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Maybe the real [Heroes of the Storm] were the friends we made along the way

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    Using Rags' trait effectively is one of his highest skill curves. It has a long cooldown, and can be really powerful when used in the right moments. But oftentimes, Rags just lets it rip. It's the same thing with global heroes burning their flight/dig inefficiently, you know what I mean?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The thing about using the trait effectively, it takes no real mechanical skill to do it. You just pop in and start hammering your buttons on people. It's entirely a macro skill in knowing when and how to use it.

    Protip: the best usage of it is after the enemy team has advanced on your teams position with their backs to a destroyed fort. You go to that fort, pop trait, and Q -> R them to a fast death

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    Genji happiness is going all Deflect talents (including level 20) and standing in front of an enemy Deathwing who doesn't figure to turn off fire breath.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    I feel robbed...3ci9mhn08hqs.jpg

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Did you win anyway?

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    forty wrote: »
    Did you win anyway?

    Hahah..... forty here making jokes

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited June 21
    The game state just looked to me like one of those where your Muradin could sneak down past the other team while they're on your side and finish off the core in a second by diving it and Q+W-ing.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    You would think... riiight?????

    sigh...


    big le sigh...

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    huh, just realized that Leo's spooky hand life drain works on molten core

    that was fun!

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    yea MC counts a hero - so its pretty fun to stack off of for a bunch of heroes

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Can you put mc in stasis with maiev disk?

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Disc works on the Odin, so I would guess it works on Molten Core, which I think have more or less identical traits.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Saw this tier list on the reddit and had to share:

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited June 22
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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    That list is bullshit because there is no "Fun and Interactive Hero" tier.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    >Azmodan
    >Cooperative Teamplayer

    lmao get the fuck outta here

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Azmodan gives you what you need, even if it's not always what you want.

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  • WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Azmodan gives you what you need, even if it's not always what you want.

    Tank level health with ranged assassin level damage in the hands of people who run as far from a team fight as possible?

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    We don't need the janitor anymore, friends. The AI can make our new heroes for us!
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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Shoulder pads... check


    It's over gentlefolk

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Man, that ARAM map with no smoke stacks is bs. Poor dehaka feels so bad. :(

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  • InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    We don't need the janitor anymore, friends. The AI can make our new heroes for us!
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    the ai is confident hands are optional

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Speaking of AI.

    Good lordy loo, do I hate the removal of independent AI for AFK. Oh you died while they were leashed? Womp womp, hearth.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Man, that ARAM map with no smoke stacks is bs. Poor dehaka feels so bad. :(

    Don't pick him on that map, lol.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »
    Man, that ARAM map with no smoke stacks is bs. Poor dehaka feels so bad. :(

    Don't pick him on that map, lol.

    aye sometimes he's the only frontline you get
    :(

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    The onus really should have been on Blizzard to not design a Dehaka-incompatible map.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »
    Man, that ARAM map with no smoke stacks is bs. Poor dehaka feels so bad. :(

    Don't pick him on that map, lol.

    aye sometimes he's the only frontline you get
    :(

    If I have to choose between having no frontline in ARAM or having a character with literally only 50% functionality, I'm gonna choose no frontline 10 times out of 10, lol.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    The onus really should have been on Blizzard to not design a Dehaka-incompatible map.

    True, but that would also require them to like, give a shit about HotS.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Funny thing is I still wreck with tongue boy without smoke.

    ARAM is the true equalizer.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    The onus really should have been on Blizzard to not design a Dehaka-incompatible map.

    True, but that would also require them to like, give a shit about HotS.
    Technically they still kind of did when they made those maps.

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Notice all the dual-wielders on that list being in the top red tiers.

    Just something about assholes flocking to dual wield.

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited June 25
    Poll: what would you say is the very worst level 20 ult upgrade talent?

    caveat: I am disqualifying upgrades for troll ults like Tormented Souls and Locust Swarm


    My pick would be Genji's X-Strike upgrade. A conditional cooldown reduction and absolutely nothing else? There are ult upgrades that significantly reduce cooldown in addition to other effects. You would have to hit all 5 enemy heroes in order for the upgrade to allow you to cast twice a fight. But how often is your team going to line up that perfect ult and still have an undecided fight 10 seconds later?


    edit: Okay I've changed my mind to Murky's Endless March for now.

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    edited June 25
    Murky 20 March has it's uses but the 20 turns it into a troll pick vs literally any CC

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    Poll: what would you say is the very worst level 20 ult upgrade talent?

    caveat: I am disqualifying upgrades for troll ults like Tormented Souls and Locust Swarm


    My pick would be Genji's X-Strike upgrade. A conditional cooldown reduction and absolutely nothing else? There are ult upgrades that significantly reduce cooldown in addition to other effects. You would have to hit all 5 enemy heroes in order for the upgrade to allow you to cast twice a fight. But how often is your team going to line up that perfect ult and still have an undecided fight 10 seconds later?
    X-Strike can hit an individual hero up to 3 times, though (I think). Under ideal circumstances you could get a full reset off of just two heroes. More realistically it can definitely happen when hitting 3 heroes.

    And like any similar talent, it likely gains some value if you're facing heroes that put extra bodies in the field like Rexxar or Samuro.

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Murky 20 March has it's uses but the 20 turns it into a troll pick vs literally and CC

    That's another contender. How much more value can realistically be squeezed out of March beyond its usual length?

    I see so many Murkies who go all-in push and think they're going to seal the deal with Endless March. Even against a totally undefended fort, how much more push value and siege damage are you getting out of channeling Endless than you would with your regular abilities and attack?

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Xul 20 for skeletal mages is meh

    Nova triple tap 20 is pure winmore

    Diablo apoc 20 is fairly useless

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Xul 20 for skeletal mages is meh

    Nova triple tap 20 is pure winmore

    Diablo apoc 20 is fairly useless

    Agreed on triple tap.

    Skeletal mages I'm not sure. I think Poison is the better ult most of the time, and Mages would only be picked in instances where a chunk of the enemy team relies on move speed. But if you WERE in a situation where you think the slow of Mages is the better pick, then enhancing the slow by a large amount isn't too bad.

    Apoc 20 being weak I think is more about Apoc itself being weak. It's one of the only ults that practically requires a teammate combo to be effective. But it's practically the same upgrade as X-Strike, but better. So I'd still say X-Strike 20 is the worse upgrade.

  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Definitely not the worst, but I don't see a reason to pick 20 Combustion on Blaze.

    I'm aware bunker is technically better. But potatoes don't click it.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    20 combustion on blaze is quite good as the slow enables people to get hit by the thing.

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I can definitely see that, yeah. I guess I usually pop it in team fights so don't have an issue with em running away. But yeah.

    I'll toss my official vote to murky lvl 20 march

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