The Walz-Vance [Debate] thread on CBS, 9PM ET, Oct. 1, 2024

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2
    I don’t know what the fuck Vance is talking about

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  • XantomasXantomas Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    Wait, did this moderator have this question prepared, or did she pivot from Walz’s response to ask Vance about Iran back out deal?

    That did sound suspiciously like fact checking. Trump did tear up the Iran nuclear treaty, she tells him, after Walz mentions it as a response to Vance blaming Harris for Iran having weapons.

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    I’m not giving him any props here, but it’s weird to see someone on the Republican side in this election actually be able to form a coherent sentence

    Yeah legit Vance is doing much better than Trump so far.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I’m not giving him any props here, but it’s weird to see someone on the Republican side in this election actually be able to form a coherent sentence

    Yeah legit Vance is doing much better than Trump so far.

    He can speak English, so...

  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Legacy wrote: »
    How many 'peace through strength's are we gonna get from Vance? We're at 2 through...1 question. Hm.

    I mean, if that's the issue then I have a better proposal for super-villain leader:

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    Sure...look, I admit he has a troubling past but....

  • PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    I’m not giving him any props here, but it’s weird to see someone on the Republican side in this election actually be able to form a coherent sentence

    Vance is a bullshitter who's brain isn't complete mush.

    Everything he is saying is crap but he can deliver it coherently, especially without any pushback or tough follow up questions from media like "what makes you happy?"

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    For the sake of argument let's acknowledge physics

  • AlexandierAlexandier Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I’m not giving him any props here, but it’s weird to see someone on the Republican side in this election actually be able to form a coherent sentence

    Yeah legit Vance is doing much better than Trump so far.

    Seeing as that bar was buried deep below ground level Vance did I deed clear that hurdle.

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    That was a really good answer to Helene and climate change from Walz. Tying it into Vance’s dig about jobs as well was impressive.

  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    This Walz answer on Climate+Jobs is good.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    It took him a while to get there, but good on Walz

    Edit: oh shit another fact check

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Vance just lies confidently about everything.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Vance continues to lie about manufacturing and energy production not in America.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited October 2
    never die wrote: »
    Wait, did this moderator have this question prepared, or did she pivot from Walz’s response to ask Vance about Iran back out deal?

    Rebuttal I think.

    This is Vance’s weakest answer so far on climate change. Is trying to spin it into economic protectionism, which will resonate with some voter but sounds wishy washy.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2
    Walz keeps like adjusting himself and it looks like he’s about to lunge and choke the shit out of Vance

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Walz keeps like adjusting himself and it looks like he’s about to lunge and choke the shit out of Vance

    He really is just like us fr fr

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    Vance just lies confidently about everything.

    Yeah he's a very clear trolling shitpost archetype who manages to smoothly so far sell confidence in whatever bullshit leaves his mouth.

    He has exceeded my expectations so far but Walz is doing great too.

  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    Walz keeps like adjusting himself and it looks like he’s about to lunge and choke the shit out of Vance
    yeah he has some serious rage face going on every time Vance opens his mouth, it's kinda hilarious

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Vance just lies confidently about everything.

    This is why he terrifies me though: he's all the psychotic policy of Trump packaged up in a more presentable form with the ambition to try something stupid.

    In a standard debate format he does okay in terms of just lying through his teeth.

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2
    Yeah from the front he looks like America’s dad from the side. He looks like he’s a fucking street fighter versus portrait.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    CBS just factchecked that climate change does, indeed, exist

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Next question: Trump's deportation awfulness.

  • XantomasXantomas Registered User regular
    This is exactly why Vance is dangerous compared to Trump. He's going to lie just as outrageously as Trump does but he's going to sound a lot less insane doing it. And Vance is a hell of a lot smarter than Trump too.

    Of course Vance is creepy and unpopular and maybe that'll be what saves us.

    I thought Walz seemed pretty spooked and stilted at first, but he seems to be quickly getting the hang of it. Good!

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator mod
    Vance, being confronted about Trump by the moderators

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Xantomas wrote: »
    This is exactly why Vance is dangerous compared to Trump. He's going to lie just as outrageously as Trump does but he's going to sound a lot less insane doing it. And Vance is a hell of a lot smarter than Trump too.

    Of course Vance is creepy and unpopular and maybe that'll be what saves us.

    I thought Walz seemed pretty spooked and stilted at first, but he seems to be quickly getting the hang of it. Good!

    The fumbling between the words Israel and Iran was worrying.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Bring up the fact that Trump does everything he can to kill border bills

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Oh....oh joy....we're at the casual dictatorship part of the answers....

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2
    ….What the fuck is Vance talking about

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  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Vance just admitted that people on minimum wage can’t survive, he caught himself just as he was about to say that was great for regular Americans.

  • PotatoNinjaPotatoNinja Fake Gamer Goat Registered User regular
    Would be nice if they asked J.D. Vance why he was there.

    Not like "why did you show up" but

    why you, J.D., instead of the last VP from Trump's successful 2016 campaign?

    Weird issue to leave completely untouched.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Here we go!

    *pointless israel question*

    Fuuuuck!

    Ok, here we go

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Ahaha a hit on "Mexico will build it"

  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    Would be nice if they asked J.D. Vance why he was there.

    Not like "why did you show up" but

    why you, J.D., instead of the last VP from Trump's successful 2016 campaign?

    Weird issue to leave completely untouched.

    Marvel was able to work it out when they replace actors.

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  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    Walz actually seems a lot younger in this format than the impression I had from everything else I've seen.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I didn't accuse her of using children as drug mules, I accused her of enabling cartels to do that.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Don’t know if we want to open the door here Tim on governments not achieving goals over four years.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Calling Vance on "I create stories"

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    Walz did a good job rebutting Vance there.

    Also I really like how the moderators are handling fact checking a rebuttals here.

  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    I really can't tell how it's going so far. Walz looked nervous as hell at the start. Seems to be getting better.

    Vance is predictably smarmy.

  • NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Walz hitting Vance on the... stuff in Springfield. Talks.ablut demonizing fellow human beings.

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