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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    School district called to let parents know someone called in a non-specific threat to one of the elementary schools here. The police believe it was a “swatting” incident

  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
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    Thank you for your kind words everyone.

    We came Monday evening. First night was rough but we've surprised ourselves with how quickly we've hit our stride and how quickly everything we learned from our first came flooding back.

    My wife is now on a low dosage of antibiotics for at least 2 years.

    First round of vaccinations next week.

    The letter the hospital sent to the GP worked and they rang us. Quite efficient and joined up for the NHS!

    Seems like it's mainly bacterial infections that could be very dangerous for my wife which are thankfully less common.

    No evidence COVID is made worse by a lack of spleen.

    She's so incredible, everything she's been through yet she's still kicking arse as a mum.

    Mentally I'm struggling, I can't thinka bout the hospital without a low grade panic attack. I'm looking to refer myself for therapy.

    Fortunately I can work from home but I'll be expected in the office at some point and the thought of that is terrifying. I think what scared me the most was my wife not knowing where we all were in the hospital when she woke from her operation.

    Fortunately a midwife watched my twins for 10 mins whilst I ran up to her floor to bring her a phone on the Saturday morning.

    Hard to articulate my feelings.

    Just the thought of losing her was terrifying.

    Didn't help on the Saturday when we were reunited they brought us to the room I waited in whilst she had her emergency operation and I had no idea of she would live.

    Broke down in tears multiple times.

    Sorry for rambling.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That’s a lot for one person to handle. You have my condolences and support.

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    They’re beautiful. :D

  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    Middle School Parent-Teacher Conference was 95% "you've got just the sweetest, smartest kid" and 5% "...so... did someone else tell you about the "Let It Go" incident?"

    ...Which was apparently Math class getting to watch Frozen as some sort of reward, Elsa's theme song coming on, and my teenager "oh, fuck this"-ing so loudly out of the classroom that it became an event

    And I'm torn exactly halfway between "dude, you know better than to behave like that in public, even if you're provoked", and "honestly, if I had to hear it one more f***ing time, I'd probably lose my shit and walk into the ocean, too"

  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited October 12
    Another day of "Middle Guy needs looked at like plants need the sun", and honestly it's wearing pretty thin on the whole family today

    This morning everyone was enjoying funny Tiktik videos with momma around the couch, and at some point you can almost hear the *click* in his head as he starts getting jealous that something else is providing people entertainment. So the clown act comes out, and he's throwing everything at the wall, just short of breaking plates over his head and smashing pies into his face. And today the family is just collectively like...no? We want to watch some videos...we've all seen the clown act, a million times at least, and are bored by it right now, dude. Watch some puppies riding turtles

    And getting that direct feedback from four people, instead of listening at all, he just triples down and is basically yelling over the video for our attention, and when he calmly gets sent to his room after like four separate warnings, acts like the world has collectively kicked over his sandcastle

    And the real frustrating thing today specifically was watching it dawn on him that's what he's seeking is negative attention, and then driving off that cliff anyway, like it was a compulsion. For as much as he didn't want to go to his room, you could tell him getting sent up was like a sneeze releasing, where he's like, "woo! Someone looked at me-so, worth it!", and I find that pretty concerning

    mrpaku on
  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    How old are we talking about here?

    I am in the business of saving lives.
  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    edited October 12
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    How old are we talking about here?

    4th grade, 9-but-just-about-to-be-10, IEP for speech and social but in the 90th+% on his school grades, Middle Child but has at least three local peers he gets to spend independent time with pretty regular (once/twice/thrice a month) during time apart (occasion joined by) his brothers, at least once to twice a week where he gets 1-2+ hours alone with mom/dad, and a rotating "just for me" weekend at the grandparents which is two hours away

    mrpaku on
  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited October 15
    I desperately want mornings to be fun/chill, but Liitle King (8 years) just does everything super slowly and ihes constantly distracted when it's time to get ready to cycle to school. He wakes up very early, makes his own breakfast and entertains himself for an hour until I wake up, but we still end up almost late for school every day.

    This morning he wanted to play a short card game, so we agreed to first get dressed and then we could play a round. When my alarm went off to brush our teeth and put on our shoes he just went full on dumb. He said he still had to eat breakfast, he suddenly noticed a stain on his hoodie, he started to play with his toys, he eventually showed up to brush his teeth while he still had food in his mouth. He forgot that I always tell him to first clean his mouth with water. When I scolded him for being tardy he was convinced that he was in fact rushing. Immediately followed by trying to go back to his room. My partner and I got so frustrated and angry, I told him every minute he would be late, would be another day without screens.

    When we finally got on our bike and cycled to school he also seemed incapable to understand that I regretted playing a card game with him. I had calmed down a bit and tried to remind him of the time we went to school on time and we even had some time to look at flowers. He remembered that, but it felt like he could not connect his own behaviour to why both his parents were angry with him.

    Aldo on
  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Shitshitshitshitshit.

    My 11yo told a girl he liked her yesterday (at the behest of all his friends peer pressure) and she might have mumbled she likes him back (at the behest of all her friends peer pressure).


    I am not prepared for this. I thought I'd have more time. I don't know where this slick motherfucker got his riz from, because I was still learning girls fucking... existed as people when I was 11.

    There is not enough alcohol in the house for me to cope with this shit.

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    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
  • KetarKetar Registered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    Shitshitshitshitshit.

    My 11yo told a girl he liked her yesterday (at the behest of all his friends peer pressure) and she might have mumbled she likes him back (at the behest of all her friends peer pressure).


    I am not prepared for this. I thought I'd have more time. I don't know where this slick motherfucker got his riz from, because I was still learning girls fucking... existed as people when I was 11.

    There is not enough alcohol in the house for me to cope with this shit.

    11? Just laugh about it and file it away to tease him about later.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    No school today or tomorrow so OF COURSE Owen woke up even earlier…

  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    Ketar wrote: »
    Fishman wrote: »
    Shitshitshitshitshit.

    My 11yo told a girl he liked her yesterday (at the behest of all his friends peer pressure) and she might have mumbled she likes him back (at the behest of all her friends peer pressure).


    I am not prepared for this. I thought I'd have more time. I don't know where this slick motherfucker got his riz from, because I was still learning girls fucking... existed as people when I was 11.

    There is not enough alcohol in the house for me to cope with this shit.

    11? Just laugh about it and file it away to tease him about later.

    They'll probably break up tomorrow and next week they'll add each other on Brawl Stars. :D

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    My daughter is 9 and she and a boy have definitely gotten close. She's told us she thinks she really likes him and they talk on the phone all the time.

    Just let them have their fun, it's fine. :)

  • mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    Ketar wrote: »
    Fishman wrote: »
    Shitshitshitshitshit.

    My 11yo told a girl he liked her yesterday (at the behest of all his friends peer pressure) and she might have mumbled she likes him back (at the behest of all her friends peer pressure).


    I am not prepared for this. I thought I'd have more time. I don't know where this slick motherfucker got his riz from, because I was still learning girls fucking... existed as people when I was 11.

    There is not enough alcohol in the house for me to cope with this shit.

    11? Just laugh about it and file it away to tease him about later.

    I'm gonna have to disagree pretty strongly on this. Fishman's kid probably hasn't just met the love of his life, but a first love/crush can be a huge deal for someone, especially a developing adolescent (and especially a certain type of adolescent). You're learning about romantic pursuit, and boundaries, and rejection, and trying to care about someone besides yourself for the first real time, IMO

    My 13 year old has had a big ol' crush on the same girl since we moved here for going on like, three years now. They "dated" for exactly a week after he got up the courage to "ask her out", but she broke it off because she "didn't like him like that". But, their social circles cross all the time now in and out of school, my guy still carries a bit of a torch, and it's good to see him have to handle that, and learn to be good friends with her anyway. I think those are invaluable lessons for a young guy to have to learn

    And I think he lets me in on all this info still since he trusts me with it, because I've tried to treat it with the respect he thinks it deserves. I do not think he'd confide in me that way at thirteen if I was teasing him or not taking his feelings seriously. Maybe in twenty years it'll be a funny story for us both, that crush he had in elementary/middle school, but right now it can feel like the whole world to a kid

  • KetarKetar Registered User regular
    mrpaku wrote: »
    Ketar wrote: »
    Fishman wrote: »
    Shitshitshitshitshit.

    My 11yo told a girl he liked her yesterday (at the behest of all his friends peer pressure) and she might have mumbled she likes him back (at the behest of all her friends peer pressure).


    I am not prepared for this. I thought I'd have more time. I don't know where this slick motherfucker got his riz from, because I was still learning girls fucking... existed as people when I was 11.

    There is not enough alcohol in the house for me to cope with this shit.

    11? Just laugh about it and file it away to tease him about later.

    I'm gonna have to disagree pretty strongly on this. Fishman's kid probably hasn't just met the love of his life, but a first love/crush can be a huge deal for someone, especially a developing adolescent (and especially a certain type of adolescent). You're learning about romantic pursuit, and boundaries, and rejection, and trying to care about someone besides yourself for the first real time, IMO

    My 13 year old has had a big ol' crush on the same girl since we moved here for going on like, three years now. They "dated" for exactly a week after he got up the courage to "ask her out", but she broke it off because she "didn't like him like that". But, their social circles cross all the time now in and out of school, my guy still carries a bit of a torch, and it's good to see him have to handle that, and learn to be good friends with her anyway. I think those are invaluable lessons for a young guy to have to learn

    And I think he lets me in on all this info still since he trusts me with it, because I've tried to treat it with the respect he thinks it deserves. I do not think he'd confide in me that way at thirteen if I was teasing him or not taking his feelings seriously. Maybe in twenty years it'll be a funny story for us both, that crush he had in elementary/middle school, but right now it can feel like the whole world to a kid

    When I say file it away to tease him about later, I mean when he's an adult. I have a 13 year old son, I've gone through all of this with him.

  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    I'd forgotten how cute baby snoring and grunting is.

    I like having them both on my chest, one either side of head, surround sound!

  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    one of my uncles took me to Burger King and gave me a dating talk because my dad was too autistic to handle it.

    my first relationship was an opportunity for me to tease my dad about it.

  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    What are people's experiences with tablets for kids. She just had her 5th bithday and with how the schoolsystem and the cutoff date for school works it's be summer of 2026 when she starts school. As far as I can tell tablets are now a big part of school.

    She can handle a mobile phone no problems, but that's only for looking at photos on my wife's or mine phone or a bit or for selecting audiobooks or music to listen too or for a bit of streaming for travelling mostly.

    So I'm kinda looking for a way to maybe start with a tablet before she starts school, and some advice for products, parental controls, learning apps and some advisory resources?

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    School picture day should be immediately when they arrive.

    Not after lunch and gym!!!

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    What are people's experiences with tablets for kids. She just had her 5th bithday and with how the schoolsystem and the cutoff date for school works it's be summer of 2026 when she starts school. As far as I can tell tablets are now a big part of school.

    She can handle a mobile phone no problems, but that's only for looking at photos on my wife's or mine phone or a bit or for selecting audiobooks or music to listen too or for a bit of streaming for travelling mostly.

    So I'm kinda looking for a way to maybe start with a tablet before she starts school, and some advice for products, parental controls, learning apps and some advisory resources?

    We just use ipads with home rules+screentime rules on them (all but reading app is cutoff after 7PM for example). All app store stuff requires approval. It works pretty well if you're willing to be on the ball with it.

  • KetarKetar Registered User regular
    School picture day should be immediately when they arrive.

    Not after lunch and gym!!!

    Wouldn't that be nice?

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited October 22
    honovere wrote: »
    What are people's experiences with tablets for kids. She just had her 5th bithday and with how the schoolsystem and the cutoff date for school works it's be summer of 2026 when she starts school. As far as I can tell tablets are now a big part of school.

    She can handle a mobile phone no problems, but that's only for looking at photos on my wife's or mine phone or a bit or for selecting audiobooks or music to listen too or for a bit of streaming for travelling mostly.

    So I'm kinda looking for a way to maybe start with a tablet before she starts school, and some advice for products, parental controls, learning apps and some advisory resources?

    Amazon Fire Kids tablets are pretty great. Buying the year of content (Amazon kids+) is kind of necessary but the parental controls are really good, you can control how much time your child has in which category of app (books, games, media) and it's completely gated away from the Internet and the big foam cover for the tablet that it comes with renders it pretty much indestructible. The tablet itself usually lasts 12-18 months, Fire tablets being what they are, but they used to throw in one free replacement with no questions asked, I don't know if they still do. My younger child had one from when she was 4 to 8ish and she was happy with it and we were really happy with it.

    Edit: Amazon Kids+ is basically a walled garden of games, e-books, music, and kids shows that the kid's tablet has unlimited access to. They kill the monetization in the games so there's no issue there and all you need to worry about as a parent is clearing space for them once in a while when they download too much stuff and explaining why their tablet doesn't have YouTube, level of dishonesty is up to you.

    Peen on
  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    You can also get to a probably clone of YouTube pretty easily, or browse it via the web browser, if you get a regular kindle fire tablet and put it kids mode

  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    While tablets are increasingly a part of just.. kids nowadays, I really wish they weren't. If you're just concerned about being behind in school due to just not getting tablets, then I would hold off on getting a tablet unless you find it necessary for homework. Tablet are easy enough that they can pick up what they need in school.
    If you want a tablet for general entertainment, be sure to learn the parental controls and how to easily access them. Set up limits early so they become just a part of the experience. We did like some of the learning apps, especially some of the learning-to-read apps, as it helped with phonemic awareness for them to hear it. But it's been a while, so I don't know what's currently good, but we did like Endless ABC and Endless Reader. My daughter was responsible enough for an iPad, but my son got the more sturdy Amazon Fire. He can do enough of what he wants to do on it.

    If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    There are very few things that I get up on a soapbox about, and I won't now, but I couldn't see any good reason for my small children to have access to YouTube, and they didn't. There is an unbelievable ocean of good children's media out there and there is just no good reason to let a small child bully you into letting them use YouTube, it's 99.9% bullshit and you can choose when to show them the .1%.

  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    My son fell into the rabbit hole of YouTube math videos. I now know about platonic solids and mersenne primes. I refuse to learn about Archimedean solids and the different types of infinity, though.

    If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Yeah, Theia can use an iPad, but we only let her use it as a media consumption thing, and we’re pretty picky with what we let her watch.

    Even under the umbrella of “kids stuff” there is a whole bunch of stuff that isn’t really appropriate.

  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Thanks for all the input.

    I'm in no hurry to get her more access to screens, but it's nice to get a few more points of view

  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    It's also worth asking about what kinds of tablets get utilized for schools in your area. Around here they're all issued a chromebook to use, which is far more a laptop than a tablet, it just also has a touch screen.

    If that's what your district uses too, then an iPad or Kindle Fire are less useful for preparing them specifically for school usage. Still useful, just less so.

  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Rain . . . Centralia, WARegistered User regular
    I'm almost certainly odd person out here when it comes to pads and screens, because my kid learned how to read and then talk using screens, and nothing else was making any impact. He learned to read while he was watching us play Animal Crossing during the pandemic, and then used that understanding with the chromebook the school gave him to video call into classes during the pandemic, as I'd been teaching him to touch the keyboard keys when the class would say the alphabet since he wouldn't say the letters (or say anything at all, at that time). So then he had the letters and kept watching us play games with words and eventually he realized that if he arranged letters just so on his chromebook . . . he could find things he wanted to look for. And he found his way around the limits of the school chromebook fairly quick, so I've had to keep an eye on him and what he's getting into, and it's exhausting sometimes, but he took all that knowledge and just started chattering away when he was finally able to attend classes in person.

    He's not one to use a screen all day anyways, he gets bored of them and moves on to something else, but I don't limit his screen time mainly because we just have a set night schedule. He gets a bath at a certain time, eats dinner at a certain time, gets a story at a certain time, and then it's time for bed, every night, like literal clockwork (there are alarms set on my phone for each thing). He loves, even demands order and things working by the schedule, and when they don't he gets squirrely, but when it comes to free time, he's just as likely to randomly choose toys over the "Minecraft pad".

    Basically, when it comes to him and screens, I don't feel any need to set strict rules around the screens themselves.

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  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    Really enjoyed hearing some random people saying "glad that's not us" about us whilst we're at the park with our twins and 5 year old.....

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    I think the only reasonable thing to do in that case is try to make it clear that you're extremely happy with your three beautiful children and that if that's what they're upset about then they should go find the pond in the park and jump in and stay there, go be pond people.

  • ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Really enjoyed hearing some random people saying "glad that's not us" about us whilst we're at the park with our twins and 5 year old.....

    glad I'm not them, sounds miserable

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    There are very few things that I get up on a soapbox about, and I won't now, but I couldn't see any good reason for my small children to have access to YouTube, and they didn't. There is an unbelievable ocean of good children's media out there and there is just no good reason to let a small child bully you into letting them use YouTube, it's 99.9% bullshit and you can choose when to show them the .1%.

    Yep, my kids only see youtube/videos when I or my wife show them to them or we set it to a channel like the draw-alongs. I don't think they've missed out on anything as a result. I did have my son introduce me to Shreksophone that a friend showed him, so they're getting more exposure these days.

  • ThroThro pgroome@penny-arcade.com Registered User regular
    edited October 24
    Oldest (9) is a giant ancient lifeforms nerd and the only thing he watches on his own on youtube right now is PBS Eons. Which is honestly a pretty well done low budget series of shorts on ancient life and stuff. Kept the youtube suggestion algorithm pretty good too.
    He'd probably like to do more Minecraft videos and things of that nature, but aside from things like Parkour Civilization (obviously the pinnacle of the genre) I'm very wary of letting him just go through those channels on his own.

    Thro on
  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Like anything else, every kid is different. Ripley is in first grade and it sounds like she's the only one who doesn't use screens at home. We play videogames together, but no video apps for her.

    It's no hard or fast rule, but my hunch is the longer to can keep acutely developing brains from THE ALGORITHM, the better you're off.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Booger CoveRegistered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Really enjoyed hearing some random people saying "glad that's not us" about us whilst we're at the park with our twins and 5 year old.....

    I am in the same boat and those people can go fuck themselves

    Will they ever get a picture of their kids as good as this? No, no they will not.

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  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    spono wrote: »
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Really enjoyed hearing some random people saying "glad that's not us" about us whilst we're at the park with our twins and 5 year old.....

    I am in the same boat and those people can go fuck themselves

    Will they ever get a picture of their kids as good as this? No, no they will not.

    5h1u3q8u093i.jpg

    What a lovely picture!

    Thanks everyone, made me a feel a lot better!

    In laws are arriving today.

    You may remember me posting about my mother in law 5 years ago when she came to visit after our older son was born.

    She wanted to smoke in the house amongst other things.

    Hopefully it goes better this time! At least they're not actually staying in our house this time so we'll have some space.

  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    My kiddo was invited a week and change ago to gather with some friends and trick or treat together, but there was no followup after the initial interest check.

    I'm...extremely glad they never followed up. We made plans for trick or treating with some other good friends, but had finally got the followup message from that first friend saying they were going to the Mall for a trick or treat event thing there and did they want to join (it was raining pretty much all night long.)

    Some time during that 3 hour event there was a shooting in the food court, killing 1 and injuring 2 others, and they're still at large.

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