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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Walk into the staff restroom and see this.

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    Ah yes. Symmetrical TP stacking. Just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Walk into the staff restroom and see this.

    bkgk70vxuak1.jpeg

    Ah yes. Symmetrical TP stacking. Just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947.

    That person is thriving in ambiguity

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    The cleaning person is constantly trying to save stub rolls of tp and hand towels

    It's a big sanitary issue to have everyone's filthy hands pawing all over those instead of using the dispensers, I understand the concern with waste, but just take them to paper recycling bin maybe instead

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Tox wrote: »
    Walk into the staff restroom and see this.

    bkgk70vxuak1.jpeg

    Ah yes. Symmetrical TP stacking. Just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947.

    That person is thriving in ambiguity

    AmbiguiTP

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Kadith wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    Eh, this position is likely shit, but ambiguity is part of life. Often when functions or organizations are developing, there's a level of ambiguity as to what responsibilities are everyone's vs. specific people. Over time, we've learned that self organizing groups are generally more effective than top down designs, so good organizations always have a level of variability in duties. If everything is defined as the outset your organization will only be as good as the first leader and their knowledge of the domain. Workers are better at defining how domains should operate (see: lean/Toyota production system) as they understand more of the mechanics and impacts.
    So what happens when people have agency? Things change and sometimes shit falls through cracks and has to be dealt with, so some level of ambiguity coupled with basic "be responsible" is what you rely to catch things. There's also many questions around "how big does this function need to be?" That has changing answers as a company scales.
    All of that said, it's equally likely that it's "we have no clue what we're doing, so be prepared to do a wide variety of things as we get our shit together." As someone that's built up a new function in a large organization, there's a lot of ambiguity early as you figure out the best way to fit into a larger whole.

    If you are expecting folks to just "be responsible" and take the heat that comes with the accountability for when they fail at that then they best all be getting manager salaries.

    Exactly. People think putting this in the description means they don't have to be accountable for good work definition when it should mean they're hiring someone to throw equity/attention at to help define their world moving forward.

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    I'd kill at job interviews if they asked me weird meta questions like that

    also wouldn't the correct answer to that question just be a shrug

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    It's time for my annual "Try to get the networked printers at work to talk to my laptop" attempt.
    I had vaguely hoped that in the intervening 12 months, some progress might have been made. But no, the printer manufacturers are still dead set on refusing to release working network drivers, and the IT department is still dead set on not fixing any of the persistent ongoing networking issues we have at this end of the building.

    I can see the printer. I can touch the printer. I can even, god help me, ping the printer. But I cannot use the printer.

    Also I went to boot up the behemoth of a Windows machine I have stashed under my desk for software emergencies, in the hope that it would play nicely (or at all) with the manufacturers drivers, but it scooted me over to a BitLocker screen claiming that "the configuration has changed". Since I got this computer as a hand me down from god knows where, good luck knowing what that key is!

  • KadithKadith Registered User regular
    pro-tip: ignore a vendor's sales emails long enough and they may send you a package of bespoke artisanal cookies

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I finished my annual self evaluation with this current situation cannot continue.

  • LuvTheMonkeyLuvTheMonkey High Sierra Serenade Registered User regular
    Kadith wrote: »
    pro-tip: ignore a vendor's sales emails long enough and they may send you a package of bespoke artisanal cookies

    Shit, ignoring them works for merch? Usually I have to respond to get free stuff. Last time it was a pair of Airpod Pros.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I haven't solved my printer issues, but i have just realised that I can use the laser etcher as a printer if the font is big enough.

    Currently sourcing large discard sheets of plywood.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    I haven't solved my printer issues, but i have just realised that I can use the laser etcher as a printer if the font is big enough.

    Currently sourcing large discard sheets of plywood.

    Those will at least be cheaper than printer ink.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Was troubleshooting and installing a new projector system in a conference room this morning, for a building that we aren't even really responsible for and we're just doing this as a favor, when suddenly this very angry woman bursts in and starts lighting into us about "I wish people would tell me when things like this are happening, it's bullshit that I have a meeting in here soon and now some random people I've never seen before are using this room"

    Yes, she actually addressed us as "some random people" and I'm honestly impressed that the guy I was doing the install with handled it as professionally as he did. But good God I can't fucking stand admin assistants who think they can talk down to people just because their boss has a fancy office; she calmed down in a hurry once she realized who we were and what we were doing.

    We still left without finishing the install though. 100% could have finished before her meeting started, but if you start off by being a huge dick about it then, well, other priorities and all that.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    ph blake wrote: »
    Was troubleshooting and installing a new projector system in a conference room this morning, for a building that we aren't even really responsible for and we're just doing this as a favor, when suddenly this very angry woman bursts in and starts lighting into us about "I wish people would tell me when things like this are happening, it's bullshit that I have a meeting in here soon and now some random people I've never seen before are using this room"

    Yes, she actually addressed us as "some random people" and I'm honestly impressed that the guy I was doing the install with handled it as professionally as he did. But good God I can't fucking stand admin assistants who think they can talk down to people just because their boss has a fancy office; she calmed down in a hurry once she realized who we were and what we were doing.

    We still left without finishing the install though. 100% could have finished before her meeting started, but if you start off by being a huge dick about it then, well, other priorities and all that.

    as an admin who used to be in charge of a bunch of video conference rooms; the amount of times i had to chase squatters out who didn't bother to book the room probably numbers in the 100's so I don't blame her for getting mad but i do blame her for flipping off the handle like that. that don't solve nothing

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  • H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    I do not understand why some customers feel the need to call in to the support phone line minutes after creating a case on our website.

    Your case, which you set at the lowest priority, was assigned to somebody literally 4 mins ago. Give them a chance to reach out before you start blowing up phones.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    edited September 28
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    ph blake wrote: »
    Was troubleshooting and installing a new projector system in a conference room this morning, for a building that we aren't even really responsible for and we're just doing this as a favor, when suddenly this very angry woman bursts in and starts lighting into us about "I wish people would tell me when things like this are happening, it's bullshit that I have a meeting in here soon and now some random people I've never seen before are using this room"

    Yes, she actually addressed us as "some random people" and I'm honestly impressed that the guy I was doing the install with handled it as professionally as he did. But good God I can't fucking stand admin assistants who think they can talk down to people just because their boss has a fancy office; she calmed down in a hurry once she realized who we were and what we were doing.

    We still left without finishing the install though. 100% could have finished before her meeting started, but if you start off by being a huge dick about it then, well, other priorities and all that.

    as an admin who used to be in charge of a bunch of video conference rooms; the amount of times i had to chase squatters out who didn't bother to book the room probably numbers in the 100's so I don't blame her for getting mad but i do blame her for flipping off the handle like that. that don't solve nothing

    Yeah like, it was mostly just that she didn't seem to expect us to even respond. She just burst in, started ranting, and then seemed surprised when we actually replied back instead of immediately leaving or whatever.

    Even just something as brusque as "what are y'all doing here? I have this room booked" would have been fine, things get miscommunicated and double booked all the time, it happens.

    Whatever, it's fine now and she apologized via email (turns out she was the one who emailed our boss requesting the favor in the first place, which is just... lmao)

    ph blake on
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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    It costs nothing, for anybody, to be nice to people. I will never understand that kind of shit.

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  • FFFF Once Upon a Time In OaklandRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It costs nothing, for anybody, to be nice to people. I will never understand that kind of shit.

    In my experience, you have to consider IT/Service workers as people to understand "be nice". Way too many folks don't, or plain refuse to.

    Huh...
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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It costs nothing, for anybody, to be nice to people. I will never understand that kind of shit.

    sometimes there's a lot of pressure and people blow. it's understandable but never preferable

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Did u know that by default, Inkscape will change the python system path to its own little python interpreter? Like some kind of asshole?

    Me: I need to pip install this thing...
    Inkscape: Hello? I don't know what that is.
    Me: I didn't know I was asking you.
    Inkscape: Well, you did, so... I don't know what that is.
    Me: What? Why did you show up when I dialed python?
    Inkscape: I re-routed all python communication to me.
    Me: And you don't know what pip is?
    Inkscape: Please stop asking me that.
    Me: Why would you take over these python calls if you don't know about basic functionality?
    Inkscape: Look, buddy, do you want to do some vector art or what?

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    It's extremely aggravating to tell the same buyer and the same customer week after week that it the delivery address is "wrong," the shipment went to the "wrong" address

    And correcting the address is still the buyers responsibility.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 28
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Did u know that by default, Inkscape will change the python system path to its own little python interpreter? Like some kind of asshole?

    Me: I need to pip install this thing...
    Inkscape: Hello? I don't know what that is.
    Me: I didn't know I was asking you.
    Inkscape: Well, you did, so... I don't know what that is.
    Me: What? Why did you show up when I dialed python?
    Inkscape: I re-routed all python communication to me.
    Me: And you don't know what pip is?
    Inkscape: Please stop asking me that.
    Me: Why would you take over these python calls if you don't know about basic functionality?
    Inkscape: Look, buddy, do you want to do some vector art or what?

    Inkscape is programmed by a team of tiny devils who report directly to Satan, it's the only thing that makes their software choices even slightly explicable.

    edit: but to avoid this shit I would recommend using python environments instead of raw dogging the command line. Miniconda is a decent way to handle this kind of nonsense.

    tynic on
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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Did u know that by default, Inkscape will change the python system path to its own little python interpreter? Like some kind of asshole?

    Me: I need to pip install this thing...
    Inkscape: Hello? I don't know what that is.
    Me: I didn't know I was asking you.
    Inkscape: Well, you did, so... I don't know what that is.
    Me: What? Why did you show up when I dialed python?
    Inkscape: I re-routed all python communication to me.
    Me: And you don't know what pip is?
    Inkscape: Please stop asking me that.
    Me: Why would you take over these python calls if you don't know about basic functionality?
    Inkscape: Look, buddy, do you want to do some vector art or what?

    Inkscape is programmed by a team of tiny devils who report directly to Satan, it's the only thing that makes their software choices even slightly explicable.

    edit: but to avoid this shit I would recommend using python environments instead of raw dogging the command line. Miniconda is a decent way to handle this kind of nonsense.

    yep, a lot of people I know use venv for this very reason.

  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Ooo, fun website I got linked to.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    H0b0man wrote: »
    I do not understand why some customers feel the need to call in to the support phone line minutes after creating a case on our website.

    Your case, which you set at the lowest priority, was assigned to somebody literally 4 mins ago. Give them a chance to reach out before you start blowing up phones.
    It's usually a case of bad previous experiences informing current bad behavior.

  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It costs nothing, for anybody, to be nice to people. I will never understand that kind of shit.

    Hot take but I disagree. It actually costs mental energy and effort sometimes.

    Is it worth it? Usually! But that doesn't mean it costs nothing.

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  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Al_wat wrote: »
    I passed a practical test today on going into contaminated areas and taking radiation surveys.

    It was a bit nerve racking, as if you fail the test you lose your radiation qualifications and have to re-take a 6 week course! The way the test runs, there are like 20 so called "critical" steps which if you fuck up one of them, you fail. You need to nail all of those steps. AND they aren't allowed to tell you on the spot that you just failed. You have to finish the whole thing. So theoretically you could fail step one and then do this whole long list of meticulous stuff and then be told, oops you failed at step 1. The whole thing takes 1-1.5 hrs too, there's quite a lot of little things to remember, easy things to forget or fuck up.

    Also if I lost my rad qualification I would need to be escorted to my work location by a qualified co-worker, so it would be a pain in the ass for more than just me lol

    Pretty big relief that its done! I've been stressing for like a whole week about it.

    You passed your rad test, you are officially rad

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  • minor incidentminor incident discount etsy agitprop Registered User regular
    edited September 28
    Tox wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It costs nothing, for anybody, to be nice to people. I will never understand that kind of shit.

    Hot take but I disagree. It actually costs mental energy and effort sometimes.

    Is it worth it? Usually! But that doesn't mean it costs nothing.

    If you want to pick nits, then sure, even opening your mouth to begin with costs energy. The point is that it requires no more energy to not be an asshole to people who are trying to help you. In the service industry the bar for “being nice” is exceedingly low and basically just means “this person wasn’t a rude asshole to me.” It doesn’t require small talk or fake cheerfulness. It’s just a matter of acting like you’re talking to a person, and if that somehow isn’t your default when you are, in fact, talking to a person, then you’re just wrong.

    Edit: to be clear, this was more of a general thing, not specifically referring to the story about the admin above. Losing your temper after being frustrated happens! It’s not just blanket automatically excusable, but it’s absolutely forgivable with an apology.

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  • expendableexpendable Silly Goose Registered User regular
    Al_wat wrote: »
    I passed a practical test today on going into contaminated areas and taking radiation surveys.

    It was a bit nerve racking, as if you fail the test you lose your radiation qualifications and have to re-take a 6 week course! The way the test runs, there are like 20 so called "critical" steps which if you fuck up one of them, you fail. You need to nail all of those steps. AND they aren't allowed to tell you on the spot that you just failed. You have to finish the whole thing. So theoretically you could fail step one and then do this whole long list of meticulous stuff and then be told, oops you failed at step 1. The whole thing takes 1-1.5 hrs too, there's quite a lot of little things to remember, easy things to forget or fuck up.

    Also if I lost my rad qualification I would need to be escorted to my work location by a qualified co-worker, so it would be a pain in the ass for more than just me lol

    Pretty big relief that its done! I've been stressing for like a whole week about it.

    You passed your rad test, you are officially rad

    Isn't the point of the test to make sure they aren't and never become rad?

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    So the servers suddenly decide to cramp up during the last six percent.
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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It costs nothing, for anybody, to be nice to people. I will never understand that kind of shit.

    Yeah it kinda does cost effort though. And if you're already about to blow because X,Y, and Z are putting pressure on you, you might fuck up and explode on some innocent person. At least the admin in question realized how awful they were and apologized, and that means they're thoughtful enough that they'll probably try not to let it happen again. None of that is on ph blake and the other IT people there that day though, said admin deserved to have them leave after that.

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  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    edited September 28
    Al_wat wrote: »
    I passed a practical test today on going into contaminated areas and taking radiation surveys.

    It was a bit nerve racking, as if you fail the test you lose your radiation qualifications and have to re-take a 6 week course! The way the test runs, there are like 20 so called "critical" steps which if you fuck up one of them, you fail. You need to nail all of those steps. AND they aren't allowed to tell you on the spot that you just failed. You have to finish the whole thing. So theoretically you could fail step one and then do this whole long list of meticulous stuff and then be told, oops you failed at step 1. The whole thing takes 1-1.5 hrs too, there's quite a lot of little things to remember, easy things to forget or fuck up.

    Also if I lost my rad qualification I would need to be escorted to my work location by a qualified co-worker, so it would be a pain in the ass for more than just me lol

    Pretty big relief that its done! I've been stressing for like a whole week about it.

    You passed your rad test, you are officially rad

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Did u know that by default, Inkscape will change the python system path to its own little python interpreter? Like some kind of asshole?

    Me: I need to pip install this thing...
    Inkscape: Hello? I don't know what that is.
    Me: I didn't know I was asking you.
    Inkscape: Well, you did, so... I don't know what that is.
    Me: What? Why did you show up when I dialed python?
    Inkscape: I re-routed all python communication to me.
    Me: And you don't know what pip is?
    Inkscape: Please stop asking me that.
    Me: Why would you take over these python calls if you don't know about basic functionality?
    Inkscape: Look, buddy, do you want to do some vector art or what?

    Inkscape is programmed by a team of tiny devils who report directly to Satan, it's the only thing that makes their software choices even slightly explicable.

    edit: but to avoid this shit I would recommend using python environments instead of raw dogging the command line. Miniconda is a decent way to handle this kind of nonsense.

    ... this is definitely how I'm going to start referring to it in my head at work but will be forever unable to say out loud because of HR, thanks a lot

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    edited September 28
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It costs nothing, for anybody, to be nice to people. I will never understand that kind of shit.

    Yeah it kinda does cost effort though. And if you're already about to blow because X,Y, and Z are putting pressure on you, you might fuck up and explode on some innocent person. At least the admin in question realized how awful they were and apologized, and that means they're thoughtful enough that they'll probably try not to let it happen again. None of that is on ph blake and the other IT people there that day though, said admin deserved to have them leave after that.

    You might, but that doesn't make it right. If that's a thing a person consistently does, I'd say that person has some introspection to do and some work needs doing.

    I would actually argue it takes more spoons to yell at someone than to be level-headed. But, I am also incredibly difficult to anger, due to reasons that would take a lot longer to explain than I really want to get into at the moment.

    Pinfeldorf on
  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Honestly, yelling is such a relief sometimes. But I try to do it when it won't hurt anybody! Like yelling in my car, or yelling to the sky when in my office. When I lose my temper with others, I almost always come back to myself immediately and apologize, unless they've been a right bastard to me prior to me yelling.

  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    I can't remember the last time I really yelled.

    I'm more of a deep sigher.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    People need outlets. Paradoxically, adults have fewer options than kids, due to social expectations and lack of free time. So they resort to maladaptive means of stress relief in the environment most associated with stress, like the workplace. You can't really avoid hurting others if that's the only place you're able to unload.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Yeah, it's important to find a coping mechanism or outlet for your anger. I grew up with two parents who were incapable of that, so I had to deal with getting yelled at, virtually every day, for extremely minor things that didn't warrant that level of anger, because they had a bad day or whatever, and had they gone off like that at work it would obviously cost them their job, or worse.

    However, pouring out your anger on someone undeserving of it is the worst possible outlet imaginable. I made sure I would never be that person, and so far I think I've done a pretty good job of it, and it doesn't feel like it's cost me anything. It feels like the opposite of that.

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited September 28
    I can sometimes be subject to the sneaky hate spiral

    Edit: Though I should note I get them a lot less frequently since I stopped having to commute to work.

    Cambiata on
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  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    edited September 28
    I don't remember the last time I've yelled at a customer e: no wait yeah I do. I was in a very bad way

    But I can only say, "the optional 'device nickname' box is where you have the option of entering a nickname for the device" so many times before I sound just snarky. Or letting out a defeated sigh.

    It's hard to hold that stuff in. Harder after 40 calls a day. It costs energy to maintain that composure

    Tox on
    Cambiata
  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    People need outlets. Paradoxically, adults have fewer options than kids, due to social expectations and lack of free time. So they resort to maladaptive means of stress relief in the environment most associated with stress, like the workplace. You can't really avoid hurting others if that's the only place you're able to unload.

    A friend of mine used to work out to burn off anger. I remember like 18 months had passed between times we hung out, and he was absolutely fucking yoked. I was like, "What happened? Did you get a super shitty new job?"

    "No, man. I got promoted. Fuck promotions."

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