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  • useruser Registered User regular
    Well I went ahead and stopped by the only pro-shop in town yesterday. I bought a lot of little doo-dads, i.e. a bow square, bubble levels, a stringer tool, serving thread and a serving jig. And I also got to try some bows in hand. They're more of a compound store than a recurve store, which is fine. But I know I'm gonna enjoy recurve more because it doesn't seem like there's a lot of complication and maintenance, at least compared to a compound.

    At home I went ahead and ordered everything I'd need to put together a complete bow, though giving the supply issues it may be another month and a half before it all comes together.

    I do have one question for y'all where do you guys get your strings, if you get them made custom?

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Buddy of mine works in a proshop and had a good deal on an older compound bow. Picking it up this weekend. I still have all my old accessories so i just need to get a batch of new arrows made up.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I've been very happy with my strings from Grizzly Strings, from the UK, and TTT Strings, from the USA.

    Grizzly Strings has a website.
    https://www.grizzlyjim.co.uk/product/custom-grizzly-string/

    Jim is a great guy who also has archery content on YouTube.

    He has his own channel:
    https://youtube.com/c/ArcheryAdventures

    And he made videos for Merlin too
    https://youtube.com/user/MerlinArchery

    TTT Strings doesn't have a website, you can find them on Facebook. Trevor is a good guy too.

  • useruser Registered User regular
    Aw gotcha, I'ma check out TTT -- the thing I'm running into is that the limb manufacturer has a guide-line for how many strands to pair with their limbs (depending on poundage and what material the string is) and just about every single maker specifies a lot more strands than the limb manu is suggesting.

    I'm not sure if there's any terrible downsides to a thicker string, but I want to get it just right, since the nock size on my arrows will change according to the string I use.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    If you message Trevor at TTT Strings and tell him what you're shooting and such, he'll make you a great string.


    This barebow thing looks fun
    https://youtu.be/3sIKlFrY-sw

    https://youtu.be/q5ws8kN2-MY

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
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    On the other hand, longbow stuff looks like a blast too, and I already own one of those. I just need some wooden arrows!

    https://youtu.be/2YsYzoE5h3k

    https://youtu.be/Bs3HFVlyAX4

    There are multiple organizations, each with slightly different rules

    https://www.ibotraditional.net/about/rules/

    https://worldarchery.sport/rulebook/article/3138

    There's a huge competition in Lancaster Pennsylvania that I would like to go compete in some year, some of my acquaintances are doing an exhibition independent sunset competition for longbows and wooden arrows

    https://www.lancasterarcheryclassic.com/

    There's indoor and outdoor competitions, shooting paper target or 3D targets

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  • useruser Registered User regular
    I'm definitely leaning barebow, not necessarily World Archery, but NFAA rules. Since I think as a complete newbie the clicker would be a great help in helping me develop a full and consistent draw.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Yeah, a clicker can be very useful.

    I found some longbow videos from the 2017 World Archery finals

    https://youtu.be/vzXMbrIOE_c

    https://youtu.be/Fp4enpzvNOA

    https://youtu.be/zX2GwA5H-p0

    I'm going to try shooting my bow in my basement this week, will post an update when I do!

  • useruser Registered User regular
    I'm pretty blessed to be in Southern California, so I could practice year round. Although, the equipment I ordered won't be here until the end of February...

    My experience until then will be limited to Meet-Up classes. I wish there was a proper club with club gear here, but alas. I'm just happy there's a couple ranges.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    There are some amazing courses in California, based off some of the archers I follow on Instagram, I would love to get out there and explore some day.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    I did the Redding 3d shoot a few times, what a crazy course. something like 75 targets over 3 days? You're hiking all over the place with your gear. One of the targets is a giant bigfoot holding a concrete pepsi can at 100y. Its a real fun time.

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    Edit: My friend and I at the 2010 shoot I believe. We're the only ones in our group to hit the bullseye on the Buffalo at 80y.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    There was a giant sasquatch target at the Eastern Traditional Archery Rendezvous last summer. It was at somewhere around 100 yards. I was pretty low on arrows and very exhausted, so I didn't send one at it. Kinda wish I had.

  • useruser Registered User regular
    We have two ranges in Balboa Park, the one farther from me is your typical outdoor shooting range, that's got a line and targets lined up down range at set distances.

    The closest one is actually a hiking trail where you have to shoot at targets in a particular order, picking up your arrows as you advance, I guess that's a 3D range?

    Anyway, twice a month they do a tourney and for that they open up the full course, outside of those only the back half is open to shoot at on a daily basis.

    I'd like to check it out but I wonder if they frown at people bringing target recurves.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Yeah, hiking around a loop/course shooting at various foam targets is a blast. That's usually what people mean when they say 3-D archery.

    Hiking around a course and shooting at paper targets is called "field archery" and is a lot fun too.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    user wrote: »
    We have two ranges in Balboa Park, the one farther from me is your typical outdoor shooting range, that's got a line and targets lined up down range at set distances.

    The closest one is actually a hiking trail where you have to shoot at targets in a particular order, picking up your arrows as you advance, I guess that's a 3D range?

    Anyway, twice a month they do a tourney and for that they open up the full course, outside of those only the back half is open to shoot at on a daily basis.

    I'd like to check it out but I wonder if they frown at people bringing target recurves.

    Nobody cares what kind of bow you shoot. The only times ive ever seen an issue at my local place were groups who were taking FAR to long, just like a slow golf group, and a dude who brought a hundred pound compound and was shooting through the close range targets.

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  • useruser Registered User regular
    Well that's good, I got myself a 25" recurve riser on order. I didn't want to presume I could just bring a 68" bow to the trail, I think once I have my bow built I'm going to spend a month or two on the traditional range, before going to the field course.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    user wrote: »
    Well that's good, I got myself a 25" recurve riser on order. I didn't want to presume I could just bring a 68" bow to the trail, I think once I have my bow built I'm going to spend a month or two on the traditional range, before going to the field course.

    Depending on the trail you might be banging it into stuff, but thatll be a you problem.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I haven't ran shot with too many people, other than at the big shoot I went to, but almost no one cares low long you take, either to shoot, or to look for your arrows when you miss. Just let them go ahead of you.

    I belong to a club about an hour from my house, that's closed for the winter. I'm the only person who doesn't shoot a compound. I shoot with the compound shooters when I see them. Most ranges will have different stakes at different distances from the target.

    What type of riser did you order?

    https://archery360.com/2017/08/22/what-is-3d-archery-and-how-do-i-start/

    Some of the information about the classes on that page is outdated, especially the barebow thing, I think

  • useruser Registered User regular
    I ordered an older discontinued model Gillo, the G1, milled aluminum, at a really good price since it's been phasing out. Looking around it seemed like a good choice for barebow.

    The trail course near me is more like a field archery set up with paper targets.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Oh nice, Gillo risers look awesome. I'm hoping to play with one some day

    Here is a great video

    https://youtu.be/RRRnt1Zk7UI

  • useruser Registered User regular
    I know obviously I'ma need some arrows to shoot with my bow when it gets here. I gotta tell you friends, I spent about 3 weeks casually trying to absorb information about static and dynamic spine, and have consulted various charts to determine what spine rating to try for and then questioning what length of arrows to go for (bein almost sure that I don't necessarily want a fully 32" long arrow if I'm shooting outdoors at a 27" draw length).

    At some point I had to loose the arrow. So I went in on some Skylon Radius pre-fletched that come with breakaway points, for what seemed to be a very decent price for the pack of 12. I dunno if they're the ideal but I just kinda figure I need to get to shooting, and I can worry about small details much later.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Oh yeah there are so many variables with arrows, and so many little form things that can add even more variables into the equation! It's a good way to get completely overwhelmed.

    When I bought my first few dozen, I really I wish I had just called an archery shop and ordered exactly what they recommended

    @user I would encourage you to check out Jake Kaminski on YouTube, as well as the Barebow Project

    https://youtube.com/c/JakeKaminskiArchery

    https://youtube.com/c/TheBarebowProject

    I am a big fan of the guys from The Push podcast and YouTube videos too, but be warned they have a lot of hunting content

    https://youtu.be/hFONgtNVOr4

    Matt's a huge archery enthusiast and he's very knowledgeable.


    https://www.thepusharchery.com/

    They have a really good Facebook group too, if you have Facebook. Archery stuff is about the only reason I still have Facebook and Instagram.

    Their Facebook group is called "The Push Archery Listeners Group."

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I rearranged things in my basement enough to have seven meters of shooting space! Which is about a third of the distance of the typical target round, but this means I can shoot at home! I'm very excited. I will be able to work on my form and potentially take some online lessons.
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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    And here's two of the greatest barebow shooters around going head to head

    https://youtu.be/DUmD80K-pOw

  • useruser Registered User regular
    Neat, I caught the Olympic-style event live but didn't know they had one for barebow later on.

    I kinda regret getting my gear over seas because although there's a lot of savings the shipping has been slow as heck, hah.

    Ah well, this weekend I'm doin the beginner class again, only this time with a group of friends.

    I have a three-under tab now, so I'ma bring it and figure out how to use it.

  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    So my kid just turned 12. She had been doing shooting with a cheap Walmart recurve bow for a few years, and for Christmas we got her a compound.

    For her 12th birthday on Monday we went to a local archery range and it turns out the bow was too small for her, but we had fun shooting rental recurve bows and now she is extremely excited about getting and shooting one.

    We are probably going to go back to the range and be members or whatever there, and my wife and I had enough fun we will probably buy our own cheap bows to shoot with her.

    But it was a lot of fun and people were really cool there! People wore masks and everything. I'm excited to go back and pick out kiddos bow.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Finally picked up the bow from my friend. A 2006 Old Glory by Bowtech. I just need to get some arrows, a target and a peep site installed on the bow and I'm good to go. Hopefully I'll be set up by next weekend. I might have to run down some modules to shorten the draw length a bit, but we'll see once I shoot it.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Set up my bale and target. I can get about 50 yards range, and about 30 of it before I have to worry about trimming trees. I'm shooting 70lb though, so even at 50y the flight path will be pretty much flat. The bow goes into the proshop this week to be looked over, have a peep installed, hopefully adjust the draw length and have my arrows cut.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    That's a sweet bow, and a gorgeous place to shoot!

    I really want to get outside and shoot my bow.

    After I catch up on sleep.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Pew Pew! Shooting my Dads bow and getting it sighted in. It's only 40lbs, perfect for training up my back while I wait for the parts for the 70# I just got to come in.

    https://youtu.be/opQoO70GhOU

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Oh hell yeah

    There's something fascinating and beautiful about the arc of an arrow

  • TefTef Registered User regular
    Oh hell yeah

    There's something fascinating and beautiful about the arc of an arrow

    Depends at which end you’re standing, I reckon

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022
    I'm not entirely sure I wouldn't just stand there, amazed, if someone shot an arrow at me, right up until the point hit me

    my seven yard shooting range is good for working on form, but I really miss shooting longer ranges

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    I'm not entirely sure I wouldn't just stand there, amazed, if someone shot an arrow at me, right up until the point hit me

    my seven yard shooting range is good for working on form, but I really miss shooting longer ranges

    We have a spot in our back 40 where we could get 150 yards. Even on the high poundage compounds you’re aiming above the target at like 30 degrees. Its a beautiful arc.

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  • useruser Registered User regular
    Well my because of the pandemic my bow riser was delayed until mid-March -- a bit frustrating since I literally have everything else.

    But I am taking a weekend intermediate course put on by a level 3 coach, just using a loaner bow. It's been good!! Just wish I had my whole kit so I could have extracurricular practice.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    I forgot how rediculous the hunting branch of the Archery community is. The product below is deer feed. Just crushed up acorns. They market it like its monster energy drinks. .

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022
    I doubt I could hit the target at all, much less be close to the bullseye much past 35, my arrows drop rapidly somewhere around 30 yards, and I don't get enough practice at the range to know my holdover gaps

    I have my equipment set for a 20 yard point on, I hols about half the width of my arrow (I miss the Winky icon) above my desired point of impact at 25 and that works well

    I need to clean up my release and stabilize my bow arm, among other things, so I'm not as dependent on large fletchings

    They have a ton of surface area, lots of drag, coupled with the high mass of my arrows, it's like a parachute on them at a certain distance

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Look at the RAGE in that deer's eyes.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Marketing is extra stupid for outdoors and hunting stuff, good grief

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Look at the RAGE in that deer's eyes.

    That deer is gonna getcha, better get him first.

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