I generally felt close friends or siblings, although
Gideon's brief narrative period towards the end of Harrow includes her basically telling whats-her-face "You were just a rebound for me so back the fuck off"
Yeah they've never experienced anything like a normal relationship, either familial, platonic, or romantic, until they meet the people from the other Houses.
They grew up in one of most shit places in the solar system, and then events transpired which made their childhood more shit than that even.
There's a couple bits in the pool scene that make it seem pretty clearly to at least have the possibility of romance. Like Gideon leans in close to Harrow and Harrow totally freezes up and looks all nervous, she clearly thinks Gideon is gonna kiss her. There's like 3 different lines like that.
Also lines about Gideon finally, to her extreme resistance, finally realizing she thinks Harrow is beautiful.
And then in Harrow
Gideon pretty much admits to Ianthe that A, She's in love with Harrow and B, nothing she's done was based on trying to make Harrow like her back. She's sure Harrow's only in love with the Body, which doesn't really seem like it's exactly true.
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A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
There's a couple bits in the pool scene that make it seem pretty clearly to at least have the possibility of romance. Like Gideon leans in close to Harrow and Harrow totally freezes up and looks all nervous, she clearly thinks Gideon is gonna kiss her. There's like 3 different lines like that.
And then in Harrow
Gideon pretty much admits to Ianthe that A, She's in love with Harrow and B, nothing she's done was based on trying to make Harrow like her back. She's sure Harrow's only in love with the Body, which doesn't really seem like it's exactly true.
I generally avoid previews but for those who do partake I guess at torcon there’s going to be a special prerecorded message from Muir with previews for Alecto. I think it’s 6/9 but I might be wrong on the date.
I generally avoid previews but for those who do partake I guess at torcon there’s going to be a special prerecorded message from Muir with previews for Alecto. I think it’s 6/9 but I might be wrong on the date.
I haven't read Harrow yet but I really loved Gideon and I have it saved on my Kindle. Personally I hope we get a nice happy ending for Gideon and Harrow. Life sucks enough right now that I am tired of bittersweet and sad endings.
Tor put As Yet Unsent up on its website. It was a bit at the end of some versions of Harrow (the paperback?), but like my kindle version doesn't have it. Spoilers for Gideon and Harrow, obviously.
Dyas kinda reminds of the pov chapters of like certain Game of Thrones characters - noble from inside her own pov but really mostly just deeply incurious and kinda dumb in reality.
And Coronabeth is maybe the weirdest character out of all the weird Locked Tomb characters?
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Tor put As Yet Unsent up on its website. It was a bit at the end of some versions of Harrow (the paperback?), but like my kindle version doesn't have it. Spoilers for Gideon and Harrow, obviously.
Dyas kinda reminds of the pov chapters of like certain Game of Thrones characters - noble from inside her own pov but really mostly just deeply incurious and kinda dumb in reality.
And Coronabeth is maybe the weirdest character out of all the weird Locked Tomb characters?
She's lived a pretty weird life to be fair. I'm still wondering what the impetus for her whole situation was. I'm pretty sure both twins could do without all the subterfuge.
While I'm here, crackpot theory/foolish hope time!
Harrow spoilers
Mercymorn is still alive. The thing she was working on that Augustine blackmailed her about was trying to create backup bodies she could ride a thanergy link to. This is pretty much baseless, but she did know a lot about biology and I can't think of anything else Augustine could tell John about that wouldn't get him in trouble too.
I think this link should work - Amazon has their early preview sample available now, which includes a bit more than we had gotten previously
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Weird. This preview appears to be available on the desktop site, but not the mobile site or Kindle app.
I'm also seeing a listing for Nona the Ninth Sneak Peek, with a release date of 12th of July. Not entirely clear if that's even more preview or the same.
It's longer than the previous samples, but there's also a bit in Amazon's hardcover sample that isn't in this sneak peek.
I guess the situation with Camilla and Palamedes is something lyctor-ish, but slightly different. So far it sounds like they can switch whenever they want, but it draws the attention of a resurrection beast if Palamedes is out for too long.
Unless I'm forgetting something, this book is the first time we have people that aren't part of the nine houses or directly opposed to them.
I forget if I mentioned this but I lost the cool preorder pin i got for the harrow paperback release, so I asked at the bookstore if those kinds of things were generally one offs that I'd never find again or if there were swag sales places (beyond endlessly trawling ebay).
They ended up not really knowing but were nice enough to check if they happened to have any still. They didn't but gave me a signed bookplate that they had a bunch of I think for when nona comes out so that's neat.
It has occurred to me that the sense of humor in The Locked Tomb is sort of similar to the humor in the work of Taika Waititi. Although I guess Taika's stuff is a bit goofier.
And now I feel like, in the event that a TV or movie adaptation ever happens, he should be the one to play John.
It has occurred to me that the sense of humor in The Locked Tomb is sort of similar to the humor in the work of Taika Waititi. Although I guess Taika's stuff is a bit goofier.
And now I feel like, in the event that a TV or movie adaptation ever happens, he should be the one to play John.
New Zealand humor poised to take the world by storm.
I've had enough of these previews and preview chapters and sneak peeks all released at a dribbling pace.
Open the content faucet!
This is the book that ended up being two books, right? I like the series a lot and Muir herself seems to be my type of bullshit, but I've also seen this kind of thing completely destroy series I like.
One of the little details I like about the beginning that you don't really have context to fully understand until you're rereading is how Harrow plans for Gideon to go with her to the first house from the beginning. Like Gideon just thinks of the whole thing as another way for Harrow to defeat her newest escape attempt, and sure it kinda is, but Harrow could've done that by just cancelling the shuttle flight, or a dozen other ways. Harrow wanted to get Ortus on the shuttle, so she could bring Gideon with her instead. It really is their whole toxic relationship in miniature - Harrow doesn't stop Gideon from leaving just because fuck Gideon, but because she can't bear Gideon leaving her (and also fuck Gideon, because their relationship is toxic af).
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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It has occurred to me that the sense of humor in The Locked Tomb is sort of similar to the humor in the work of Taika Waititi. Although I guess Taika's stuff is a bit goofier.
And now I feel like, in the event that a TV or movie adaptation ever happens, he should be the one to play John.
u wot
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
In Gideon the Ninth, I'd say a lot of the humor comes from Gideon herself, for which I am including the narration and her interacting with characters that are attempting to be deadly serious.
For Taika Waititi's work, I'd say the humor is spread more evenly across the cast and also includes visual gags. To me that makes it feel sillier.
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I mean, in Harrow
You find out that Gideon's mom's name is a fuckin Eminem lyric.
EDIT And never forget None Houses with Left Grief
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You find out that Gideon's mom's name is a fuckin Eminem lyric.
EDIT And never forget None Houses with Left Grief
"Hi really fucking pissed off, I'm dad"
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I had never even heard of the "none beef" meme, but that sentence was so weirdly written I had to Google it.
I was delighted at the history.
I am in the business of saving lives.
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Muir's combination of writing something that gives you just enough of the eons of history of the setting, but not so much as to invite nitpicking analysis is a really special talent. She also describes just how weird and self destructive immortality would be.
Then, out of seemingly no where, she decides to just start the fictional writing version of shit posting for some exquisitely awful jokes that round back to amazing.
I also appreciate her openness about her mental health.
Seriously, her description of banana flavored antipsychotics is something I'll think about randomly most days.
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I don't know about weird or not but there are several parts of Harrow that make it explicit text.
Like sisters!
They grew up in one of most shit places in the solar system, and then events transpired which made their childhood more shit than that even.
Also lines about Gideon finally, to her extreme resistance, finally realizing she thinks Harrow is beautiful.
And then in Harrow
Ianthe sure dont think it's true.
6/9 is absolutely the date Muir would pick
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Tor put As Yet Unsent up on its website. It was a bit at the end of some versions of Harrow (the paperback?), but like my kindle version doesn't have it. Spoilers for Gideon and Harrow, obviously.
Dyas kinda reminds of the pov chapters of like certain Game of Thrones characters - noble from inside her own pov but really mostly just deeply incurious and kinda dumb in reality.
And Coronabeth is maybe the weirdest character out of all the weird Locked Tomb characters?
She's lived a pretty weird life to be fair. I'm still wondering what the impetus for her whole situation was. I'm pretty sure both twins could do without all the subterfuge.
Harrow spoilers
I think this link should work - Amazon has their early preview sample available now, which includes a bit more than we had gotten previously
I'm also seeing a listing for Nona the Ninth Sneak Peek, with a release date of 12th of July. Not entirely clear if that's even more preview or the same.
It's longer than the previous samples, but there's also a bit in Amazon's hardcover sample that isn't in this sneak peek.
Unless I'm forgetting something, this book is the first time we have people that aren't part of the nine houses or directly opposed to them.
I've had enough of these previews and preview chapters and sneak peeks all released at a dribbling pace.
Open the content faucet!
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
They ended up not really knowing but were nice enough to check if they happened to have any still. They didn't but gave me a signed bookplate that they had a bunch of I think for when nona comes out so that's neat.
And now I feel like, in the event that a TV or movie adaptation ever happens, he should be the one to play John.
New Zealand humor poised to take the world by storm.
This is the book that ended up being two books, right? I like the series a lot and Muir herself seems to be my type of bullshit, but I've also seen this kind of thing completely destroy series I like.
I hope it turns out okay.
One of the little details I like about the beginning that you don't really have context to fully understand until you're rereading is how Harrow plans for Gideon to go with her to the first house from the beginning. Like Gideon just thinks of the whole thing as another way for Harrow to defeat her newest escape attempt, and sure it kinda is, but Harrow could've done that by just cancelling the shuttle flight, or a dozen other ways. Harrow wanted to get Ortus on the shuttle, so she could bring Gideon with her instead. It really is their whole toxic relationship in miniature - Harrow doesn't stop Gideon from leaving just because fuck Gideon, but because she can't bear Gideon leaving her (and also fuck Gideon, because their relationship is toxic af).
u wot
In Gideon the Ninth, I'd say a lot of the humor comes from Gideon herself, for which I am including the narration and her interacting with characters that are attempting to be deadly serious.
For Taika Waititi's work, I'd say the humor is spread more evenly across the cast and also includes visual gags. To me that makes it feel sillier.
EDIT And never forget None Houses with Left Grief
Wasn't it
I was delighted at the history.
My reaction was more cursing and raising my fist to the sky, but yeah
Then, out of seemingly no where, she decides to just start the fictional writing version of shit posting for some exquisitely awful jokes that round back to amazing.
I also appreciate her openness about her mental health.
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