Can't really tell if I'm safe or not but in reality if snow fell here I would 100% call in to work because California drivers suck at driving in snow. More than usual I mean.
Calling in would be the right move
Nobody in CA has the skills or tires for snow, it'll be Mad Max eXtreme
ya'll know California is famous for it's mountains right? And peoples access to them. This isn't a georgia situation.
But also yes, people are going to be doing dumb shit out there. Just like the first snow in any state/region.
Hanging out in michigan for a bit was eye opening, they're "good at driving in the snow" but also everyone "gets a few dents every year"
And yet I'll still get caught behind some dumb fuck going 40 MPH up the Grapevine in the left hand lane because they don't understand the concept of inclines.
Every. Single. Time.
...we also have a lot of tourists.
I blame the tourists.
Nah, it's native Californians generally. Most tourists and transplants are from New England or the northern Midwest from what I've seen. Every time I went skiing in Tahoe it was a complete clown show from people that had no business driving in winter.
theory: nothing would happen to the storm system
there would be plenty of nice radioactive dust to scatter on the winds though
Something the size of tzar bomba could maybe do something at least visually interesting to a hurricane with a small eye. I agree in principle with your theory though.
Pretty disappointed to find that nowhere on the Internet could I find anyone willing to sit down and do the actual math on the number of nukes needed to disrupt a cat 5 hurricane. Somebody, somewhere, has all the necessary ingredients in their head to do the math and they haven't. Fucking rude of them.
Pretty disappointed to find that nowhere on the Internet could I find anyone willing to sit down and do the actual math on the number of nukes needed to disrupt a cat 5 hurricane. Somebody, somewhere, has all the necessary ingredients in their head to do the math and they haven't. Fucking rude of them.
Maybe it's not the number of nukes. Maybe we just need a bigger conventional bomb.
Pretty disappointed to find that nowhere on the Internet could I find anyone willing to sit down and do the actual math on the number of nukes needed to disrupt a cat 5 hurricane. Somebody, somewhere, has all the necessary ingredients in their head to do the math and they haven't. Fucking rude of them.
I'm surprised it isn't already in a What If? book. Here's NOAA's answer:
https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html
During each hurricane season, there always appear suggestions that one should simply use nuclear weapons to try and destroy the storms. Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems. Needless to say, this is not a good idea.
Now for a more rigorous scientific explanation of why this would not be an effective hurricane modification technique. The main difficulty with using explosives to modify hurricanes is the amount of energy required. A fully developed hurricane can release heat energy at a rate of 5 to 20x1013 watts and converts less than 10% of the heat into the mechanical energy of the wind. The heat release is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes. According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate of 1013 watts in 1990, a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane.
If we think about mechanical energy, the energy at humanity's disposal is closer to the storm's, but the task of focusing even half of the energy on a spot in the middle of a remote ocean would still be formidable. Brute force interference with hurricanes doesn't seem promising.
In addition, an explosive, even a nuclear explosive, produces a shock wave, or pulse of high pressure, that propagates away from the site of the explosion somewhat faster than the speed of sound. Such an event doesn't raise the barometric pressure after the shock has passed because barometric pressure in the atmosphere reflects the weight of the air above the ground. For normal atmospheric pressure, there are about ten metric tons (1000 kilograms per ton) of air bearing down on each square meter of surface. In the strongest hurricanes there are nine. To change a Category 5 hurricane into a Category 2 hurricane you would have to add about a half ton of air for each square meter inside the eye, or a total of a bit more than half a billion (500,000,000) tons for a 20 km radius eye. It's difficult to envision a practical way of moving that much air around.
Attacking weak tropical waves or depressions before they have a chance to grow into hurricanes isn't promising either. About 80 of these disturbances form every year in the Atlantic basin, but only about 5 become hurricanes in a typical year. There is no way to tell in advance which ones will develop. If the energy released in a tropical disturbance were only 10% of that released in a hurricane, it's still a lot of power, so that the hurricane police would need to dim the whole world's lights many times a year.
Though I'll concede saying you can't do it isn't as fun as hearing how much boom it would take.
While reading I also came across this disturbing reminder of how dumb ideas can be, from the 1946 era of "we could just nuke the icecaps to mine under them!"
A Columbia University professor explained that the ice caps were an “unnatural condition” similar to a “‘common cold’ afflicting the earth in [its] ‘head’ and ‘feet.’”
Pretty disappointed to find that nowhere on the Internet could I find anyone willing to sit down and do the actual math on the number of nukes needed to disrupt a cat 5 hurricane. Somebody, somewhere, has all the necessary ingredients in their head to do the math and they haven't. Fucking rude of them.
Maybe it's not the number of nukes. Maybe we just need a bigger conventional bomb.
A MOAMOAMOAB, perhaps.
you need a large impactor, drop one of them big asteroids on it, that will put your pile of nukes to shame
Wind is definitely picking up here in my corner of LA, starting to get those "blink and you'll miss it" flickers of power.
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First dusting of snow here in the Willamette Valley. How much will I wake up to? Who knows. Also, who has a Doctors appointment at 745 tomorrow morning? This guy!
High wind gusts from last night, islands off the coast of SoCal cresting 80mph, tons of locations over 50mph and quite a few over 70mph in the mountains.
Also a blizzard warning has been issued for Los Angeles County and Ventura County mountains, This is the first blizzard warning EVER issued by NWS Los Angeles:
Snow's starting to stick in Portland. Doesn't seem like we're getting a lot, but it's gonna hang around for a bit. Hopefully we'll get get more rain than snow in the snow showers that's coming, and it will melt away.
Also updated snowfall projection and wind projection. No accumulation projected for metro LA, as expected, but given the low ceiling on snow with this storm I wouldn't be surprised to see some flurries if you're closer to the foothills/places with a bit of elevation (like RPV). Maybe some light, quickly melting cover in places like Malibu and Pasadena like we got some years back.
Also lol the area around Mount Baldy/Big Bear is going to get like 8ft goddamn.
Snow started accumulation right before rush hour, plenty of people stuck on roads and freeways now, and now it's dropping below freezing so yay ice.
Don't even know where they're supposed to go or when they're gonna get out.
I live Atlanta adjacent, this unfortunately sounds very familiar.
My coworkers friend was stuck in Portland traffic for 8 hours. Luckily she got home safe.
Surprisingly we didn't get any more snow down here, it Ice, which I'm thankful for.
Yeah, I was working retail at the time and had to abandon my car because they wouldn't cut us in time (shocker). Ended up walking about 10 miles home.
Fucking hell
The thing that powered most of my walk was the fact that the new CEO?President? of the company was in town (Guitar Center) visiting all the stores, and he got stuck on one of the interstates. It's actually the reason we weren't allowed to close, he was coming to our store. He had to walk to safety in business dress, and that sparks joy for me 9 years later.
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Nah, it's native Californians generally. Most tourists and transplants are from New England or the northern Midwest from what I've seen. Every time I went skiing in Tahoe it was a complete clown show from people that had no business driving in winter.
Start *clap* Nuking *clap* Hurricanes *clap*
It would be cool to see what would happen if we did a 100 Megaton airburst right in the middle, in a theoretical sense.
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there would be plenty of nice radioactive dust to scatter on the winds though
Something the size of tzar bomba could maybe do something at least visually interesting to a hurricane with a small eye. I agree in principle with your theory though.
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So we need something bigger. Got it.
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Maybe it's not the number of nukes. Maybe we just need a bigger conventional bomb.
A MOAMOAMOAB, perhaps.
and science in books tells me matter and antimatter make a real big boom
so
combine it with an antimoab
- hurricane from the southern hemisphere
- typhoon
- nor'easter
- some kind of.. earthquakeicane?
While reading I also came across this disturbing reminder of how dumb ideas can be, from the 1946 era of "we could just nuke the icecaps to mine under them!"
you need a large impactor, drop one of them big asteroids on it, that will put your pile of nukes to shame
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Yeah it was howling just a while ago
High wind gusts from last night, islands off the coast of SoCal cresting 80mph, tons of locations over 50mph and quite a few over 70mph in the mountains.
Also a blizzard warning has been issued for Los Angeles County and Ventura County mountains, This is the first blizzard warning EVER issued by NWS Los Angeles:
Finally, another chance to refloat my LA river house boat.
Updated potential rain totals and timing for the upcoming storm here in SoCal.
Also updated snowfall projection and wind projection. No accumulation projected for metro LA, as expected, but given the low ceiling on snow with this storm I wouldn't be surprised to see some flurries if you're closer to the foothills/places with a bit of elevation (like RPV). Maybe some light, quickly melting cover in places like Malibu and Pasadena like we got some years back.
Also lol the area around Mount Baldy/Big Bear is going to get like 8ft goddamn.
I wonder if it's worth trying to mob up to Mt Baldy on Sunday or Monday.
Nothing stuck, but we happened to be out for a walk at the time.
Plenty of video of graupel/hail coming out of the Pasadena area already, too.
Snow started accumulation right before rush hour, plenty of people stuck on roads and freeways now, and now it's dropping below freezing so yay ice.
Don't even know where they're supposed to go or when they're gonna get out.
I'm in the foothills outside of Eugene and have about a half of an inch sticking currently.
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Yea its going to be slick as shit tomorrow. Hopefully the roads dry out before it gets into the teens.
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I live Atlanta adjacent, this unfortunately sounds very familiar.
My coworkers friend was stuck in Portland traffic for 8 hours. Luckily she got home safe.
Surprisingly we didn't get any more snow down here, it Ice, which I'm thankful for.
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Yeah, I was working retail at the time and had to abandon my car because they wouldn't cut us in time (shocker). Ended up walking about 10 miles home.
Fucking hell
Next full week after that alternates between low of 16 and high of 57
Starting to think there might be something to this climate change talk...
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The thing that powered most of my walk was the fact that the new CEO?President? of the company was in town (Guitar Center) visiting all the stores, and he got stuck on one of the interstates. It's actually the reason we weren't allowed to close, he was coming to our store. He had to walk to safety in business dress, and that sparks joy for me 9 years later.