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Maybe the real [Heroes of the Storm] were the friends we made along the way

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Oh wow...

    Last night tried testing out the Malth lvl 20 respawn talent for 3 games.

    ...only for all 3 to be stomps where my team was rolled and ended before level 20 :(

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    We need this Dehaka in HotS:
    https://youtu.be/wjE3SBiD8v8

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    I'd like to see a freak ARAM where 10 Stitches consume each other in rapid succession.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    If Tyrael uses judgment on zera and zera vorpals to the other side of the map mid flight, does tyr fly across the map like the angel of vengeance?

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    ARAM oops all Abathur.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    I'd like to see a freak ARAM where 10 Stitches consume each other in rapid succession.

    I'm pretty sure that whatever the first Stitches eats will immediately fall out when he is eaten. I feel like I've sen this before somewhere.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Yeah I don't think different stasis can encapsulate like those russian dolls.

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Y'all ever see an all Nova ARAM?

    It was like staring into the face of a dark God

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Set up a chain of Muradins to haymaker an enemy from their fort all the way back to yours.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Y'all ever see an all Nova ARAM?

    It was like staring into the face of a dark God

    All butcher was one of the best games I had in a ARAM and I hate what they have done to that mode

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Y'all ever see an all Nova ARAM?

    It was like staring into the face of a dark God

    I actually loved the all nova arams except the map mechanic where it was musical chairs and everyone outside the box would just die after a countdown.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I remember the old Nova one-hit kill Brawl on Towers of Doom. It was pretty awesome.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Which would be the best team comp of a single role?

    All bruisers
    All tanks
    All healers
    All supports
    All ranged dps
    All melee dps

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Which would be the best team comp of a single role?

    All bruisers
    All tanks
    All healers
    All supports
    All ranged dps
    All melee dps

    All bruisers

    Next question?

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Would all healers be the equivalent of a magic blue deck?

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    In aram it's all healers, any medium/large map it's bruisers

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    All Healers can be absolutely brutal in ARAM. I've had matches where our team had double Li Li in a full Healer lineup, and they're just unkillable damage machines. Once you get to level 20, the other team is absolutely fucked, because the two pandas are just dropping infinite dragons on them repeatedly.

    If we're talking about an actual match, though? It would have to be all Bruisers. They have self-sustain, initiation, wave-clear, defensives, etc. So they can kind of cover any/all of their bases, whereas a full Tank or Healer team would really struggle to waveclear (although Johanna or Mei could be their offlane, for sure), and full Assassin teams would likely just get blown the fuck up without any kind of frontline or support.

  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Tank lineup would be like

    Imperius for damage, and to initiate and set up pick off opportunities, and to provide additional team support with Heavenly Host. He's a literal fucking God if he's allowed to keep Battle Hunger active, and the only way it can really drop off for him is if the other team plays keep away until the buff expires -- but in a full Tank lineup with infinite control options, he'll have it up in 100% of engagements.

    Anub'arak brings additional initiation and lockdown. Anybody hit by his Burrow is guaranteed to eat an Imperius lance and get blown up by his % damage. So that's really valuable, but he also just passively blocks skill shots with his beetles, and is incredibly tanky vs spells. Plus, he can hard lockdown with Cocoon to set up guaranteed picks.

    Mei is the offlane and waveclear Tank. You want her to be rotating and generating XP. She can also follow up on her teammates' stuns with a Blizzard, and she has multiple forms of counter-initiation in case she needs to stall an engagement.

    Tyrael brings movement utility, follow-up damage, hard engage, and he constantly shields his team with Righteousness. This lineup is already obviously super tanky, and Tyrael providing continuous shielding is the icing on the cake.

    I'm a little torn on the final hero: it's between Stitches and Firebat. It would depend on what you're up against -- Stitches can force engagements from long distances, but Firebat is just constantly AoE stunning and slowing, and I think that's probably more valuable here, given that there's already so many options on the table in terms of initiation.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I am pretty sure Imperius still counts as a bruiser, not a tank

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Fuck you're right. I think of him as a Tank.

    Then it would have to be Muradin, actually. He follows up on the Anub engage and there will literally never be an attack he makes after level 7 that doesn't benefit from Give Em The Axe. This lineup has all the control in the world; just needs the damage he brings.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    All healers is brutal in aram because there is no coordination and no counter-drafting. I have won a match as all bruisers in coordinated, competitive play because it's EXTREMELY strong if you ban the counters.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    In aram it's all healers, any medium/large map it's bruisers

    I'd say in large maps a strong mix of global assassins would actually dominate consistently vs bruisers.

    Murky, zag, azmo / xul, falstad, and maybe sylv or tlv?

    You can use azmo or xul as the 'front line' while the rest of your team either burns an enemy down or two major buildings while fighting over an objective like seeds or curse token.

    Heck a good waveclear team can ignore objectives and just clear the garden terror / cursed lanes. Lanes would be so pushed that they'd already be weak.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    All support is by far the saddest and worst tho...

    Aba
    Mediv
    Zarya
    Probius.. wait he's an assassin right?


    That's... it?

    Wait shit, TLV count as support, right?

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    In aram it's all healers, any medium/large map it's bruisers

    I'd say in large maps a strong mix of global assassins would actually dominate consistently vs bruisers.

    Murky, zag, azmo / xul, falstad, and maybe sylv or tlv?

    You can use azmo or xul as the 'front line' while the rest of your team either burns an enemy down or two major buildings while fighting over an objective like seeds or curse token.

    Heck a good waveclear team can ignore objectives and just clear the garden terror / cursed lanes. Lanes would be so pushed that they'd already be weak.

    Did you somehow try to counter the all bruiser team by immediately ignoring your own premise and suggest a mixed comp team to beat them???

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    In aram it's all healers, any medium/large map it's bruisers

    I'd say in large maps a strong mix of global assassins would actually dominate consistently vs bruisers.

    Murky, zag, azmo / xul, falstad, and maybe sylv or tlv?

    You can use azmo or xul as the 'front line' while the rest of your team either burns an enemy down or two major buildings while fighting over an objective like seeds or curse token.

    Heck a good waveclear team can ignore objectives and just clear the garden terror / cursed lanes. Lanes would be so pushed that they'd already be weak.

    Did you somehow try to counter the all bruiser team by immediately ignoring your own premise and suggest a mixed comp team to beat them???

    Wait, the only one that doesn't fit in that all ranged comp is murky and zul / tlv.

    So instead this might be the team that dominates an all bruiser comp on a large map like garden / cursed.

    Behold, the playing-a-different-game monster team:
    Sylv
    Azmo
    Zag
    Falstad
    Hammer

    With naz as backup player!

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    you absolutely do not play hammer in that comp lmfao

    naz definitely better without support or frontline

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Dunno, Nic has been destroying with solo lane hammer.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Fan reaches GM #1 by playing dono requests of Probius and Murky. It's not the same thing when literally the best players in the world do it.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Eh, I wouldn't put these guys on an untouchable pedastool.

    If they can pull stuff off vs other GMs, especially ones that know their gimmick, then us vs other potatoes at our level have a good shot at it. It's relative.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Eh, I wouldn't put these guys on an untouchable pedastool.

    I've played with them and against people of that caliber.

    I would.

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  • WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Tank lineup.

    I think I'd rather have Stitch than Anub, but that might just be preference. A sleeper pick might actually be Arthas, since he can lock down structures and roots are going to help the rest of the CC hit. Plus he's flex candidate to counter enemy melee. Otherwise he's got the D build or Death Coil to do ranged point and click damage.

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Eh, I wouldn't put these guys on an untouchable pedastool.

    If they can pull stuff off vs other GMs, especially ones that know their gimmick, then us vs other potatoes at our level have a good shot at it. It's relative.

    Skill is relative, and the gap in skill is greater the higher (and lower) you go. Meaning the difference between Michael Jordan and an NBA bench-warmer is greater than the difference between a Plat and a Diamond player in HotS, because those basketball players are at the extreme end of the curve.

    The same is true for HotS - Fan and Nic are pro players who at one point played this game full-time for a living against other players who did the same. The skill gap between them and a random GM in HotS is larger than the gap between a Diamond player and that same GM. It sounds weird but it's true for any measurable skill.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Much like the giant gap between me, and all the other people in my league who continuously hold me back from being 3 tiers higher than I should be, on account of every loss being their fault.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    How do (did?) you get the celestial mounts?

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    MrBody wrote: »
    How do (did?) you get the celestial mounts?

    Some were from attending Bluzzcon, some from spending $ in the store before 2.0 iirc

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    They really need to make ARAM an actual ARAM again and not let people pick heroes.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    What do you mean "again"? You've always been able to pick.

  • WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    There was a time when it was in that weird rotation of "fun" things where you didn't pick.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    There were some Brawls where you weren't allowed to pick and everyone was the same hero (like those arena ones where an objective would pop up in the center), but the ARAM Brawls were always the pick 3 -- except the 10% of the time or so where it would lock everyone to the same heroes.

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Chinese HotS Moments still the best HotS Moments:
    https://youtu.be/1Q4kOSQwp5o

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