Using Rags' trait effectively is one of his highest skill curves. It has a long cooldown, and can be really powerful when used in the right moments. But oftentimes, Rags just lets it rip. It's the same thing with global heroes burning their flight/dig inefficiently, you know what I mean?
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The thing about using the trait effectively, it takes no real mechanical skill to do it. You just pop in and start hammering your buttons on people. It's entirely a macro skill in knowing when and how to use it.
Protip: the best usage of it is after the enemy team has advanced on your teams position with their backs to a destroyed fort. You go to that fort, pop trait, and Q -> R them to a fast death
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Genji happiness is going all Deflect talents (including level 20) and standing in front of an enemy Deathwing who doesn't figure to turn off fire breath.
The game state just looked to me like one of those where your Muradin could sneak down past the other team while they're on your side and finish off the core in a second by diving it and Q+W-ing.
Man, that ARAM map with no smoke stacks is bs. Poor dehaka feels so bad.
Don't pick him on that map, lol.
aye sometimes he's the only frontline you get
If I have to choose between having no frontline in ARAM or having a character with literally only 50% functionality, I'm gonna choose no frontline 10 times out of 10, lol.
Poll: what would you say is the very worst level 20 ult upgrade talent?
caveat: I am disqualifying upgrades for troll ults like Tormented Souls and Locust Swarm
My pick would be Genji's X-Strike upgrade. A conditional cooldown reduction and absolutely nothing else? There are ult upgrades that significantly reduce cooldown in addition to other effects. You would have to hit all 5 enemy heroes in order for the upgrade to allow you to cast twice a fight. But how often is your team going to line up that perfect ult and still have an undecided fight 10 seconds later?
edit: Okay I've changed my mind to Murky's Endless March for now.
Poll: what would you say is the very worst level 20 ult upgrade talent?
caveat: I am disqualifying upgrades for troll ults like Tormented Souls and Locust Swarm
My pick would be Genji's X-Strike upgrade. A conditional cooldown reduction and absolutely nothing else? There are ult upgrades that significantly reduce cooldown in addition to other effects. You would have to hit all 5 enemy heroes in order for the upgrade to allow you to cast twice a fight. But how often is your team going to line up that perfect ult and still have an undecided fight 10 seconds later?
X-Strike can hit an individual hero up to 3 times, though (I think). Under ideal circumstances you could get a full reset off of just two heroes. More realistically it can definitely happen when hitting 3 heroes.
And like any similar talent, it likely gains some value if you're facing heroes that put extra bodies in the field like Rexxar or Samuro.
Murky 20 March has it's uses but the 20 turns it into a troll pick vs literally and CC
That's another contender. How much more value can realistically be squeezed out of March beyond its usual length?
I see so many Murkies who go all-in push and think they're going to seal the deal with Endless March. Even against a totally undefended fort, how much more push value and siege damage are you getting out of channeling Endless than you would with your regular abilities and attack?
Skeletal mages I'm not sure. I think Poison is the better ult most of the time, and Mages would only be picked in instances where a chunk of the enemy team relies on move speed. But if you WERE in a situation where you think the slow of Mages is the better pick, then enhancing the slow by a large amount isn't too bad.
Apoc 20 being weak I think is more about Apoc itself being weak. It's one of the only ults that practically requires a teammate combo to be effective. But it's practically the same upgrade as X-Strike, but better. So I'd still say X-Strike 20 is the worse upgrade.
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20 combustion on blaze is quite good as the slow enables people to get hit by the thing.
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Protip: the best usage of it is after the enemy team has advanced on your teams position with their backs to a destroyed fort. You go to that fort, pop trait, and Q -> R them to a fast death
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that was fun!
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>Cooperative Teamplayer
lmao get the fuck outta here
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Tank level health with ranged assassin level damage in the hands of people who run as far from a team fight as possible?
It's over gentlefolk
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the ai is confident hands are optional
Good lordy loo, do I hate the removal of independent AI for AFK. Oh you died while they were leashed? Womp womp, hearth.
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Don't pick him on that map, lol.
aye sometimes he's the only frontline you get
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If I have to choose between having no frontline in ARAM or having a character with literally only 50% functionality, I'm gonna choose no frontline 10 times out of 10, lol.
True, but that would also require them to like, give a shit about HotS.
ARAM is the true equalizer.
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Just something about assholes flocking to dual wield.
caveat: I am disqualifying upgrades for troll ults like Tormented Souls and Locust Swarm
My pick would be Genji's X-Strike upgrade. A conditional cooldown reduction and absolutely nothing else? There are ult upgrades that significantly reduce cooldown in addition to other effects. You would have to hit all 5 enemy heroes in order for the upgrade to allow you to cast twice a fight. But how often is your team going to line up that perfect ult and still have an undecided fight 10 seconds later?
edit: Okay I've changed my mind to Murky's Endless March for now.
And like any similar talent, it likely gains some value if you're facing heroes that put extra bodies in the field like Rexxar or Samuro.
That's another contender. How much more value can realistically be squeezed out of March beyond its usual length?
I see so many Murkies who go all-in push and think they're going to seal the deal with Endless March. Even against a totally undefended fort, how much more push value and siege damage are you getting out of channeling Endless than you would with your regular abilities and attack?
Nova triple tap 20 is pure winmore
Diablo apoc 20 is fairly useless
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Agreed on triple tap.
Skeletal mages I'm not sure. I think Poison is the better ult most of the time, and Mages would only be picked in instances where a chunk of the enemy team relies on move speed. But if you WERE in a situation where you think the slow of Mages is the better pick, then enhancing the slow by a large amount isn't too bad.
Apoc 20 being weak I think is more about Apoc itself being weak. It's one of the only ults that practically requires a teammate combo to be effective. But it's practically the same upgrade as X-Strike, but better. So I'd still say X-Strike 20 is the worse upgrade.
I'm aware bunker is technically better. But potatoes don't click it.
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I'll toss my official vote to murky lvl 20 march
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