxes.

    It’s roughly the same value as the generic Space Marine combat patrol or the Blood Angel combat patrol, and better value than the other chapters.

    Then out of curiosity I priced out the Astartes half of Indomitus and that was some insane value, roughly the same discount as a combat patrol box, and then throw in all the necron half for free.

    https://spikeybits.com/2021/12/all-the-new-aos-40k-christmas-battleforces-new-releases.html

    spikeybits does it whenever a new box set is announced, if you can sift through their terrible clickbait 'articles'

    Not bad, but they are extremely barebones.

    Not so good at showing comparitive savings, and not even breaking down if the units are currently valuable or not in the meta

    Goonhammer has a similar article up.

    https://www.goonhammer.com/rating-the-2021-warhammer-40k-battleforce-boxes/

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I'd assume a major aim of an updated eldar release of this size would be to get everything into plastic which isn't already, I'd be a little disappointed to wait so long for new models only to have half the aspects still stuck as resin. But on the other hand that also means there probably wouldn't be too many 'new' new units released, which might be disappointing too! Though I could see them holding back one or two of the aspects to release as filler weeks or as part of boxed sets later down the line.

    Really I expected a trickle of releases of them as much of the craftworld army is what it was when i started mine an epoch ago

    I am curious how much of the eldar are still Jes Goodwin's thing

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