Also, Marines largely didn’t change aside from whatever gubbins were on their armour for like… two decades until Primaris? And even that was just lengthening the legs and arms for better proportions.
When the plastic multipart kit dropped at the dawn of 3rd edition (I wanna say 1999 or 2000?) the backpacks and bolters saw a pretty noticeable overhaul and marines stopped having gemstones on their chests but otherwise yeah. 3rd marked the pivot to exponential grimdarkening that's still playing out today. Black undercoats became more common and bases started to shift away from Goblin Green around this time as well.
I used to scoff at the aesthetics of the 80s and 90s stuff when the 00s rolled around. I've since come around and I deeply regret getting rid of my old stuff when I did. I've stopped tracking the amount of money I've spent recently trying to get that vibe back because I don't want to see the number and get depressed.
This 1994 paint set is just the tip of the iceberg. I've gotten my hands on (or have in transit) some stuff.
Excluding dry brushes, giant brushes, and like ultra-fine stuff. What size brushes would you recommend having on hand?
Edit: Should have refreshed before asking, I guess. Should I have a 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4. Or would like a 0, 2, and 4 suffice? NGL these Windsors are pricey.
Also, Marines largely didn’t change aside from whatever gubbins were on their armour for like… two decades until Primaris? And even that was just lengthening the legs and arms for better proportions.
When the plastic multipart kit dropped at the dawn of 3rd edition (I wanna say 1999 or 2000?) the backpacks and bolters saw a pretty noticeable overhaul and marines stopped having gemstones on their chests but otherwise yeah. 3rd marked the pivot to exponential grimdarkening that's still playing out today. Black undercoats became more common and bases started to shift away from Goblin Green around this time as well.
I used to scoff at the aesthetics of the 80s and 90s stuff when the 00s rolled around. I've since come around and I deeply regret getting rid of my old stuff when I did. I've stopped tracking the amount of money I've spent recently trying to get that vibe back because I don't want to see the number and get depressed.
This 1994 paint set is just the tip of the iceberg. I've gotten my hands on (or have in transit) some stuff.
I love looking at the old 2nd edition 40K White Dwarf battle reports; everything is just more colourful and joyous and goofy. Also much easier to follow. Something that I don't think current White Dwarf manages.
I find the old minis have a charm to them that the new ones don’t
Which isn’t to say they are better, but what the models lacked in details they more than made up for in character
Yeah they are objectively not better. So many advances have been made in sculpting and materials in the intervening decades that there's just no comparison. What we get today are truly amazing from a technical standpoint.
But they do lack charm and character and tend to be overdone with detailing to the point of being exhausting to paint.
NipsHe/HimLuxuriating in existential crisis.Registered Userregular
edited December 2021
I seriously looked at the Cursed City reprint announcement, thought "Goddamm that's cool, I wish I'd gotten that".
Then I looked at the models again, and had the second thought "Goddamn that looks like it'd take me an actual eternity to paint."
I actually felt exhaustion conceiving the amount of work it would take. I get this a lot when looking at GW's stuff, which I'm usually spying 40k things, but this was on a new level.
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
The top thing is a chaos beast? from Warhammer with lazy dry painting mostly
The bottom image has two Ghuls? from Warhammer Blackstone Fortress, a Reaper scarecrow lady, and a character from Guild Ball's Farmers Guild team. They were used for a Halloween d&d one-shot
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VanguardBut now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
Cursed city is actually quick to paint
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AthenorBattle Hardened OptimistThe Skies of HiigaraRegistered Userregular
I haven't painted any minis in a year, and most of my hobby stuff has fallen to the wayside this year (especially the back half as I've been focusing on myself).
I decided to splurge for Christmas and get my bro a Vortex Mixer for his mini painting. This is a piece of lab equipment designed to stir test tubes. It's fairly pricey, so of course I got 2 of them because I hate stirring paints and that was one of the things keeping me back from painting.
I seriously looked at the Cursed City reprint announcement, thought "Goddamm that's cool, I wish I'd gotten that".
Then I looked at the models again, and had the second thought "Goddamn that looks like it'd take me an actual eternity to paint."
I actually felt exhaustion conceiving the amount of work it would take. I get this a lot when looking at GW's stuff, which I'm usually spying 40k things, but this was on a new level.
Funnily enough the only stuff which felt like a drag to paint in CC were the basic zombie mooks, who do have a lot of detail going on for, well, basic zombie mooks. Probably helps that a lot of the villains, and some of the heroes, are all gritty and grimy, so you can be a bit messy without anyone noticing!
Tri-Optimum reminds you that there are only one-hundred-sixty-three shopping days until Christmas. Just 1 extra work cycle twice a week will give you the spending money you need to make this holiday a very special one.
Keen, I say this with utmost respect and care - it looks like you've embarked on a dangerous path... I think hunting down vintage 40k can be potentially bankrupting )
I totally agree with you guys regarding new models - in most cases they're better technically but lack the charm.
In the example of the primaris - Add much better proportions to the original marines. Now take everything that made them cool and rich and... throw it away. You used to have tens of different heads, torsos, legs - now everybody looks exactly the same. WHY would that be a good idea?
I think the previous vs newest horrors are the strongest example of a downgrade - but maybe it's because I love the metal ones so goddamn much.
Thankfully in many cases the newer models are an all-around upgrade, like the new CSM.
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Dr_KeenbeanDumb as a buttPlanet Express ShipRegistered Userregular
Keen, I say this with utmost respect and care - it looks like you've embarked on a dangerous path... I think hunting down vintage 40k can be potentially bankrupting )
Embarked on? Motherfucker, I paved it.
Once some more stuff makes its way to me, I'll take some more photos and you'll damn well believe I'd bought a time machine (which probably would have cost less).
Luckily for me I have very specific collection targets and I've largely accomplished them at this point.
Alright then, awesome for you and I can't wait to see what you do with it.
At one point I was struck with the desire to start collecting all the vintage chaos Marines because of how insanely weird they were (mushroom body anyone?). Thankfully I came to my senses some 30 minutes later but I gotta tell you I was on the brink of greatness.
Something from me tonight, first off - Amallyn. I don't much care for the pose, but the model was pretty straightforward and I was cool with just copying the GW scheme as much as I could, so that was relaxing.
And now for something completely different, my 6yo daughter expressed interest in painting and wanted to try her hands on an ork boy. So this is something she painted 100% by herself, under my guidance.
Something from me tonight, first off - Amallyn. I don't much care for the pose, but the model was pretty straightforward and I was cool with just copying the GW scheme as much as I could, so that was relaxing.
And now for something completely different, my 6yo daughter expressed interest in painting and wanted to try her hands on an ork boy. So this is something she painted 100% by herself, under my guidance.
Wow I love those colors.
If, if Reagan played disco He'd shoot it to shit You can't disco in Jackboots
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
edited December 2021
I have been working on genestealers more recently. Colors remain tough for me, though I've been using a color wheel for overall plans ... Just bad at ending up with a realistic combination of colors. The dude in the middle is WIP and kind of an attempt to get the colors to work in a way that will be repeated over and over.
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Grudgeblessed is the mind too small for doubtRegistered Userregular
Nice! The Space Marine Paint Set was the first Citadel paints I got (before that I used to paint with Humbrol enamels). Good times. Gotta love that oldschool orange Blood Angel red and the Salamander Black.
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H3KnucklesBut we decide which is rightand which is an illusion.Registered Userregular
Black ultramarine with yellow markings is a rad colour theme.
Edit: although that might be a very dark blue, too? Anyway, looks good.
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Dr_KeenbeanDumb as a buttPlanet Express ShipRegistered Userregular
I opened it. Shockingly there was almost no separation and giving them all a good shake they still sound liquid. I'm most surprised that the Boltgun Metal may have survived. The metallics are the ones that tend to go bad after decades.
The old-school gw paints were basically indestructible. I've got pots that are like 25 years old and still kicking.
I put models on Instagram now: asher_paints
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NipsHe/HimLuxuriating in existential crisis.Registered Userregular
edited January 2022
Is it possible to have nostalgia for something you never personally experienced? 'Cause Keen's posts are giving me that.
In other discussion topics, what are y'all using for wet palette parchment? I've become dissatisfied with my grocery store kitchen brand options, and would like to graduate up to something a little more "artsy" for miniature painting.
This year gone I've mostly been painting MCP and I have been woefully behind in posting pictures of it anywhere, so lets fix that:
Mister Doctor Strange
And the Cape of Levitation
Cage fighter extraordinaire, Wong
Captain Marvel, ready to give someone the Danvers Special
Hood, one of my favourite criminal shitheads
His ... darker side.
And Omega Red, the most 90s Wolverine Villain
Kek, that's just the Polish word for turquoise - I didn't have enough space on the paper to fit the English name. Enjoy!
Oh, it wasnt' the color names that confused me (although the mix of Polish and English was an interesting choice), it's the numbered diagrams I couldn't make heads or tails of.
@Dr_Keenbean : What's your thing with the old paints, anyway? Why not use the modern stuff? Genuine question. There's a million manufacturers; surely some of them make decent paint?
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When the plastic multipart kit dropped at the dawn of 3rd edition (I wanna say 1999 or 2000?) the backpacks and bolters saw a pretty noticeable overhaul and marines stopped having gemstones on their chests but otherwise yeah. 3rd marked the pivot to exponential grimdarkening that's still playing out today. Black undercoats became more common and bases started to shift away from Goblin Green around this time as well.
I used to scoff at the aesthetics of the 80s and 90s stuff when the 00s rolled around. I've since come around and I deeply regret getting rid of my old stuff when I did. I've stopped tracking the amount of money I've spent recently trying to get that vibe back because I don't want to see the number and get depressed.
This 1994 paint set is just the tip of the iceberg. I've gotten my hands on (or have in transit) some stuff.
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Which isn’t to say they are better, but what the models lacked in details they more than made up for in character
I was recently gifted these. Working great for minis! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HCY7Q9D/?coliid=I3NHGNU1U9K2AI&colid=20Q4X3AKK6JDX&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Nice to have some cheapo brushes
I love looking at the old 2nd edition 40K White Dwarf battle reports; everything is just more colourful and joyous and goofy. Also much easier to follow. Something that I don't think current White Dwarf manages.
Yeah they are objectively not better. So many advances have been made in sculpting and materials in the intervening decades that there's just no comparison. What we get today are truly amazing from a technical standpoint.
But they do lack charm and character and tend to be overdone with detailing to the point of being exhausting to paint.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
Then I looked at the models again, and had the second thought "Goddamn that looks like it'd take me an actual eternity to paint."
I actually felt exhaustion conceiving the amount of work it would take. I get this a lot when looking at GW's stuff, which I'm usually spying 40k things, but this was on a new level.
The top thing is a chaos beast? from Warhammer with lazy dry painting mostly
The bottom image has two Ghuls? from Warhammer Blackstone Fortress, a Reaper scarecrow lady, and a character from Guild Ball's Farmers Guild team. They were used for a Halloween d&d one-shot
I decided to splurge for Christmas and get my bro a Vortex Mixer for his mini painting. This is a piece of lab equipment designed to stir test tubes. It's fairly pricey, so of course I got 2 of them because I hate stirring paints and that was one of the things keeping me back from painting.
It's so much fun!
Funnily enough the only stuff which felt like a drag to paint in CC were the basic zombie mooks, who do have a lot of detail going on for, well, basic zombie mooks. Probably helps that a lot of the villains, and some of the heroes, are all gritty and grimy, so you can be a bit messy without anyone noticing!
Keen, I say this with utmost respect and care - it looks like you've embarked on a dangerous path... I think hunting down vintage 40k can be potentially bankrupting
I totally agree with you guys regarding new models - in most cases they're better technically but lack the charm.
In the example of the primaris - Add much better proportions to the original marines. Now take everything that made them cool and rich and... throw it away. You used to have tens of different heads, torsos, legs - now everybody looks exactly the same. WHY would that be a good idea?
I think the previous vs newest horrors are the strongest example of a downgrade - but maybe it's because I love the metal ones so goddamn much.
Thankfully in many cases the newer models are an all-around upgrade, like the new CSM.
Embarked on? Motherfucker, I paved it.
Once some more stuff makes its way to me, I'll take some more photos and you'll damn well believe I'd bought a time machine (which probably would have cost less).
Luckily for me I have very specific collection targets and I've largely accomplished them at this point.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
At one point I was struck with the desire to start collecting all the vintage chaos Marines because of how insanely weird they were (mushroom body anyone?). Thankfully I came to my senses some 30 minutes later but I gotta tell you I was on the brink of greatness.
Also, "Olive Drab" continues to be a maddening concept. No wonder scale modelers all lose their minds as they get older.
Something from me tonight, first off - Amallyn. I don't much care for the pose, but the model was pretty straightforward and I was cool with just copying the GW scheme as much as I could, so that was relaxing.
And now for something completely different, my 6yo daughter expressed interest in painting and wanted to try her hands on an ork boy. So this is something she painted 100% by herself, under my guidance.
Wow I love those colors.
WIP from the last model I will finish this year
Sure hope the paint's still good!
Still waiting on my sealed Ork & Eldar set to arrive from Paris.
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Huh, I did not know the Emperor was a gold-skinned orc/minotaur hybrid. You'd think that would come up more often.
Edit: although that might be a very dark blue, too? Anyway, looks good.
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DropBox invite link - get 500MB extra free.
In other discussion topics, what are y'all using for wet palette parchment? I've become dissatisfied with my grocery store kitchen brand options, and would like to graduate up to something a little more "artsy" for miniature painting.
How's that for artsy?
Mister Doctor Strange
And the Cape of Levitation
Cage fighter extraordinaire, Wong
Captain Marvel, ready to give someone the Danvers Special
Hood, one of my favourite criminal shitheads
His ... darker side.
And Omega Red, the most 90s Wolverine Villain
Which, based on the results, seem to be working.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
Oh, it wasnt' the color names that confused me (although the mix of Polish and English was an interesting choice), it's the numbered diagrams I couldn't make heads or tails of.