"Scott Morrison just destroyed a child in Tasmania. "
*clip of ScoMo tripping and falling on a kid during a sporting event*
- Ben Graham is a journo.
Both the kid (thankfully) and ScoMo (I'll withhold judgement) appear to be fine.
But you'ld think after the classic BoJo rugby incident, putting your party's leader in a position to just wreck a child, would be a no-no in political circles.
It went Liberal every election since 1945, and Abbott won multiple times, before losing to an Independent at the last one.
So, whether that's an outlier, or a change of philosophy, we just don't know yet.
We don't have polling (or reliable partisanship) to the depth that the US does, so there's unlikely to be a reliable predictor until Saturday arvo.
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Certainly be interesting to see what happens there. She’s just utterly reprehensible, but I am unsure yet if that makes her entirely unpalatable in Australia or not.
"Scott Morrison just destroyed a child in Tasmania. "
*clip of ScoMo tripping and falling on a kid during a sporting event*
- Ben Graham is a journo.
Both the kid (thankfully) and ScoMo (I'll withhold judgement) appear to be fine.
But you'ld think after the classic BoJo rugby incident, putting your party's leader in a position to just wreck a child, would be a no-no in political circles.
But you'ld think after the classic BoJo rugby incident, putting your party's leader in a position to just wreck a child, would be a no-no in political circles.
Why? It never loses votes. It's media fluff and doesn't affect voting.
Oh no! Scomo tripped and fell! Truly, he is not Prime Minister material. Fuck this just makes me angry. Genuinely, this makes him look like a loveable oaf. BoJo's relied on the same persona for decades and it never lost him an election. All this is free advertising for him. It's not an own, anyone who cares wasn't voting for him, its entirely to his benefit.
But you'ld think after the classic BoJo rugby incident, putting your party's leader in a position to just wreck a child, would be a no-no in political circles.
Why? It never loses votes. It's media fluff and doesn't affect voting.
Oh no! Scomo tripped and fell! Truly, he is not Prime Minister material. Fuck this just makes me angry. Genuinely, this makes him look like a loveable oaf. BoJo's relied on the same persona for decades and it never lost him an election. All this is free advertising for him. It's not an own, anyone who cares wasn't voting for him, its entirely to his benefit.
It hasn't, because in both cases, the kids were fine.
If the kid had been seriously hurt/hospitalized/worse, then it'd be THE story.
A 100+kg man landing on top of kid less than half his weight, there's a not insignificant chance that the kid doesn't just laugh it off. Not enough that I'd risk the campaign on it.
Good news is that his opponents are doing his campaigning for him :rotate:
In both cases the kids were fine, yet in both cases it was used to dunk on the politician. This doesn't make the politician look bad, it makes their opponents look bad. It's an own goal. If the election was decided on this, then ScoMo would easily win. Thank goodness it isn't.
Edit- "gaffes" are something of a bugbear for me. The media loves to pretend that something embarrassing can throw out a campaign because it makes the media look interesting and important. But generally, gaffes are not important. Yes it was funny when Ed Miliband ate the sandwich, but it didn't affect his polling which was already on a downward trajectory for years (in fact it stopped declining for a little bit the month after he ate the sandwich). That American guy did the "yeehaw" but he was already so far behind that he had no way of winning. Trump had so many gaffes, weird handshakes, twitter typos, well done steaks, fast food dinners, scoops of ice cream and none of that had an impact on people's voting. The couple I can recall that did have an impact on polling weren't even gaffes, he insulted a veteran's family and said "grab 'em by the pussy" in a recording. (Using overseas examples as they have better polling, you can look at a gaffe and then see no response in polling)
In Australian politics, I think of Tony Abbott. The guy who is infamous for wearing budgie smugglers and eating a raw onion. Both of which were his most endearing traits. It's a very strange way to attack a person. He's an awful man and he ought be infamous for more than what he wears and eats but that's not what people remember.
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None of this matters. Kids are way more durable than you think. It's a lot harder to land on someone you are trying not to land on in order to break them badly than you think also, cos people are obviously trying not to do that.
Just...
None of it matters.
Ignore it.
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Yeah, the quality of Greens candidates varies a lot (to be expected, of course), and I am so happy that Bandt is the one they got into the lower house.
I don't know where he got the scorpions, or how he got them into my mattress.
I'm happy to hear that permanent half price public transport is being rolled into the community services card.
The payment is.. Something? To be honest, I dislike the you're getting the Winter Energy Payment? You don't get it. It also just in general feels bandaidy.
Pharmac getting more is good, as is medical funding. Both seem very sorely needed
That said I'm not seeing a lot that fits anything to fix the underlying issues with wealth inequality, inflation etc. Lack of rent controls for instance. Though I'm not sure how one goes about fixing those really.
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The greens really leaning hard into being the party for disillusioned millennials and as a member of said group I am HERE for it
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I'm glad the project I've been working on as BUDGET SENSITIVE #1 for the last 3 months got announced, and so I still have something to do until July 2023.
Greens get whacked with the media stick for apparently taking radically irresponsible positions re: the economy, but for me it's depressing that our captured media considers the Liberal benchmark of give public money to and swing things as far as possible in favour of your specific business mates to be the epitome of "responsible economic management."
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I don't know where he got the scorpions, or how he got them into my mattress.
TLDR; The Liberals win elections because they've figured out how to give the maximum possible money to the minimum number of people needed to swing the election their way. The Ginas, the Ruperts, the Clives. These people (especially Rupert) are the keys to power in Australia, and its easier to send them all a big bag of money than to bother with trifling things like what the public actually wants; the keys to power will tell the public what they want. Labor, meanwhile, is trying to appeal to demographics, which is a lot harder than sending kickbacks to a select group of high-level executives and policymakers.
This also explains why they all have giant stiffys for the mining industry; mining naturally puts a lot of money and therefore power into the hands of a few people, and a few people are easily influenced. If Australia's economy was dominated by the IT or Manufacturing sectors, they might actually have to worry about making policies that appeal to people in those industries. So lets not diversify our economy, lets base our entire economy around digging shit out of the ground and selling it to China, what could possibly go wrong?
Perhaps we should look at systems of governance that structurally, fundamentally, work against individuals accumulating enough treasure that such a thing is possible
Perhaps we should look at systems of governance that structurally, fundamentally, work against individuals accumulating enough treasure that such a thing is possible
look I tried but the Socialist Alliance weren't running a candidate in my electorate this year.
An artist has turned up to a Prahran polling booth with this plinth of #CoalMo. Partly made of coal and probably more effective than our current Prime Minister.
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I did the democracy and got the sausage. I also found the Federal ICAC Now party, and they got a vote.
After the last election I have zero faith in the Australian electorate. They showed themselves on the whole to be parochial and selfish despite all our self-serving stereotypes. If they got bored of the LNP, all the better.
If not, I have a bottle of black Sambulca at hand. I hope it stays in the cabinet.
Is Australia similar to the U.S where the rural precincts report first?
Yep, small rural areas report first typically. Kinda similar situation to the US where there's a handful of swing areas that'll probably decide the election.
We should know soon, unless there's a freak occurence (like ten years ago, where both parties were a couple of seats short of forming government, leaving two independents to play kingmaker for several days before we knew who won).
I am very pleased to see Dutton go. The little fiefdom he's been creating for himself by consolidating portfolios was concerning, and I'll feel a lot better if Frydenberg gets the boot and Dutton is no longer sitting in the wings.
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Unfortunately, they did say it was called, and are now saying while it looks like it's projected to go that way, it is not finished
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Welp, this’ll definitely lock in my crazy cousin/aunt voting block.
"Scott Morrison just destroyed a child in Tasmania. "
*clip of ScoMo tripping and falling on a kid during a sporting event*
- Ben Graham is a journo.
Both the kid (thankfully) and ScoMo (I'll withhold judgement) appear to be fine.
But you'ld think after the classic BoJo rugby incident, putting your party's leader in a position to just wreck a child, would be a no-no in political circles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBt8AoLBCoo
Curious what the LNP reaction will be.
Ignore it.
Continue to support her.
Backflip and say they never supported her.
I can see them trying any of them, frankly.
It went Liberal every election since 1945, and Abbott won multiple times, before losing to an Independent at the last one.
So, whether that's an outlier, or a change of philosophy, we just don't know yet.
We don't have polling (or reliable partisanship) to the depth that the US does, so there's unlikely to be a reliable predictor until Saturday arvo.
So many bulldozer takes already.
I do appreciate the no-shirts kid taking the shot after the PM clobbers the defender though.
Oh no! Scomo tripped and fell! Truly, he is not Prime Minister material. Fuck this just makes me angry. Genuinely, this makes him look like a loveable oaf. BoJo's relied on the same persona for decades and it never lost him an election. All this is free advertising for him. It's not an own, anyone who cares wasn't voting for him, its entirely to his benefit.
It hasn't, because in both cases, the kids were fine.
If the kid had been seriously hurt/hospitalized/worse, then it'd be THE story.
A 100+kg man landing on top of kid less than half his weight, there's a not insignificant chance that the kid doesn't just laugh it off. Not enough that I'd risk the campaign on it.
In both cases the kids were fine, yet in both cases it was used to dunk on the politician. This doesn't make the politician look bad, it makes their opponents look bad. It's an own goal. If the election was decided on this, then ScoMo would easily win. Thank goodness it isn't.
Edit- "gaffes" are something of a bugbear for me. The media loves to pretend that something embarrassing can throw out a campaign because it makes the media look interesting and important. But generally, gaffes are not important. Yes it was funny when Ed Miliband ate the sandwich, but it didn't affect his polling which was already on a downward trajectory for years (in fact it stopped declining for a little bit the month after he ate the sandwich). That American guy did the "yeehaw" but he was already so far behind that he had no way of winning. Trump had so many gaffes, weird handshakes, twitter typos, well done steaks, fast food dinners, scoops of ice cream and none of that had an impact on people's voting. The couple I can recall that did have an impact on polling weren't even gaffes, he insulted a veteran's family and said "grab 'em by the pussy" in a recording. (Using overseas examples as they have better polling, you can look at a gaffe and then see no response in polling)
In Australian politics, I think of Tony Abbott. The guy who is infamous for wearing budgie smugglers and eating a raw onion. Both of which were his most endearing traits. It's a very strange way to attack a person. He's an awful man and he ought be infamous for more than what he wears and eats but that's not what people remember.
Just...
None of it matters.
Ignore it.
I enjoy numbering every box, but... boy, wish there was just the one fascist party to put last!
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I'm happy to hear that permanent half price public transport is being rolled into the community services card.
The payment is.. Something? To be honest, I dislike the you're getting the Winter Energy Payment? You don't get it. It also just in general feels bandaidy.
Pharmac getting more is good, as is medical funding. Both seem very sorely needed
That said I'm not seeing a lot that fits anything to fix the underlying issues with wealth inequality, inflation etc. Lack of rent controls for instance. Though I'm not sure how one goes about fixing those really.
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TLDR; The Liberals win elections because they've figured out how to give the maximum possible money to the minimum number of people needed to swing the election their way. The Ginas, the Ruperts, the Clives. These people (especially Rupert) are the keys to power in Australia, and its easier to send them all a big bag of money than to bother with trifling things like what the public actually wants; the keys to power will tell the public what they want. Labor, meanwhile, is trying to appeal to demographics, which is a lot harder than sending kickbacks to a select group of high-level executives and policymakers.
This also explains why they all have giant stiffys for the mining industry; mining naturally puts a lot of money and therefore power into the hands of a few people, and a few people are easily influenced. If Australia's economy was dominated by the IT or Manufacturing sectors, they might actually have to worry about making policies that appeal to people in those industries. So lets not diversify our economy, lets base our entire economy around digging shit out of the ground and selling it to China, what could possibly go wrong?
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
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look I tried but the Socialist Alliance weren't running a candidate in my electorate this year.
Oh great, just the PM repeating anti lockdown garbage.
It’s over now don’t you know, so we can lie about it and curry favor with idiots.
Fuck off, Morrison.
Hi 5! They got my first preference for the Senate.
After the last election I have zero faith in the Australian electorate. They showed themselves on the whole to be parochial and selfish despite all our self-serving stereotypes. If they got bored of the LNP, all the better.
If not, I have a bottle of black Sambulca at hand. I hope it stays in the cabinet.
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Might break out some whisky.
Yep, small rural areas report first typically. Kinda similar situation to the US where there's a handful of swing areas that'll probably decide the election.
We should know soon, unless there's a freak occurence (like ten years ago, where both parties were a couple of seats short of forming government, leaving two independents to play kingmaker for several days before we knew who won).
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Also, If I was doing a drinking game, "Early Days" would kill me.
Get dunked, Dutton.
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Wait seriously? If nothing else goes right tonight that's it's own victory.