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The Oscars are pointless, but fun to discuss

PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, manAh, jeezRegistered User regular
edited March 2008 in Social Entropy++
Yes, yes, the Oscars are largely meaningless, and often celebrate mediocrity (Looking at you, Crash). But they are still handy as a jumping off point for movie discussion. So let's talk Oscar.

A list of nominees can be found here.

This year's nominations are actually pretty good, for the most part. There are some that irk me (Lars and the Real Girl under best original screenplay? Seriously?), but I can see why most stuff is up there.

That said, maaaaaan did Atonement get nominated for way more than it should have. Cinematography, sound design, and soundtrack - those are all great. By all means, nominate away. But nominating its screenplay is a fucking joke, and I would personally come nowhere near considering it Top 5 material.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm actually happy at the possibility that the Hollywood fellatio-fest might be canceled.

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    PotUPotU __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
    Fälscher, Die (2007)(Austria)

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    mcpmcp Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    I'm actually happy at the possibility that the Hollywood fellatio-fest might be canceled.
    It would be the best thing.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I could do without any awards shows, in fact.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Oscars ain't the main Hollywood circlejerk.

    That'd be the SAG awards.

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    There Will Be Blood better win a bunch. Also, if there is a ceremony, i hope they do that thing where the nominated original songs are performed, because having three of the songs be from Enchanted is super.

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    naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    DDL for all awards.

    Even ones like "Best Animated Short, Foreign".

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Oscars ain't the main Hollywood circlejerk.

    That'd be the SAG awards.

    FAG is more of a circlejerk but the Oscars are a bigger circlejerk. Ignoring the FAG awards is much easier.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    naporeon wrote: »
    DDL for all awards.

    Even ones like "Best Animated Short, Foreign".

    I can totally support that.

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    PotUPotU __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Oscars ain't the main Hollywood circlejerk.

    That'd be the SAG awards.

    AVN awards

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    mcpmcp Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Speaking of stupid Hollywood shit, Angelina Jolie going to Iraq is a non fucking story god damn it.

    Oh, thanks for giving us the 411, Angie. I didn't know Iraq was a cluster fuck until you went there, and did interviews about what you saw.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

    It is a strong contender for my favorite movie ever.

    But in the spirit of full disclosure, my previous favorite movie ever was Punch-Drunk Love.

    I'd basically suck P.T. Anderson's dick, is what I'm saying here.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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    naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    DDL for all awards.

    Even ones like "Best Animated Short, Foreign".

    I can totally support that.
    "The Oscars for Best Achievement in Visual Effects, Best Achievement in Sound Editing, and Best Feature-length Documentary all go to...Daniel Day Lewis?"

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

    It is a strong contender for my favorite movie ever.

    But in the spirit of full disclosure, my previous favorite movie ever was Punch-Drunk Love.

    I'd basically suck P.T. Anderson's dick, is what I'm saying here.

    I never saw that but that's quite astonishing, Poor.

    I guess we all have our guilty pleasures.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    naporeon wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    DDL for all awards.

    Even ones like "Best Animated Short, Foreign".

    I can totally support that.
    "The Oscars for Best Achievement in Visual Effects, Best Achievement in Sound Editing, and Best Feature-length Documentary all go to...Daniel Day Lewis?"

    I'LL DRINK IT

    I'LL DRINK IT RIGHT UP

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    mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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    best supporting actor ever

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    naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    mrpaku wrote: »
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    best supporting actor ever
    See, the thing is...it's kind of hard to say that he's genuinely a supporting actor in that film.

    But "supporting actor" will forever be a very muddy field.

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    mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    i agree

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Ratatouille did not get an oscar nomination for best picture even though it was more critically acclaimed than any of the nominees

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    naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Hahahaha...Shoe.

    I love you, but sometimes you will post a truly enormous shitpile of wrongness.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I like watching the Oscars even though they are pretty meaningless

    the montages are pretty well put together

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »
    Ratatouille did not get an oscar nomination for best picture even though it was more critically acclaimed than any of the nominees

    shut up

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

    It is a strong contender for my favorite movie ever.

    But in the spirit of full disclosure, my previous favorite movie ever was Punch-Drunk Love.

    I'd basically suck P.T. Anderson's dick, is what I'm saying here.

    I never saw that but that's quite astonishing, Poor.

    I guess we all have our guilty pleasures.

    What? Why is it astonishing?

    Yeah, the movie has Adam Sandler, but it is in absolutely no way an Adam Sandler movie. It's a P.T. Anderson, through and trough.

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    Something WittySomething Witty Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Ratatoille bored me, it looks great but it was just so dull. I still need to see There Will Be Blood and No Country For Old Men, those look amazing.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »
    Ratatouille did not get an oscar nomination for best picture even though it was more critically acclaimed than any of the nominees

    shut up

    no, you shut up

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Centipede Damascus wrote: »
    I like watching the Oscars even though they are pretty meaningless

    the montages are pretty well put together

    Hopefully, they will have a montage dedicated to Heath Ledger. Don't they do that whenever someone major dies? It'll be weird to see hwo they splice it, scenes from Ten Things I Hate About You right next to Brokeback and all.

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    naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

    It is a strong contender for my favorite movie ever.

    But in the spirit of full disclosure, my previous favorite movie ever was Punch-Drunk Love.

    I'd basically suck P.T. Anderson's dick, is what I'm saying here.

    I never saw that but that's quite astonishing, Poor.

    I guess we all have our guilty pleasures.

    What? Why is it astonishing?

    Yeah, the movie has Adam Sandler, but it is in absolutely no way an Adam Sandler movie. It's a P.T. Anderson, through and trough.
    Yes, but you also think that Brad Pitt is a good actor.

    This is very convenient for me when I wish to reconcile things internally when we disagree on something.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I mean I guess metacritic is lying to me so I must be wrong

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

    It is a strong contender for my favorite movie ever.

    But in the spirit of full disclosure, my previous favorite movie ever was Punch-Drunk Love.

    I'd basically suck P.T. Anderson's dick, is what I'm saying here.

    I never saw that but that's quite astonishing, Poor.

    I guess we all have our guilty pleasures.

    What? Why is it astonishing?

    Yeah, the movie has Adam Sandler, but it is in absolutely no way an Adam Sandler movie. It's a P.T. Anderson, through and trough.

    What is your opinion on Magnolia?

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I mean Beauty And The Beast got nominated in 1991 so there's a precedent here

    not my fault if the academy doesn't have the balls to nominate an animated film anymore

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited February 2008
    man ain't no

    man

    ratatouille best picture

    dang what

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    naporeon wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

    It is a strong contender for my favorite movie ever.

    But in the spirit of full disclosure, my previous favorite movie ever was Punch-Drunk Love.

    I'd basically suck P.T. Anderson's dick, is what I'm saying here.

    I never saw that but that's quite astonishing, Poor.

    I guess we all have our guilty pleasures.

    What? Why is it astonishing?

    Yeah, the movie has Adam Sandler, but it is in absolutely no way an Adam Sandler movie. It's a P.T. Anderson, through and trough.
    Yes, but you also think that Brad Pitt is a good actor.

    This is very convenient for me when I wish to reconcile things internally when we disagree on something.

    He ain't always, but denying his talent is kinda silly. Fight Club, 12 Monkeys, Se7en - the dude has some chops, with a good enough director backing him.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Knob wrote: »
    man ain't no

    man

    ratatouille best picture

    dang what

    no way man that shit's for kids

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited February 2008
    yeah it was pretty good

    but wasn't the best movie i saw all year

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    Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Brad Pitt can only act when he's bein' all crazy.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Knob wrote: »
    yeah it was pretty good

    but wasn't the best movie i saw all year

    I didn't say it should win

    I said it should be nominated

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Poorochondriac wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    There Will Be Blood does look pretty awesome.

    It is a strong contender for my favorite movie ever.

    But in the spirit of full disclosure, my previous favorite movie ever was Punch-Drunk Love.

    I'd basically suck P.T. Anderson's dick, is what I'm saying here.

    I never saw that but that's quite astonishing, Poor.

    I guess we all have our guilty pleasures.

    What? Why is it astonishing?

    Yeah, the movie has Adam Sandler, but it is in absolutely no way an Adam Sandler movie. It's a P.T. Anderson, through and trough.

    What is your opinion on Magnolia?

    Occassionally overwrought, but it's such an ambitious, sprawling movie that I find it endearing. I have a lot of respect for any movie that ballsy, so I cut it a little more slack than I might otherwise.

    That said, I fucking hate Julianne Moore's character, and Melora Walters' character bugged me too. The script got a little sloppy in places.

    Overall, though, I really like it. Flawed, and not on the same level as Boogie Nights, PDL, or TWBB, but still enjoyable.

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    naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »
    I mean I guess metacritic is lying to me so I must be wrong
    First, if that were actually the basis of what constitutes the "best picture", Ratatouille would still lose, since there are several movies that were held in higher critical regard (such as "Once", which was also not nominated).

    Also, in this fantastic dimension where critical reception is the only determinant of cinematic superlatives, fucking Enchanted is a better movie than both The Diving Bell and the Butterfly and This is England, not to mention There Will Be Blood, The Savages, and several other masterworks of film.

    Basically what I'm saying is that I hope you're not actually that fucking thick.

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