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[League of Legends] Bel'Veth slaps

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited April 25
    bring back old urgot

    hitting one e then shooting 4 muramana qs with the cdr cap and killing an adc in fog of war was literally the perfect design

    also new crabgot is fake af doesnt even look like a crab just remake urgot again, commit to the crab thing, make all his skins crabs, its time

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    Wukong produces so many moments of just...pure, unadulterated joy with his stupid decoy. I had an Evelynn blow her ult on the decoy twice. Like she just thought I was standing there I guess. Watched a Viego ult that sucker too. So fun to counterjungle with it too. BYE NERDS MONKEY OUT. Nothing like giving them the slip when you decoy over a wall after walking past a bush. They follow you through the bush and they go "AH FUCK IT'S THE MONKEY" and they kill it.

    Also had a fantastic Gwen moment where I'm split pushing because Gwen murders towers instantly and the Akali top rotates to stop me. You're two levels lower than me, I have over twice your farm and I'm three items built to your two. She tries to fight me for two seconds, I instantly chunk her and she just nopes out. Just top tier Akali thinking. "Whatever I got this I'm fucking Akali".

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    There are times I will stay to kill the wukong clone (obviously not spending anything on it) simply because I can't get to anyone else and the clone is worth 25g

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    There are times I will stay to kill the wukong clone (obviously not spending anything on it) simply because I can't get to anyone else and the clone is worth 25g

    I hope the 25g helped that Evelynn cope with her two minute ult cooldown.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    The best part about Gwen is the slow evolution in the minds of your opponents. Early game you're so fragile so you run away from a lot of things. Then maybe you get a kill or two, you hit your farm stride, you build an item, and now you can fight a bit. So you run up to an enemy and they're like "oh this fucking Gwen let's get her easy peasy" and then you KILL THEM.

    A bit later now you have two items and there's two of them and they're like "We've got this Gwen" and then you murder the first one and chase down the second. This is the best part because there are so many ways for them to think they have the upper hand. There's the "this tower will save me oh god she's killing the tower so fast kill her kill her" and the related "she couldn't possibly kill me that quickly under tower." The classic "she just got the double kill but she's low so I can pick up the free kill here wait oh god no not the scissors." The always fun "well if I start to lose this skirmish I can just leave what the fuck is the range and slow on these needles?"

    Then you're just disgustingly fed and start running at piles of enemies and you can see the momentary hesitation of "we've got this right?" and "oh no fuck it's the Gwen" before they just start running. I think the secret Gwen all star is the W. You get pretty dang tanky and it makes a lot of 2v1s into fair fights. The ADC or mage is not going to be able to help the tank. So either they come inside the bubble and then I destroy them with snips, or they let me fight two consecutive 1v1s and a lot of the time I like my odds.

  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    I just won a couple of games of league but in the second one, in which I felt like a very impactful support (destroying my lane, getting every drag, going top to rescue a hard-losing top lane, not dying as full-damage zyra in a dangerous and mobile game), my jungle pings me and says 'stop taking kills' and

    I am

    SO TILTED

    me killing people is the reason we're winning!

    ...anyway I'll take a break until I detilt heh

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  • SonelanSonelan Registered User regular
    I know its aram so it doesn't really matter, but I just lost a game cause Talia (I think thats the earth bender lady)'s ult is actually global so she could just zoom down the map to kill the base while my team was stuck at the other end of the map. Super fustrating.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Sonelan wrote: »
    I know its aram so it doesn't really matter, but I just lost a game cause Talia (I think thats the earth bender lady)'s ult is actually global so she could just zoom down the map to kill the base while my team was stuck at the other end of the map. Super fustrating.

    Gotta play around those abilities! My friends love backdooring in ARAM with Panth ult.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    @Ivellius

    Yeah so not a bad clear at all...

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    Did they buff Ashe recently

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    New swain is undoubtedly a better champ, but I dunno if he fits my playstyle as much as he used to.

    Still love the bastard.

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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    edited April 28
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Ivellius

    Yeah so not a bad clear at all...

    ok as a Jhin main (albeit jungle hater and off-meta jungle extreme hater) I'm intrigued.

    I am weirded out that he takes W before Q, but I suppose it is the case that the W damage is higher, the wolves are in a line, and the 12 second vs 7 second cd and 50 vs 40 mana cost just isn't actually relevant. (obviously in Jhin lane, coming in with W first instead of Q first generally is no good because it's not a guaranteed hit and the longer cooldown matters, also with W you usually can't hit 3 ranged minions to push, without weird positioning and with Q you can)

    Jhin is a good ganker though (for an adc) and I think that the video maker is wrong in saying you need your laners to have hard cc you can follow up on. The whole point of Jhin is that you can create the root from your friend's damage, even if your friend doesn't have any cc.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    New Swain is kinda OP

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    This is just an example, with the Jinx, Sett, and Lee Sin all being fairly fed (the lee sin was SUPER fed). I also ended up the game with more HP than sett.

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    I am weirded out that he takes W before Q, but I suppose it is the case that the W damage is higher, the wolves are in a line, and the 12 second vs 7 second cd and 50 vs 40 mana cost just isn't actually relevant. (obviously in Jhin lane, coming in with W first instead of Q first generally is no good because it's not a guaranteed hit and the longer cooldown matters, also with W you usually can't hit 3 ranged minions to push, without weird positioning and with Q you can)

    Jhin is a good ganker though (for an adc) and I think that the video maker is wrong in saying you need your laners to have hard cc you can follow up on. The whole point of Jhin is that you can create the root from your friend's damage, even if your friend doesn't have any cc.

    Yeah, basically. Having seen it yesterday and then this brief video it's one where I might not have come up with the idea, but it makes a lot of sense and works pretty well. As you note, Jhin has excellent ganks if you can land your W; he's a high utility ADC for a reason, and him rooting you from a mile away and running up with a ton of damage is terrifying. Or once he has his ultimate he can just fire W and R and then go back to clearing his jungle (doesn't even have to leave to contribute, really). The one we saw yesterday finished 14/4/3 on a team that really wasn't doing all that well (next best score was either 1/4/4 or 2/6/5 depending on what you prioritize, I guess). I'd say it's pretty legit, though the concerns about what it does to your team comp are worth discussing, and I'm sure there are junglers who would absolutely destroy him, but these are solvable problems.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    Ivellius wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    I am weirded out that he takes W before Q, but I suppose it is the case that the W damage is higher, the wolves are in a line, and the 12 second vs 7 second cd and 50 vs 40 mana cost just isn't actually relevant. (obviously in Jhin lane, coming in with W first instead of Q first generally is no good because it's not a guaranteed hit and the longer cooldown matters, also with W you usually can't hit 3 ranged minions to push, without weird positioning and with Q you can)

    Jhin is a good ganker though (for an adc) and I think that the video maker is wrong in saying you need your laners to have hard cc you can follow up on. The whole point of Jhin is that you can create the root from your friend's damage, even if your friend doesn't have any cc.

    Yeah, basically. Having seen it yesterday and then this brief video it's one where I might not have come up with the idea, but it makes a lot of sense and works pretty well. As you note, Jhin has excellent ganks if you can land your W; he's a high utility ADC for a reason, and him rooting you from a mile away and running up with a ton of damage is terrifying. Or once he has his ultimate he can just fire W and R and then go back to clearing his jungle (doesn't even have to leave to contribute, really). The one we saw yesterday finished 14/4/3 on a team that really wasn't doing all that well (next best score was either 1/4/4 or 2/6/5 depending on what you prioritize, I guess). I'd say it's pretty legit, though the concerns about what it does to your team comp are worth discussing, and I'm sure there are junglers who would absolutely destroy him, but these are solvable problems.

    As a caveat I'd say he really benefitted from us not knowing what was happening. Also with Gwen, I wasn't sure who would actually win a fight if I invaded. I think I could have beaten him in retrospect but that's kind of a one way door. You'll probably die if you try to retreat.

    I think you'd have to pick him second every time. The list of junglers who would mow him over is probably pretty long I think. If you could pick him into bad duelists/turbofarmers you could get there, but I feel like if you picked this into Trundle or Vi you'd be pretty bummed out.

  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    edited April 28
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    As a caveat I'd say he really benefitted from us not knowing what was happening. Also with Gwen, I wasn't sure who would actually win a fight if I invaded. I think I could have beaten him in retrospect but that's kind of a one way door. You'll probably die if you try to retreat.

    I think you'd have to pick him second every time. The list of junglers who would mow him over is probably pretty long I think. If you could pick him into bad duelists/turbofarmers you could get there, but I feel like if you picked this into Trundle or Vi you'd be pretty bummed out.

    Sure, element of surprise makes it better, though I think early game Jhin > Gwen. You're right in that it's all or nothing; you definitely don't run away in that, and I think he can root / kite accordingly. But yes, he almost certainly has a lot of bad matchups that make it worse.

    Edit: Also, My Shop is open! I had one really bad option, but surprisingly good for me. I've already purchased two of them (Pentakill Viego and Arcana Tahm) and will almost certainly get a third (Nightbringer Lillia). Fourth and fifth are pretty iffy (Snow Day Graves and Astronaut Rammus), though the fact that I'm even considering it is extraordinary.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited April 29
    Ivellius wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    As a caveat I'd say he really benefitted from us not knowing what was happening. Also with Gwen, I wasn't sure who would actually win a fight if I invaded. I think I could have beaten him in retrospect but that's kind of a one way door. You'll probably die if you try to retreat.

    I think you'd have to pick him second every time. The list of junglers who would mow him over is probably pretty long I think. If you could pick him into bad duelists/turbofarmers you could get there, but I feel like if you picked this into Trundle or Vi you'd be pretty bummed out.

    Sure, element of surprise makes it better, though I think early game Jhin > Gwen. You're right in that it's all or nothing; you definitely don't run away in that, and I think he can root / kite accordingly. But yes, he almost certainly has a lot of bad matchups that make it worse.

    Edit: Also, My Shop is open! I had one really bad option, but surprisingly good for me. I've already purchased two of them (Pentakill Viego and Arcana Tahm) and will almost certainly get a third (Nightbringer Lillia). Fourth and fifth are pretty iffy (Snow Day Graves and Astronaut Rammus), though the fact that I'm even considering it is extraordinary.

    I think it's a question of if Gwen could get him. If you can get the drop on him in the jungle I think she stands a strong chance of killing him. I do actually think she could run away with good W timing too, but the cooldown on it is long enough that you can't use it to fight and run. So maybe you dip in to counter jungle since you clear so fast, and can use that to bail if you get caught out.

    The my shop was okay for me. I already had superior skins for a lot of the champs. I did pick up a discount project Vi though.

    Oh also: new prime gaming capsule today. Go get it if you are a Prime member.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    Okay thread I have a question and I'm pretty sure the answer will be "it depends" but let's see what everyone thinks.

    My team is Sett/Diana/Yasuo/Caitlyn/Brand, and they have Quinn/Kindred/Swain/Ashe/Blitz. We have 3 dragons, they have one and it's infernal soul. Now, both dragon and baron are up, which is the best one to take? I know elder dragon is basically the best buff but after that I dunno the relative value of these things.

    Follow up questions: does the soul matter? Do the comps matter?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Soul.

    You get soul.

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  • PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Okay thread I have a question and I'm pretty sure the answer will be "it depends" but let's see what everyone thinks.

    My team is Sett/Diana/Yasuo/Caitlyn/Brand, and they have Quinn/Kindred/Swain/Ashe/Blitz. We have 3 dragons, they have one and it's infernal soul. Now, both dragon and baron are up, which is the best one to take? I know elder dragon is basically the best buff but after that I dunno the relative value of these things.

    Follow up questions: does the soul matter? Do the comps matter?

    I think soul is probably always the right answer; unless it’s cloud soul. Infernal soul is a big ass permanent damage increase buff. Baron is a huge spike in temporary power, but it’ll be off by the time elder spawns.

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Okay thread I have a question and I'm pretty sure the answer will be "it depends" but let's see what everyone thinks.

    My team is Sett/Diana/Yasuo/Caitlyn/Brand, and they have Quinn/Kindred/Swain/Ashe/Blitz. We have 3 dragons, they have one and it's infernal soul. Now, both dragon and baron are up, which is the best one to take? I know elder dragon is basically the best buff but after that I dunno the relative value of these things.

    Follow up questions: does the soul matter? Do the comps matter?

    Objectively? Baron's almost certainly the better choice, as it's more valuable to you, and you should be able to leverage this into a better game state and then take the next one fairly easily. Given the current discrepancy in buffs I'll assume you have a bit of an advantage, but Baron accelerates that lead, hopefully into one that makes the next big teamfight for soul almost unloseable for you. If you can knock down a couple of inhibitors...yeah, you should have a good advantage. If not and the other team won't make a similarly large swing, maybe you take Soul.

    (I still might go for soul but I hate losing dragons. Dragon's a quicker take, too--there's a good chance you can grab it quickly and still contest Baron.)

    Soul does matter a bit but is comp-dependent. Cloud Soul is underrated, but there are some champs it doesn't help much. Comp also matters quite a bit, but given those two teams I think you can use Baron reasonably easy--Sett / Yasuo can probably side lane while Cait sieges.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    You can kill dragon, get soul, and be at baron before they finish. If they are five manning baron, you send four to contest. It shouldn’t be a choice unless you have zero vision of the enemy team.

    You get soul.

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    If they are within 2k gold of you so that the baron gold and resulting towers matter, the answer is still soul. Soul is worth a lot of gold in stats.

    Only time where the answer isn't automatically soul is they have a teamfight comp, you have a 1-3-1 comp and you folks are even. And your waveclear sucks. In that specific situation you risk them just forcing a fight at an inhib and running down your nexus

  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    edited April 30
    You can kill dragon, get soul, and be at baron before they finish. If they are five manning baron, you send four to contest. It shouldn’t be a choice unless you have zero vision of the enemy team.

    You get soul.

    Sure, but that answer is basically "You get both," which isn't the question.

    For a game state in which this is probably a decision, I suppose the best hypothetical would involve teams respawning, where you don't have enough strength to safely take one but the travel time means the enemy team gets the other if you make a choice. I will still maintain that Baron is the better choice (and maybe kinda sorta have the research to prove it). Thankfully, there are other math nerds who have done research for me! (Disclaimer: Not a quantitative person here. I am firmly focused on the humanities for my personal interests.)

    According to a lengthy methodological analysis by Mary Zhou in May 2020 here, Baron Kills Difference (and First Baron) are significantly more predictive than soul difference. (Scroll about three-fourths of the way down for this, the real finding.) Thing is, I still don't know if that's enough to answer the question accurately, as many games won't have a dragon soul to account for and in this hypothetical we do, but unless I misinterpret I think this is still true.

    A really simplified mathematical discussion might bear this out. Dragon Soul is probably worth more than Baron Nashor in terms of gold, but similarly Baron Nashor is worth way more than a single drake, which is the actual comparative choice. See spoilered footnote for more specific gold value discussion.* You will stand a good chance at closing out a game with Baron, but if you get Soul then you still need to win a fight at Baron or Elder Drake. This post briefly notes that pros last year preferred Baron to Dragon Soul, almost certainly for this reason.

    To be fair, this is old-ish data, but I would be surprised if the game has changed drastically enough that these still didn't hold true. (I suppose it's possible!) It doesn't appear as though there are similarly detailed more recent studies, but if anyone has more recent data I'd love to know.

    Ultimately, the answer to anything so multivariate will be "It depends," and it is likely that a team in position to make this choice with a guaranteed outcome could get both, but in a vacuum Baron Nashor is preferable if this is actually a choice.

    *
    Not sure a forum post is the best choice to have the lengthy discussion it requires; forgive me for footnotes / parentheses / not knowing how best to condense the arguments. Brief discussion follows, though.

    Gold values for drakes are around 1000 gold, with Infernal falling right at this number. They do grow over time, but Baron grants 1500 gold immediately as well as roughly 1300 gold per player of admittedly temporary additional stats, though exact gold value also increases over game time (I used 26 minutes as the chosen value--why? I dunno) and you probably don't weight AD and AP as equally valuable on a champion. Dragon Soul adds a lot of value, sure, but there's also a lot of value in what you can get with Baron buff in terms of towers, inhibitors, enemy jungle camps, and map position. Overall I think Baron is going to leverage the game state better, and then you easily take the next drake for soul.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I took the question to be which should you prioritize, which if you are on soul point prioritize getting soul. Especially I you have been cleaning up dragons and they haven’t. Elder is the single biggest power spike in the game, getting soul makes it spawn, and having soul makes you more likely to secure it.


    Hextech soul, in particular, is so fucking strong that it doesn’t even become even the smallest consideration.

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    edited April 30
    How busted is new swain?

    I got another fucking Penta on em.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    the rift is now the swain domain of pain

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    the rift is now the swain domain of pain

    All aboard the swain train

    Choo choo

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    I completely missed this announcement...



    HIGH NOON LEONA

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    that's a high noon TK in the splash art of the leona

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    I still can't believe that's a Leona skin instead of a Rell skin.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    that's a high noon TK in the splash art of the leona

    conspiratorial thinking is that a second wave of high noon skins will hit ptr with next champ

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    conspiratorial thinking is that a second wave of high noon skins will hit ptr with next champ

    Well, Leona has voice lines for several champions that currently don't (TK, Samira, Viktor...I think there's another one or two), so I'd say it's almost certain.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    hold on they added questlines for opening loot boxes

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    hold on they added questlines for opening loot boxes

    Gotta gameify it.

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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    edited May 1
    Just played a real annoying ranked game where the enemy Lee Sin 'support' took smite and ignite and never came to lane, instead roaming around and causing issues.

    I was playing as Zyra and didn't really fancy running around the jungle skirmishing, but in order to make the game work I left my lane level 3, let my adc get solo lane xp, and ran around ganking as well. I've noticed that in silver games, when one support or "support" does some sort of dumb perma roam, the opposing support almost never responds correctly. You don't need to match exactly where they're going, but unless you being in your lane is going to 100% guarantee a kill on the adc right now, you should get out of there and gank something, imo.

    Our mid was real bad--ended at least 100 cs down on their 20 kill Irelia (who did quite well in this stupid skirmishy game), but even though initially we found ourselves a bit reactive in our play, we actually just ended up doing better in teamfights--and we had a Shaco jungle who wasn't particularly harmed by the enemy double jungle shenanigans

    I definitely hit my 10 death powerspike, though. Playing Zyra in a game like that sucks! But I was first pick and I don't want to psych myself out of picking Zyra when I feel like playing Zyra, so I just went for it.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    TFW you play AFO and your team picks swain

    and the enemy team

    picks sylas

    D:

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    Tried out a bruiser Diana build in a normal and it's pretty crazy how different she can play by swapping out some items. Just a more sustained murderforce instead of being a heatseeking missile. I think missile might be the better build overall but I think it's definitely good to have bruiser in your back pocket for comps that you can't melt instantly.

  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Tried out a bruiser Diana build in a normal and it's pretty crazy how different she can play by swapping out some items. Just a more sustained murderforce instead of being a heatseeking missile. I think missile might be the better build overall but I think it's definitely good to have bruiser in your back pocket for comps that you can't melt instantly.

    Decided to nose into your match history, but it looked like a fun build. Especially given the enemy team comp, I don't think Assassin would've been a reasonable choice. I've picked up Diana a few times lately but haven't tried that approach. Wonder if it'd be any good in lane...

    I sadly haven't been able to play quite as much lately (thanks, academic calendar!), but did get carried by my friends in a couple of games last night where they went double-ADC poke bot lanes (Varus + Ashe and Kog + Ashe, respectively). Also despite telling myself I should branch out and play more mage junglers, I went Sejuani to tryhard for First Win of the Day and then Viego because the Pentakill skin was in my shop and I hadn't gotten to use it yet.

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    Ivellius wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Tried out a bruiser Diana build in a normal and it's pretty crazy how different she can play by swapping out some items. Just a more sustained murderforce instead of being a heatseeking missile. I think missile might be the better build overall but I think it's definitely good to have bruiser in your back pocket for comps that you can't melt instantly.

    Decided to nose into your match history, but it looked like a fun build. Especially given the enemy team comp, I don't think Assassin would've been a reasonable choice. I've picked up Diana a few times lately but haven't tried that approach. Wonder if it'd be any good in lane...

    I sadly haven't been able to play quite as much lately (thanks, academic calendar!), but did get carried by my friends in a couple of games last night where they went double-ADC poke bot lanes (Varus + Ashe and Kog + Ashe, respectively). Also despite telling myself I should branch out and play more mage junglers, I went Sejuani to tryhard for First Win of the Day and then Viego because the Pentakill skin was in my shop and I hadn't gotten to use it yet.

    Yeah it was definitely an ideal first comp to test it on. I had decided to try it before I queued up but when I saw all the thicc bois it kind of validated it. Definitely interested to get more info on how it is in general.

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