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  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    edited June 2022
    Baby has a fever, I don't remember Lore being sick until much older on account of quarantine from COVID. What am I allowed to give a three month old medicine wise?

    3 months is right on the edge of when you can give infant Tylenol without a doctor consult. It's mainly based on weight thought, dosages start when they're 11-12ish pounds.

    He was 14 pounds a month ago so no issues there. We called the nurses line for our pediatrician and she said we could give a tiny amount of acetaminophen and to monitor to make sure his temp didn't go much higher. He seems in decent spirits otherwise fortunately.

    Possibly too late now, but is it just a fever, or is it accompanied by a lot more uncomfortableness? I'm just going to throw out that treating a fever doesn't really help treat what's causing it.

    https://www.westchesterhealth.com/blog/why-in-most-cases-you-should-let-your-babys-fever-run-its-course/
    https://www.stanfordchildrens.org/en/topic/default?id=not-all-fevers-need-treatment-88-p11048
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/fever/in-depth/fever/art-20050997

    Treating for comfort is totally understandable, though! And if it's high enough, you should not only treat it but seek medical attention, of course. The Mayo article gives good guidelines on when to make the call to go to the doctor.

    I read this advice (and also a later-debunked study linking acetaminophen use in children to increased risk for asthma) when our kids were infants/toddlers. I almost never give my kids anything if they're otherwise okay. They run around just fine with 101 degree fevers.

    dennis on
  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited June 2022
    Brody wrote: »
    Sorry for the double post, but I know in the past people have mentioned a book that helped navigate the "where do babies come from" conversation, and Sapling is very insistent that we explain it to her.
    It's Not the Stork is highly recommended by most people I know. I haven't read it myself, but that's the current go-to.

    We just told our daughter straight up how babies are made (usually it's a mom and a dad, things are stuck into other things, sperms and eggs etc). But only grown-ups do that and can have babies, ok? Sure!

    Some months later she comes back with "Dad, if only grown-ups can have babies. Who had the first baby!?"

    And that's how we ended up spending an afternoon explaining evolution to our 3-year old. Including the families of the animal kingdom as she pointed out that our dog couldn't have come from a monkey...

    I love it when she asks the right questions, it means we are doing something right at least.

    Movitz on
  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    My daughter just told her first original joke (though not first attempt at an original joke):

    What did the chicken say to the dinosaur?
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    "We're 'roar-lated'."
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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    The wife was having a hard few weeks at work and her anxiety was super high. Having tried the usual stuff, I asked her what she was listening to while doing her work upstairs. She said it was some YT videos and occasionally a few Glee songs.

    "Nah man, fuck that. There's your problem. You're listening to garbage. You wanna feel better? Open an 80s Rock playlist on Spotify."
    "What? That's stupid."
    "Just try it, trust me."
    "Ugh, fine!"

    *30 minutes later*

    "How is this working? Why do I feel so much better listening to these old ass songs?"
    "You see, music from post-2000 is great. Easy to sing along to, hum, or just enjoy in the background. But rock from the 70s and 80s demands a part of your soul gets excited and it refuses to leave you alone until it gets what it wants."

    For context, my wife was born in China and didn't come to America until the mid-90s. She's hardly heard any rock from the 70s or 80s unless it was in a movie or tv show. Like, a lot of awful Glee remixes (ugh!). While she's not a hardcore fan, that playlist has been up and running on her second monitor ever since. Never underestimate the power of hype/uplifting/actiony rock to knock you out of a funk.

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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    Movitz wrote: »
    Brody wrote: »
    Sorry for the double post, but I know in the past people have mentioned a book that helped navigate the "where do babies come from" conversation, and Sapling is very insistent that we explain it to her.
    It's Not the Stork is highly recommended by most people I know. I haven't read it myself, but that's the current go-to.

    We just told our daughter straight up how babies are made (usually it's a mom and a dad, things are stuck into other things, sperms and eggs etc). But only grown-ups do that and can have babies, ok? Sure!

    Some months later she comes back with "Dad, if only grown-ups can have babies. Who had the first baby!?"

    And that's how we ended up spending an afternoon explaining evolution to our 3-year old. Including the families of the animal kingdom as she pointed out that our dog couldn't have come from a monkey...

    I love it when she asks the right questions, it means we are doing something right at least.

    I love that it shows that as far as your daughter knows, your dog is part of the family. Pack bond is humanity's super power.

  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Movitz wrote: »
    Brody wrote: »
    Sorry for the double post, but I know in the past people have mentioned a book that helped navigate the "where do babies come from" conversation, and Sapling is very insistent that we explain it to her.
    It's Not the Stork is highly recommended by most people I know. I haven't read it myself, but that's the current go-to.

    We just told our daughter straight up how babies are made (usually it's a mom and a dad, things are stuck into other things, sperms and eggs etc). But only grown-ups do that and can have babies, ok? Sure!

    Some months later she comes back with "Dad, if only grown-ups can have babies. Who had the first baby!?"

    And that's how we ended up spending an afternoon explaining evolution to our 3-year old. Including the families of the animal kingdom as she pointed out that our dog couldn't have come from a monkey...

    I love it when she asks the right questions, it means we are doing something right at least.

    Haha. Sapling had almost exactly the same question half way through the book. I figured we'd give it a couple of weeks before I start diving into evolution, trying to avoid hitting a flash point with my religious parents for as long as possible.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Meanwhile, I'm setting up some Punnet Squares for Ellie because she has some *interesting* thoughts about why her friends have brown eyes and/or green eyes

    So the mom of the family has brown eyes and is older than the dad who has green eyes. And the older kid has brown eyes and the young kid at green eyes so *obviously* the eye colour has to do with age.

    So yeah, time for my 6 year old to learn some basics on Dominant and Recessive genes.

  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    edited June 2022
    You can even get advanced, as brown > green > blue!

    Edit: And then I start talking to my son about it, and he asks questions, and I find out eye pigmentation is WAY more complicated. :grin:

    dennis on
  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited June 2022
    dennis wrote: »
    You can even get advanced, as brown > green > blue!

    Edit: And then I start talking to my son about it, and he asks questions, and I find out eye pigmentation is WAY more complicated. :grin:

    Reminds me of how I learned the complexities of the fusion cycle in stars by accident.

    Edit: Lithium does not come after helium in the stellar fusion cycle, and that confused the heck out of me.

    Brody on
    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
  • Blackhawk1313Blackhawk1313 Demon Hunter for Hire Time RiftRegistered User regular
    edited June 2022
    Brody wrote: »
    dennis wrote: »
    You can even get advanced, as brown > green > blue!

    Edit: And then I start talking to my son about it, and he asks questions, and I find out eye pigmentation is WAY more complicated. :grin:

    Reminds me of how I learned the complexities of the fusion cycle in stars by accident.

    Edit: Lithium does not come after helium in the stellar fusion cycle, and that confused the heck out of me.

    I usually use a pretty static chart to explain it and then weave in the other complexities later:

    Hydrogen plus Hydrogen produces helium
    Helium Triple-alpha (three helium-4) produce Carbon
    Carbon plus helium produces oxygen.
    Oxygen plus helium produces neon.
    Neon plus helium produces magnesium.
    Magnesium plus helium produces silicon.
    Silicon plus helium produces sulfur.
    Sulfur plus helium produces argon.
    Argon plus helium produces calcium.
    Calcium plus helium produces titanium.
    Titanium plus helium produces chromium.
    Chromium plus helium produces iron.

    The basic gist is what is produced from helium onward is heavier elements but only those with even numbers of protons until iron. It stops at iron because iron is so tightly bound there is no energy extraction that can occur, fusion of it only happens if other forces overcome nuclear bonds to push it that way on to the more explosive, collapsing-type ends.

    Lithium does have an interesting part in fusion but it’s a thing happening in brown dwarfs and not standard fusion.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    Does anyone have any tips on getting a little one to talk? Lately I've started kind of worrying about our 16 month old's speech.

    The little dude babbles like crazy. He's always mumbling to himself and quite often stands there and orders me around with a series of points and grunts. But I can not get him to say a word, or repeat anything I say to him.

    He's incredibly communicative, but outside of "mama" and "Dada" (the latter of which he has kind of stopped saying), he doesn't say any actual words. When I said "do you want to go out? Can you say out?" He simply walks to the door and starts pulling on the knob. When I said "Can you say goodbye?" he waves. When I say "Lets say Thank You" he does the sign language. Same with "Would you like more?", he does the sign language for more.

    So he understands me, and he communicates back, but I can not figure out how to get him to repeat anything back to me. I know he understands "Can you say..." because if I ask, can you say mama, he does it immediately. But if I say, "Can you say hi?", it's always a hand wave.

    Any ideas, or should I just not worry about it?

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  • GorkGork Registered User regular
    edited June 2022
    I think you don’t really need to worry about it until much later but you should ask your pediatrician if you’re really concerned. Anecdotally, boys start talking later than girls, but 16 months is still early.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    My daughter didn't really start using words until around 18 or so months. She also didn't walk until around the same time. Then out of nowhere a switch happened and 9 years later she doesn't stop talking lol

    Is he around other children his age? Maybe it would help.

  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Also, if they are the firstborn or only child, (especially if they don't attend daycare) talking often comes later simply because they don't have an example to follow. Don't worry, he'll learn, even though it will feel like it will take forever.

  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    Awesome - of course, as with all things, I saw some chart that was like "By 14 months they should have 3 words" and I was like, oh shit. WHAT HAVE I DONE?

    They are the first, and thanks to COVID they're also kind of stuck with mom and dad only for 90% of their time.

    He has started dancing, so until the talking starts I'm going to enjoy his patented right foot stop while left arm swings wildly. His grandparents gave him this "Tonie" box that has little NFC figures you can pop on it that do different things, and he's learned the little dog means its time to get the Wheels on the Bus party started.

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  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    edited June 2022
    urahonky wrote: »
    My daughter didn't really start using words until around 18 or so months. [...] Then out of nowhere a switch happened and 9 years later she doesn't stop talking lol

    That's what my mom has said about me. Repeatedly.

    dennis on
  • Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited June 2022
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Awesome - of course, as with all things, I saw some chart that was like "By 14 months they should have 3 words" and I was like, oh shit. WHAT HAVE I DONE?

    They are the first, and thanks to COVID they're also kind of stuck with mom and dad only for 90% of their time.

    He has started dancing, so until the talking starts I'm going to enjoy his patented right foot stop while left arm swings wildly. His grandparents gave him this "Tonie" box that has little NFC figures you can pop on it that do different things, and he's learned the little dog means its time to get the Wheels on the Bus party started.

    Anecdotally our pediatrician told us that since COVID kids are a little slower to develop verbally than they used to be because they aren't around as many talking people as before but it's not so much slower as to be a concern.

    Also, to keep in mind for those "should have x words by y age" things; you count as a "word" anything that they do consistently to communicate a concept to you. For example, if your kid knows the baby sign for 'more' and uses it at dinner to ask for more food that's a word even if it's not out loud. Likewise it doesn't even have to be the right word if it's out loud, if they say 'boose' and give you their cup and you know they want more juice because 'boose' is what they call juice that's a word.

    Edit: damn you drafts feature you got me again.

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  • Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited June 2022
    To update on sick baby because I had a leftover draft that I forgot to post; he recovered after about 18 hours and 4 enormous poops so we're guessing he had a bit of upset stomach. He even slept okay last night which is good because Mrs. Red Robe had to hold him all night the previous night for him to sleep at all and she really didn't want to do that again.

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  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    Also, to keep in mind for those "should have x words by y age" things; you count as a "word" anything that they do consistently to communicate a concept to you.

    My son's first "word" was "dis". It meant "cat". Near as we could figure out, he was picking up us saying "What's THIS?" and one thing led to another...

    Also, he fairly early called me "Dah." After he started doing that, it was like a month or two and he still hadn't called his mom anything. He had picked up all kinds of other words, like "banana." At one point, he called her "manana" and we went with that. She was "manana" for quite a while before he finally picked up "mah" or something.

    Of course, I should point out he is autistic. However, he's extremely talkative so that might just be coincidental. Sometimes he talks like a Victorian gentleman. Yesterday he asked his sister, "Shall I do it?"

  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    Also, to keep in mind for those "should have x words by y age" things; you count as a "word" anything that they do consistently to communicate a concept to you.

    My son's first "word" was "dis". It meant "cat". Near as we could figure out, he was picking up us saying "What's THIS?" and one thing led to another...

    Also, he fairly early called me "Dah." After he started doing that, it was like a month or two and he still hadn't called his mom anything. He had picked up all kinds of other words, like "banana." At one point, he called her "manana" and we went with that. She was "manana" for quite a while before he finally picked up "mah" or something.

    Of course, I should point out he is autistic. However, he's extremely talkative so that might just be coincidental. Sometimes he talks like a Victorian gentleman. Yesterday he asked his sister, "Shall I do it?"

    Neither of my boys started talking much beyond mama/baba and maybe 3-4 more things until they were older than 2. But, we have a bilingual household and that apparently delays things. They're now 2.5/4.5 and talk constantly.

  • R-demR-dem Registered User regular
    Yeah my daughter didn't talk to the point that our pediatrician got us set up with early intervention, and she still didn't really talk, and everyone was panicking, and my dad was like "Enjoy it, in a year she won't shut up" and lo and behold a year later all the words that were dammed up were released in a giant flood that has yet to subside.

    Obviously talk to your pediatrician and such, but I'm another data point on the "baby didn't talk until suddenly ALL THE TALKING" scale.

  • m!ttensm!ttens he/himRegistered User regular
    Our daughter didn't start speaking by the typical times expected, so we started going down the intervention path. We had a zoom call with the team because she was around 18 months May/June 2020 and everything was on lockdown. Luckily for us, the team said her hearing seemed fine (she would look when we called her name or made a clap or other sound outside her vision) and she would try to do some of the sign language so they thought she was just a little slow on the speech development, which was relatively common on premature babies (she was born at 36 weeks). Probably 2 weeks after that session, her first word was uttered, "bubbles" and we haven't been able to get her to be quiet ever since :lol:

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    My son's first "word" was "dis". It meant "cat". Near as we could figure out, he was picking up us saying "What's THIS?" and one thing led to another...

    Henry did something similar starting about 4 months. He'd point at something and say "sat". If you didn't respond, he'd do it again more insistently. If you answered he'd point to something else, "sat". Asking "what's that". His actual first word wasn't for another 6 months, when he said "duck" at 10 months old, but for those 6 months he never stopped asking what stuff was.

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  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    Generally, if it's a problem and they aren't interacting/ communicating in their own way,... then it's more of a concern. Could be hearing issues, or something else a doctor should be aware of to look at.
    We took my son to speech therapy when he had a hard time communicating, and would have massive melt- downs due to not being understood. But if they're ok, and doctor thinks they're ok, then milestones really are just basic guidelines

    If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    First - early talker, full sentences by a year
    Middle - basically normal, right on the average milestones
    Last - didn't speak more than a few words until nearly 2, then jumped to fully formed sentences within a week.

  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    edited June 2022
    spool32 wrote: »
    First - early talker, full sentences by a year
    Middle - basically normal, right on the average milestones
    Last - didn't speak more than a few words until nearly 2, then jumped to fully formed sentences within a week.

    I also wonder how much it has to do with siblings. You can make the argument that they hear more words and thus should be speaking earlier. But on the other hand, sometimes it's hard to get a word in edgewise, and siblings often take it upon themselves to speak for you.

    Before I (youngest of three brothers, 3 and 4 years older) entered my "won't shut up" phase, I apparently would give very short responses to questions. Like "yes", "no", or "I don't like it". My mom said I understood everything and could talk, but just seemed to choose not to.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    First - early talker, full sentences by a year
    Middle - basically normal, right on the average milestones
    Last - didn't speak more than a few words until nearly 2, then jumped to fully formed sentences within a week.

    I also wonder how much it has to do with siblings. You can make the argument that they hear more words and thus should be speaking earlier. But on the other hand, sometimes it's hard to get a word in edgewise, and siblings often take it upon themselves to speak for you.

    Before I (youngest of three brothers, 3 and 4 years older) entered my "won't shut up" phase, I apparently would give very short responses to questions. Like "yes", "no", or "I don't like it". My mom said I understood everything and could talk, but just seemed to choose not to.

    Yeah, my older kid will kind of interpret what the younger one wants. So the younger one didn't need to actually "speak" as much.

  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    R-dem wrote: »
    Yeah my daughter didn't talk to the point that our pediatrician got us set up with early intervention, and she still didn't really talk, and everyone was panicking, and my dad was like "Enjoy it, in a year she won't shut up" and lo and behold a year later all the words that were dammed up were released in a giant flood that has yet to subside.

    Obviously talk to your pediatrician and such, but I'm another data point on the "baby didn't talk until suddenly ALL THE TALKING" scale.

    We qualified for early intervention for my daughter for both speech and walking. In the two weeks between the scheduling of the evaluation and the actual day of, she started not just walking, but running. We still did the speech sessions and it was fantastic. We obviously can’t know how she would have done without them, but she really improved dramatically and (mostly) loved them.

    My second kid didn’t qualify, and we really wish he had.

  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Does anyone have any tips on getting a little one to talk? Lately I've started kind of worrying about our 16 month old's speech.

    The little dude babbles like crazy. He's always mumbling to himself and quite often stands there and orders me around with a series of points and grunts. But I can not get him to say a word, or repeat anything I say to him.

    He's incredibly communicative, but outside of "mama" and "Dada" (the latter of which he has kind of stopped saying), he doesn't say any actual words. When I said "do you want to go out? Can you say out?" He simply walks to the door and starts pulling on the knob. When I said "Can you say goodbye?" he waves. When I say "Lets say Thank You" he does the sign language. Same with "Would you like more?", he does the sign language for more.

    So he understands me, and he communicates back, but I can not figure out how to get him to repeat anything back to me. I know he understands "Can you say..." because if I ask, can you say mama, he does it immediately. But if I say, "Can you say hi?", it's always a hand wave.

    Any ideas, or should I just not worry about it?

    According to my mom, I only babbled and didn't speak until I was 3 years old. My pediatrician told her there was obviously nothing wrong with my throat or voice, so nothing to worry about. Every child develop at their own pace, and I was just later than average when it came to speaking. Once I started talking, I basically skipped the entire baby-talk phase and caught up with the other 3 year olds.

    From what you describe, your son is intelligent, understands you fine and communicates well. He can vocalize, he's just not ready to do it as his main form of communication yet. Keep trying, but don't stress out, is my advice.

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  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    Talking about the dah/manana story above just made me have to hunt down this clip again. I think it's a good one for any parents of young children to watch. I'm not sure it actually helps, but maybe it lowers your expectations while also letting you know you're not along in your misery.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vR0QAN9Jlw

    They'll just straight up tell you these things. Even though my son said "dah" first, I have been that man. Often kids will alternate over time.

  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    I'll echo what others have said, don't panic.

    Kiddo is doing fine with communication and letting you know their needs. Sign language is still communication.

    You are still able to get through the majority of life tasks without the dreaded "I can't communicate what I want and it's super frustrating that the giant human doesn't understand me so I'm going to have a ridiculous tantrum because I lack basic communication skills" situation.

    The amount of times I would utter the phrase "user your words" to Ellie was ridiculous. And she would get So Angry because obviously mommy understood what she wanted so why am I not just giving it to her FFS. "Use your words". Fiiiiinnneeee mommy, "cup". "Yes we can get a drink now. Good job!"

    But then she was using sign when she was 5 months old? And talking non stop at a year (help me she still is talking. Help).

    But yes, sign is still communication. Lean into it even, give them a second language and stick with it if you can.

  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    I don't think I'll ever not laugh when my 3 year year old says titty instead of kitty....

  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    How clean should a 4 year old be?

    My 4 year old is mostly clean. At daycare, at her grandparents, in public, she's fine. But at home she's careless and pees and even poops herself. She's also still wearing pull-ups to sleep, and peeing at night doesn't wake her up.

    How does that line up with people's experiences?

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  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    I don't think I'll ever not laugh when my 3 year year old says titty instead of kitty....

    Our daughter sometimes had an itch in her... pachina.

  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    How clean should a 4 year old be?

    My 4 year old is mostly clean. At daycare, at her grandparents, in public, she's fine. But at home she's careless and pees and even poops herself. She's also still wearing pull-ups to sleep, and peeing at night doesn't wake her up.

    How does that line up with people's experiences?

    While nighttime poops were rare, I think it was probably until she was about 6 that our daughter still had wet nighttime pullups. We just went with the flow and figured it'd eventually work itself out. I think "mostly clean" at 4 years old is probably ahead of the curve.

  • R-demR-dem Registered User regular
    "banana" has always been and will forever be "punana" in our household.

    I blame Minions.

  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    My kid said what sounded like pussy for a long time. It took us months to figure out he was referring to Percy from Thomas and Friends.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    We have a whiteboard in the kitchen. On Christmas Eve after bedtime we wrote a "thanks for the cookies!" from Santa on the board.

    After breakfast and we had erased it, Jaina wrote "fankx for the presnints Santa" back.

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    My neighbor's kid once told me that his mom had big knockers. (Binoculars)

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    I was eating breakfast with a couple of friends and their two boys one of whom was about 5 and the other was 3

    I burped and made a ribbit sound while doing so then looked at the 5 year old, gasped in astonishment, and said "mouth frogs!"

    He promptly looked at his dad and tried to ask "mouth frogs?" except what he said was "mouvafuggehs?" which sounded way too much like "motherfuckers?"

    His mom and I busted out laughing immediately while his dad just looked at me with a dead eyed stare and said "Thanks, Happy."

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