I visited my parents this weekend and the hotel didn't have cable. So they had a few government access channels, PBS (where I saw a documentary on Irish folk music which was cool), and the ION channel.
ION entirely rebroadcasts every copaganda show you know of. Law and Order and NCIS mostly.
I watched two episodes of NCIS and holy goddamn Jesus Christ shit is that show simultaneously bad and damaging the United States.
I am in the business of saving lives.
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PaperLuigi44My amazement is at maximum capacity.Registered Userregular
I just watched episode 6 of Peacemaker and arrgh trying to space episodes out by at least a day is agonising, I'm this close to just binging the rest.
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-Loki-Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining.Registered Userregular
Huh, my favorite episodes of Mandalorian are the first ones, when I thought it was an episodic cowboy show
While the early episodes felt a lot more individual (thanks to each one riffing on a particular western film), as soon as Grogu showed up at the end of episode 1 it was clear it wasn’t just going to be a space western.
Just felt like at that point it was going to be Lone Wolf and Cub
And there's nothing more Western than ripping your plot from Samurai movies
You don’t introduce a Yoda if you’re not doing something with the wider mythology.
HacksawJ. Duggan Esq.Wrestler at LawRegistered Userregular
According to state law, realtors don't have to disclose ghost holes. Now I'm not for creating laws just to address a hyper-specific problem of a supernatural nature, buuuuut I do also despise realtors...
I guess what's frustrating is less the kind of cliche sloppy writing or the wild departures from source on stuff like Master Chief's face and more that the show just has no interest in even looking at what made the series cool. Like Halo has an extremely clear and specific style and its not even hard to replicate but god damn they can't even get the song right. Its just so aggressively committed to being forgettable.
I guess what's frustrating is less the kind of cliche sloppy writing or the wild departures from source on stuff like Master Chief's face and more that the show just has no interest in even looking at what made the series cool. Like Halo has an extremely clear and specific style and its not even hard to replicate but god damn they can't even get the song right. Its just so aggressively committed to being forgettable.
Well that's disheartening.
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Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
I think I gave up on Farscape about halfway through season 1, because it just wasn't clicking for me.
Then I came back to it and found that the quality drastically improved from like, the week I stopped watching.
From the day it aired on, I had been adamant that the Game of Thrones finale was the worst TV ending I’d ever seen. Never wavered
Took a lot of effort!! But. Yeah. Killing Eve officially changed my mind
Another show added to the Bury Your Gays trope. And doing it with a show adaptation of a book that gave the lesbians a happy ending, with a vocal supportive fanbase not seen since the days of Hannibal. And doing it moments after making the relationship as explicitly canon as could be
Sure is something. When an ending is trending for days because of how betrayed a queer fanbase feels, you definitely have done something. Nothing good! But something
90% of the time, it's terrible practice to give the audience what they say they want, because then the show would be over. The lovers conquer their hurdles and smooch, the villain comes to justice, the world is changed in a pleasing way. It is your job to frustrate desires, to tease, to play with what people want and when. That's what television is.
But.
Finales are fucking different. It is no longer fun or cute to yank back the dessert - there's no more show! Just give people what they want, or, give people something so good they didn't realize they needed it. A lot of people think they're doing the latter, when they're not actually capable of it and should've just done the former and called it a day.
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Ally McBeal update:
This episode begins with Elaine (Jane Krakowski) showing off, at Ally's apartment, her infomercial for her face-bra invention, to all of her immediate coworkers. What follows is her family coming out of the woodwork to sue her for "stealing" the idea from a dead cousin.
Her invention:
Meanwhile Billy is leading a case of sexual harassment regarding a business that instituted a tropical beach spirit day once-a-month. And within moments of the opening credits ending he vomits out this little monologue:
Richard: Okay, first up, Sharpe versus Volpe Packard. Uh, no settle? Billy: We go to trial. I'm taking Ling, second chair. Ling: This is the bathing suit case? Ally: Why are all our cases about sexual harassment, and why do we always represent the harassers? Billy: This isn't sexual harassment. Ally: It isn't? Richard: Oh, he... He just makes everybody wear bathing suits. Billy: He doesn't make anybody do anything. And why is it no matter what happens, women always feel harassed? You know it's you guys who make yourselves out to be the weaker sex. And, by the way, men don't go out and get their breasts done. Men don't obsess over the size of their butts. Men don't try on 10 different outfits before going out at night. And men don't care if their tummies look flat. You want to condemn the people fixating on women's bodies? Condemn the women.
FUCK OFF, BILLY
Finally, the C-plot of this episode is John Cage finally convincing Nelle to go on a date with him. She agrees but on the condition that she gets to choose the destination. John then talks Richard into bringing Ling with them, making this a proper double-date. Later that night John Cage & Richard Fish are brought to an industrial nightclub for a performance of hardcore gangster rap. Portia de Rossi has white-girl dreads and is a big fan of this. And then John Cage & Richard Fish start white-guy dancing to rap and the gals' attitude changes pretty quickly.
But those dance moves worked and at the end of the episode Nelle invites John Cage over for a home-cooked dinner. And... And after 18 episodes of awkward courtship John Cage and Nelle Porter finally get together.
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
Could the best episode of DS9 secretly be this Ocean's Eleven-style holosuite heist caper with the entire crew pitching in to save Vic Fontaine's club from a holosuite gangster who jumped over from a different holosuite program by robbing a casino? All while in the midst of a galaxy spanning war that's happening right outside their doors?
Yes, it is.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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PaperLuigi44My amazement is at maximum capacity.Registered Userregular
From the day it aired on, I had been adamant that the Game of Thrones finale was the worst TV ending I’d ever seen. Never wavered
Took a lot of effort!! But. Yeah. Killing Eve officially changed my mind
Another show added to the Bury Your Gays trope. And doing it with a show adaptation of a book that gave the lesbians a happy ending, with a vocal supportive fanbase not seen since the days of Hannibal. And doing it moments after making the relationship as explicitly canon as could be
Sure is something. When an ending is trending for days because of how betrayed a queer fanbase feels, you definitely have done something. Nothing good! But something
That fucking sucks. I had overall enjoyed S1 but was wary of continuing because of my issues with it and wanted to see how it panned out, but you never want to be right in this scenario, I get no pleasure out of that.
I think they tried an interesting experiment with Killing Eve with bringing in new showrunners every season, especially since they were specifically bringing in women, but it looks like it ended up being a bit of a mess in terms of keeping everything on that show coherent. I don't think there was a lot of continuity in the writer's room, either.
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Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
This episode begins with Elaine (Jane Krakowski) showing off, at Ally's apartment, her infomercial for her face-bra invention, to all of her immediate coworkers. What follows is her family coming out of the woodwork to sue her for "stealing" the idea from a dead cousin.
Her invention:
Meanwhile Billy is leading a case of sexual harassment regarding a business that instituted a tropical beach spirit day once-a-month. And within moments of the opening credits ending he vomits out this little monologue:
Richard: Okay, first up, Sharpe versus Volpe Packard. Uh, no settle? Billy: We go to trial. I'm taking Ling, second chair. Ling: This is the bathing suit case? Ally: Why are all our cases about sexual harassment, and why do we always represent the harassers? Billy: This isn't sexual harassment. Ally: It isn't? Richard: Oh, he... He just makes everybody wear bathing suits. Billy: He doesn't make anybody do anything. And why is it no matter what happens, women always feel harassed? You know it's you guys who make yourselves out to be the weaker sex. And, by the way, men don't go out and get their breasts done. Men don't obsess over the size of their butts. Men don't try on 10 different outfits before going out at night. And men don't care if their tummies look flat. You want to condemn the people fixating on women's bodies? Condemn the women.
FUCK OFF, BILLY
Finally, the C-plot of this episode is John Cage finally convincing Nelle to go on a date with him. She agrees but on the condition that she gets to choose the destination. John then talks Richard into bringing Ling with them, making this a proper double-date. Later that night John Cage & Richard Fish are brought to an industrial nightclub for a performance of hardcore gangster rap. Portia de Rossi has white-girl dreads and is a big fan of this. And then John Cage & Richard Fish start white-guy dancing to rap and the gals' attitude changes pretty quickly.
But those dance moves worked and at the end of the episode Nelle invites John Cage over for a home-cooked dinner. And... And after 18 episodes of awkward courtship John Cage and Nelle Porter finally get together.
I like how you use all the character names except for Portia de Rossi. I am imagining that it is just her, the real actor, working at the law firm.
This episode begins with Elaine (Jane Krakowski) showing off, at Ally's apartment, her infomercial for her face-bra invention, to all of her immediate coworkers. What follows is her family coming out of the woodwork to sue her for "stealing" the idea from a dead cousin.
Her invention:
Meanwhile Billy is leading a case of sexual harassment regarding a business that instituted a tropical beach spirit day once-a-month. And within moments of the opening credits ending he vomits out this little monologue:
Richard: Okay, first up, Sharpe versus Volpe Packard. Uh, no settle? Billy: We go to trial. I'm taking Ling, second chair. Ling: This is the bathing suit case? Ally: Why are all our cases about sexual harassment, and why do we always represent the harassers? Billy: This isn't sexual harassment. Ally: It isn't? Richard: Oh, he... He just makes everybody wear bathing suits. Billy: He doesn't make anybody do anything. And why is it no matter what happens, women always feel harassed? You know it's you guys who make yourselves out to be the weaker sex. And, by the way, men don't go out and get their breasts done. Men don't obsess over the size of their butts. Men don't try on 10 different outfits before going out at night. And men don't care if their tummies look flat. You want to condemn the people fixating on women's bodies? Condemn the women.
FUCK OFF, BILLY
Finally, the C-plot of this episode is John Cage finally convincing Nelle to go on a date with him. She agrees but on the condition that she gets to choose the destination. John then talks Richard into bringing Ling with them, making this a proper double-date. Later that night John Cage & Richard Fish are brought to an industrial nightclub for a performance of hardcore gangster rap. Portia de Rossi has white-girl dreads and is a big fan of this. And then John Cage & Richard Fish start white-guy dancing to rap and the gals' attitude changes pretty quickly.
But those dance moves worked and at the end of the episode Nelle invites John Cage over for a home-cooked dinner. And... And after 18 episodes of awkward courtship John Cage and Nelle Porter finally get together.
I like how you use all the character names except for Portia de Rossi. I am imagining that it is just her, the real actor, working at the law firm.
I used her character's name! She's Nelle Porter!
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I am up to season 4 of DS9.
With the appearance of the goatee and the newly shaved head the storylines have been firing on all cylinders. TNG is best when it’s doing philosophy, DS9 when it’s about politics and relationships.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
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early DS9 Sisko with no goatee makes me uncomfortable in the same way a baby or small child would be uncomfortable with their bearded father shaving it off.
like, who are you? you're not my space dad.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
early DS9 Sisko with no goatee makes me uncomfortable in the same way a baby or small child would be uncomfortable with their bearded father shaving it off.
like, who are you? you're not my space dad.
Then you have the episode of S3 where he has the goatee, a BUSHY goatee, and the hair. Oh, God, it’s so off putting.
And then he comes in S4 and yes space father, I will go get the switch
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Dorn is fucking killing it in Sons of Mohg, holy shit.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
Dorn is fucking killing it in Sons of Mohg, holy shit.
I'm on the final stretch of season 7 and Dorn is just fucking great, stealing every scene he's in. After years of only really knowing Worf from TNG, it's wild how good he is in the tail end of DS9!
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
I mean his role for years and years was to interject "maybe we should shoot it/them" and be told to shut up, or to run straight at something and get unconvincingly thrown aside to demonstrate the Dangerous Entity's power/resolve. It's not much surprise to me that once he got into a more serialized show with more consistently good writing (I'm sorry I feel how I feel) that he became a much better character.
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
I don't think it's hard to argue that DS9 definitely has more consistently good writing than TNG. I feel like maybe TNG has some higher highs, but DS9 rarely had a bad episode.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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no the simpsons ended in 1998, but they were brought back for the movie in 2007
it really makes you think
ION entirely rebroadcasts every copaganda show you know of. Law and Order and NCIS mostly.
I watched two episodes of NCIS and holy goddamn Jesus Christ shit is that show simultaneously bad and damaging the United States.
You don’t introduce a Yoda if you’re not doing something with the wider mythology.
Well there's your problem, you got a ghost hole
But I know that Tamara Podemski is a big player in it, and she is fucking phenomenal, and I hope the show recognizes that fact
They keep coming up with new reasons for me to go "oh come on"
Well that's disheartening.
Yaddle is in the new Lego game and even talks!
Farscape fucking rules! It's so alive and colorful and unique and oh my god that's actual set design and costumes and makeup!
Then I came back to it and found that the quality drastically improved from like, the week I stopped watching.
Took a lot of effort!! But. Yeah. Killing Eve officially changed my mind
Sure is something. When an ending is trending for days because of how betrayed a queer fanbase feels, you definitely have done something. Nothing good! But something
Steam
But.
Finales are fucking different. It is no longer fun or cute to yank back the dessert - there's no more show! Just give people what they want, or, give people something so good they didn't realize they needed it. A lot of people think they're doing the latter, when they're not actually capable of it and should've just done the former and called it a day.
This episode begins with Elaine (Jane Krakowski) showing off, at Ally's apartment, her infomercial for her face-bra invention, to all of her immediate coworkers. What follows is her family coming out of the woodwork to sue her for "stealing" the idea from a dead cousin.
Her invention:
Meanwhile Billy is leading a case of sexual harassment regarding a business that instituted a tropical beach spirit day once-a-month. And within moments of the opening credits ending he vomits out this little monologue:
FUCK OFF, BILLY
Finally, the C-plot of this episode is John Cage finally convincing Nelle to go on a date with him. She agrees but on the condition that she gets to choose the destination. John then talks Richard into bringing Ling with them, making this a proper double-date. Later that night John Cage & Richard Fish are brought to an industrial nightclub for a performance of hardcore gangster rap. Portia de Rossi has white-girl dreads and is a big fan of this. And then John Cage & Richard Fish start white-guy dancing to rap and the gals' attitude changes pretty quickly.
But those dance moves worked and at the end of the episode Nelle invites John Cage over for a home-cooked dinner. And... And after 18 episodes of awkward courtship John Cage and Nelle Porter finally get together.
That fucking sucks. I had overall enjoyed S1 but was wary of continuing because of my issues with it and wanted to see how it panned out, but you never want to be right in this scenario, I get no pleasure out of that.
I like how you use all the character names except for Portia de Rossi. I am imagining that it is just her, the real actor, working at the law firm.
damn
67 ain't even that old
I used her character's name! She's Nelle Porter!
With the appearance of the goatee and the newly shaved head the storylines have been firing on all cylinders. TNG is best when it’s doing philosophy, DS9 when it’s about politics and relationships.
like, who are you? you're not my space dad.
Then you have the episode of S3 where he has the goatee, a BUSHY goatee, and the hair. Oh, God, it’s so off putting.
And then he comes in S4 and yes space father, I will go get the switch
Steam
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I'm on the final stretch of season 7 and Dorn is just fucking great, stealing every scene he's in. After years of only really knowing Worf from TNG, it's wild how good he is in the tail end of DS9!