There's also a bit of a story going round that Schumacher is out at Haas. They supposedly suspended talks with Schumacher, and there are reports that he could be leaving the Ferrari driver academy as well. Motorsport mentioned it in passing as a potential landing spot for Ricciardo.
Well, the original rumours were that Mick was going to Aston Martin, and would leave the Ferrari Driver Academy to do so - which obviously hasn't happened. They've since changed that into "Binotto not having faith in Schumacher", but can't really find repulatble sources for that.
Schumacher/Haas breaking down generally is believable though. Mick had a rough start to the season, and Steiner did little to help the situation by trashing him publically. There was a lot of pushback towards Haas from the German media in particular on their handling of the situation. Personally, I think Steiner is a pretty awful team boss, so am inclined to agree. I could easily see Mick looking for a way out.
Mick is already the Ferrari Reserve, he just made a statement this week about how he'd be ready to go on short notice ahaha just in case haha jk but no really
I wouldn't count Ricciardo to Alpine as a sure thing. I'm not sure if they've entirely forgiven him for jumping ship so quickly last time.
Mick is in a bit of a tough spot generally. He has been improving, but there have been a few big crashes and, more importantly, he hasn't yet shown enough to make him worth the risk. The field is stacked with talent, who would you replace with Mick instead? There just isn't a route for him up the grid that I can see.
Since it's all mired in rumours, I could easily imagine a scenario where he lept at the chance to get out of Haas and into AM (especially with the Vettel connection) but had that scuppered by the Alonso move. Haas then know he has no alternative and can dictate terms in contract negotiations.
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I wouldn't count Ricciardo to Alpine as a sure thing. I'm not sure if they've entirely forgiven him for jumping ship so quickly last time.
Mick is in a bit of a tough spot generally. He has been improving, but there have been a few big crashes and, more importantly, he hasn't yet shown enough to make him worth the risk. The field is stacked with talent, who would you replace with Mick instead? There just isn't a route for him up the grid that I can see.
Since it's all mired in rumours, I could easily imagine a scenario where he lept at the chance to get out of Haas and into AM (especially with the Vettel connection) but had that scuppered by the Alonso move. Haas then know he has no alternative and can dictate terms in contract negotiations.
Agreed, I think Renault was pretty pissed when Ricciardo left. Not sure he will come back so easily.
I wouldn't count Ricciardo to Alpine as a sure thing. I'm not sure if they've entirely forgiven him for jumping ship so quickly last time.
Mick is in a bit of a tough spot generally. He has been improving, but there have been a few big crashes and, more importantly, he hasn't yet shown enough to make him worth the risk. The field is stacked with talent, who would you replace with Mick instead? There just isn't a route for him up the grid that I can see.
Since it's all mired in rumours, I could easily imagine a scenario where he lept at the chance to get out of Haas and into AM (especially with the Vettel connection) but had that scuppered by the Alonso move. Haas then know he has no alternative and can dictate terms in contract negotiations.
Agreed, I think Renault was pretty pissed when Ricciardo left. Not sure he will come back so easily.
I wouldn't count Ricciardo to Alpine as a sure thing. I'm not sure if they've entirely forgiven him for jumping ship so quickly last time.
Mick is in a bit of a tough spot generally. He has been improving, but there have been a few big crashes and, more importantly, he hasn't yet shown enough to make him worth the risk. The field is stacked with talent, who would you replace with Mick instead? There just isn't a route for him up the grid that I can see.
Since it's all mired in rumours, I could easily imagine a scenario where he lept at the chance to get out of Haas and into AM (especially with the Vettel connection) but had that scuppered by the Alonso move. Haas then know he has no alternative and can dictate terms in contract negotiations.
Agreed, I think Renault was pretty pissed when Ricciardo left. Not sure he will come back so easily.
I wouldn't count Ricciardo to Alpine as a sure thing. I'm not sure if they've entirely forgiven him for jumping ship so quickly last time.
Mick is in a bit of a tough spot generally. He has been improving, but there have been a few big crashes and, more importantly, he hasn't yet shown enough to make him worth the risk. The field is stacked with talent, who would you replace with Mick instead? There just isn't a route for him up the grid that I can see.
Since it's all mired in rumours, I could easily imagine a scenario where he lept at the chance to get out of Haas and into AM (especially with the Vettel connection) but had that scuppered by the Alonso move. Haas then know he has no alternative and can dictate terms in contract negotiations.
Agreed, I think Renault was pretty pissed when Ricciardo left. Not sure he will come back so easily.
2010 British GP. Vettel lost his new nose during qualifying, and RB decided to take the other new one Webber had and give it to Vettel. Vettel qualified 1, Webber 2, and Webber looked like this afterwards.
That still gets brought up to this day. Webber's shade-throwing was so legendary.
It was an instant classic for me the second I heard it. And nothing against Vettel, but it was satisfying seeing Webber take the win under those circumstances.
On Silverstone 2010, there was more to the story than met the eye, and Webber was far from innocent.
From Adrian Newey's book, they had a new front wing assembly but weren't certain if it was better or not - CFD said it was better, but the wind tunnel said it was worse. They'd made two but Vettel's got destroyed through no fault of his own. Webber ran the new wing in FP1 but didn't like it. Vettel ran it in FP2 and wasn't fussed either way. At this point they figured overall it was slightly better but Newey wanted more data, notably to find out why Webber didn't like it. He asked Webber's engineer if he intended to use the new wing again and was told that no, Webber did not intend to use it again that weekend. So he asked Vettel's engineer to fit it for qualifying since he still needed the data.
In the end, Webber was being more than a bit petty over Vettel being given 'his' wing, even though he had first refusal on it and rejected it. Webber was very good at spinning a story in the media (e.g. Multi-21) but the reality often didn't match.
The Ferrari is quick, but unreliable and if there is a chance to screw up strategy, the team will take it. They served me well early in the season, but I might see if I can try to swap things around to ditch them now that they seem to be flailing way more than succeeding.
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Binotto has no idea how to run an organization with any degree of accountability.
2010 Japanese GP was pretty ho-hum at the front (Vettel/RB running away with it), but luckily the tendency for directors to focus on the local hero pays off. They show Kamui Kobayashi for most of the race, and he gives a very entertaining mid-field performance, with a whole basket of overtakes to go up to P7.
It’s fun when one of the anonymous guys in the back gets a load of coverage in one race.
I have no idea why Alpine would want to force the issue here. Probably only trying to get McLaren to pay them off, because at this point they really don't want a driver actively not wanting to drive for them.
Crucially, however, this contract was between Piastri and Alpine's Driver Academy, rather than the F1 team.
This meant the contract was never registered with Formula 1's Contract Recognition Board, as it was not a F1 contract.
Accordingly, when McLaren lodged their contract with Piastri with the CRB after signing the Australian, neither Alpine nor McLaren received any notification from the CRB of any conflict.
If this isn't what happened I hope the actual reason is something equally as dumb
It does get a bit complicated when you factor in the FIA kangaroo court overseeing it all. They may ignore Piastri's Alpine contract (and whatever terms it contains) but a real court may disagree. After all, a contract is still a contract whether it has been registered with the FIA or not.
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Schumacher/Haas breaking down generally is believable though. Mick had a rough start to the season, and Steiner did little to help the situation by trashing him publically. There was a lot of pushback towards Haas from the German media in particular on their handling of the situation. Personally, I think Steiner is a pretty awful team boss, so am inclined to agree. I could easily see Mick looking for a way out.
Alpine is probably Ricciardo now.
Alfa is out due to Ferrari.
McLaren is Norris / Piastri
Williams? Pretty much the only team left.
That's a reserve driver role at best for now though, and Merc already have several (de Vries and Vandoorne - also apparently Paul di Resta?)
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Mick is in a bit of a tough spot generally. He has been improving, but there have been a few big crashes and, more importantly, he hasn't yet shown enough to make him worth the risk. The field is stacked with talent, who would you replace with Mick instead? There just isn't a route for him up the grid that I can see.
Since it's all mired in rumours, I could easily imagine a scenario where he lept at the chance to get out of Haas and into AM (especially with the Vettel connection) but had that scuppered by the Alonso move. Haas then know he has no alternative and can dictate terms in contract negotiations.
They also have Charles Leclerc coming once Hamilton retires.
Agreed, I think Renault was pretty pissed when Ricciardo left. Not sure he will come back so easily.
Then again Cyril is gone...
I wonder if he ever got that tattoo...
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Yep...
AlphaTauri is a stacked team.
Edit: I can’t believe Webber simply walked away after this.
Then won the race and this was the radio message
That was in response to Horner saying “you can smile now.” I love it all.
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It was an instant classic for me the second I heard it. And nothing against Vettel, but it was satisfying seeing Webber take the win under those circumstances.
The loose wheel and the crash are unrelated.
Edit: oh Michael
From Adrian Newey's book, they had a new front wing assembly but weren't certain if it was better or not - CFD said it was better, but the wind tunnel said it was worse. They'd made two but Vettel's got destroyed through no fault of his own. Webber ran the new wing in FP1 but didn't like it. Vettel ran it in FP2 and wasn't fussed either way. At this point they figured overall it was slightly better but Newey wanted more data, notably to find out why Webber didn't like it. He asked Webber's engineer if he intended to use the new wing again and was told that no, Webber did not intend to use it again that weekend. So he asked Vettel's engineer to fit it for qualifying since he still needed the data.
In the end, Webber was being more than a bit petty over Vettel being given 'his' wing, even though he had first refusal on it and rejected it. Webber was very good at spinning a story in the media (e.g. Multi-21) but the reality often didn't match.
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I love it. Shoot it into my veins.
*cries in Fantasy F1 team picks*
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It’s fun when one of the anonymous guys in the back gets a load of coverage in one race.
YES, YES, YES THIS IS THE SHIT I WANT LET'S GOOOO
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Yeah, here it is: https://jalopnik.com/alpine-f1-team-preparing-lawsuit-against-mclaren-bound-1849389975
As for why? You can't just let it be known that you'll allow people to break contracts with you and run off to your competitors with no consequences.
If this isn't what happened I hope the actual reason is something equally as dumb
https://racingnews365.com/revealed-why-piastri-wont-race-for-alpine-in-2023
So... next in line of succession is: Latifi?