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White Fragility in action: the Elon Musk story

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    Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    A head of lettuce
    Couscous wrote: »

    Free speech is when advertisers have to advertise on your website

    I mean, that is the orthodox Right Wing position these days so I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.

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    I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »

    Free speech is when advertisers have to advertise on your website

    MEANWHILE:


    Official
    Twitter is now having trouble paying some employees on time

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Oh god yes Elon pick this specific fight, it will go so well

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited November 2022

    Combining retweeting a really tired attempted corporate meme, retweeting some wallstreetbets account, and likening an advertiser on your website to Big Brother

    Couscous on
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Missing payroll can have sharp legal consequences in the US, cant imagine it goes better in the EU.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    It's pretty funny to put a tiny vajra next to two pistols.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Gangsters: Here's a pic of my piece and coke

    Elon: Here's a pic of my piece and Coke...why are you all laughing?!

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Does twitter even have anyone to run payroll? Last I read their entire HR department had quit

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    A head of lettuce
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Does twitter even have anyone to run payroll? Last I read their entire HR department had quit

    Wait, are you saying paychecks don’t just automatically go out based on the inherent merit of each employee every week?

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular


    Go on asshole. Do it. Announce you’re going to “make” a new phone

    Do it

    Dig your hole deeper.

    Burn more of your fetid wealth

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Tomanta wrote: »
    I want Tim Cook to take out Twitter ads saying Musk is a whiny brat who drinks his own pee, then when he gets banned and the ads don't run ask Musk why he doesn't like free speech.

    And then delist Twitter from the apple store.

    Actually, just that last thing would be good enough.


    Potentially good news

    Even if he is lying, lying about it is a great way to give Apple good reason to tell to go to hell

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    why? because they have rules about apps that are giant pulsating pods of hate-speech with no measures in place to curtail it.

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    I think that yall should see Glass Onion if its still in theaters or when it comes to Netflix next month

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Oh god, is this all necause Apple's cut makes is foolish blue check scheme unprofitable?




    What is this flailing about

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    "Secret"

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Britain's current PM, whoever that is
    I think app stores are monopolistic and you shouldn't be able to take a cut considering it's usually the only option on the platform, but also lol get fucked elon.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Meanwhile cohost updated its UI it seems

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    eggbug grows stronger

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    It's the fact that they don't allow anyone to provide their own payment processing that makes it an issue for me

    Like whatever, revenue cut for utilizing their storefront and infrastructure, sure

    But also you can't do anything else

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    LabelLabel Registered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Do it, Elon. Pick that fight.

    You've got this.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Anyway if Fortnite picked this fight and lost, Elon and his weird group of fanboys are hilariously outgunned

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    I think that yall should see Glass Onion if its still in theaters or when it comes to Netflix next month

    I don't think they could've had a better timing for it.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Anyway if Fortnite picked this fight and lost, Elon and his weird group of fanboys are hilariously outgunned

    Did Epic lose that? I can't remember now

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Couscous wrote: »
    Oh god, is this all necause Apple's cut makes is foolish blue check scheme unprofitable?




    What is this flailing about

    Look at this fucking pissbaby going "I just discovered this super secret thing no one else knows about and it's FUCKED UP we need to FIX THIS"

    Dude makes slit-slinging orangutan hobgoblins look smart.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    A head of lettuce
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Anyway if Fortnite picked this fight and lost, Elon and his weird group of fanboys are hilariously outgunned

    Did Epic lose that? I can't remember now

    IIRC apple got dinged for like one or two small things in epic's list of grievances but by and large epic got blown out

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Anyway if Fortnite picked this fight and lost, Elon and his weird group of fanboys are hilariously outgunned

    Did Epic lose that? I can't remember now

    I think it wasn't a 100% loss but it effectively was a loss for Epic on most everything meaningful.

    I ate an engineer
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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Basically Epic did not have much of a legal argument

    Like of course that sort of thing should be extremely regulated to allow for alternative storefronts, but that doesn't mean there was much of any legal argument argument

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Lawsuit-as-marketing gimmick felt super obnoxious

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Elon Musk's financial solvency
    Apple has a battalion of lawyers, veterans all, with demonstrated experience in exactly this same fight, Elon has... whatever dregs are left in Twitter legal post purge.

    This isn't a war, it's a condemnation to the arena.

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    destroyah87destroyah87 They/Them Preferred: She/Her - Please UseRegistered User regular
    A head of lettuce
    If I was Elon Musk rich I'd have a division of one of my companies build me a tricorder prop. But it would be fully functional with all the scanning stuff really working.

    Obviously he would not do this because having a portable scanning device like that would better all of humanity and he's too shallow to do that.

    Do you think Elon finds Star Trek too “socialist” so he never liked it, or do you think he used to like it but now he just complains that it’s “too woke”?

    The latter, assuredly. He probably ignored or missed the "socialist" underpinnings of the franchise. Ten to one odds he's liked the movies tho.

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    MillMill Registered User regular
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    Doodmann wrote: »
    I think app stores are monopolistic and you shouldn't be able to take a cut considering it's usually the only option on the platform, but also lol get fucked elon.

    To be fair, the app stores do have to pay for employee pay and other operating expenses and it's not unreasonable for them to expect to make some profit. That said, I fully agree with the idea that they are charging way too fucking much, given that it's cheaper to run an app store than to run an app with full support and regular updates.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    So does Apple consider the owner of the company claiming he will go to war instead of pay the 30% fee enough of a statement of intent to violate the agreement and just remove the app like happened with Epic?

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Britain's current PM, whoever that is
    Mill wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I think app stores are monopolistic and you shouldn't be able to take a cut considering it's usually the only option on the platform, but also lol get fucked elon.

    To be fair, the app stores do have to pay for employee pay and other operating expenses and it's not unreasonable for them to expect to make some profit. That said, I fully agree with the idea that they are charging way too fucking much, given that it's cheaper to run an app store than to run an app with full support and regular updates.

    it's either built into the apple walled garden you buy into with one of their phones or it's a separate for profit company, it being both is too vertical.

    Whippy wrote: »
    nope nope nope nope abort abort talk about anime
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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    the funny thing about him going "hey it's fucked up that apple is doing this to me!" is that the lax government regulations that let apple do this are the only reason that his companies are worth anything at all

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Label wrote: »
    Do it, Elon. Pick that fight.

    You've got this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBI4TSbihrE

    YOU CAN TAKE HIM ZIG, NOW'S THE TIME

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »

    did you know that the government takes a Secret portion of your paycheck each month??? It's true!!

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »

    did you know that the government takes a Secret portion of your paycheck each month??? It's true!!

    yeah, it gets funneled to tesla and spacex so elon can continue to sabotage public infrastructure solutions

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    mcpmcp Registered User regular
    I kind of don't like the idea of third party app stores. They'd pop up all over and sucker people into installing malware.

    Apple does a pretty good job of keeping their app store clean.

    Google ... could do better.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    A head of lettuce
    Yeah, the apple cut does seem steep but also the less payment card systems I need to trust the better.

    Inquisitor on
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    akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    Is this because he doesn't want to lose the 30% on his $8 subs?
    At least Epic funnels an actual volume of transactions through there to get upset over.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    A head of lettuce
    I've only ever been an android user so I can't speak to the quality of the walled garden or whatever but the google play store fuckin' sucks dude

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