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  • GilgaronGilgaron Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Hey so I just saw my first commercial for Yes on Issue 1 today, after an estimated 1/3 of Ohio ballots have been cast, great job everyone

    Also the top donor to the PAC responsible for the “vote No to ban gerrymandering” shit everywhere is Jimmy and Dee Haslam (iykyk)

    Ohio Democrats have been absolutely fucking up. I have received exactly zero mailers this entire election cycle. My wife has picked up both D and R stuff.

    I just got some about the Ohio Supreme Court seats, I get so many every day from the GOP on the other hand. One thing no one has sent around this time so far is one of the party slate cards which seems odd.

  • kaidkaid Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    I don't like Harris's response or Biden's clarification. I understand why they're doing it but I don't think it's necessary but do definitely think it's cowardly.

    It's like they all collectively forgot about why "weird" was a success.

    Calling politicians weird is okay. Calling the voters names is where lots of folks draw the line.

    Harris's response was the correct one. She wants to be the president of the united states not half of it. That is a big part where she differs from trump and reiterating her stance makes total sense.

  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    I don't like Harris's response or Biden's clarification. I understand why they're doing it but I don't think it's necessary but do definitely think it's cowardly.

    It's like they all collectively forgot about why "weird" was a success.

    Calling politicians weird is okay. Calling the voters names is where lots of folks draw the line.

    I disagree. I think we're so far past name calling at this point as to be meaningless. But my point is more, backtracking on it is even worse because then you're just enabling the system to keep doing what it's doing, and giving whiney babies what they want. IMO ignore it, and if pressed point directly back to that racist rally at MSG.

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Wasn't it already established that this forum doesn't have its collective thumb on the pulse?

    Weird wasn't ever really the campaign's slogan. It was a thing that caught fire because Walz said it prior to his selection. And, no matter how much the campaign may have embraced it, messaging evolves over time anyway. Whether any of us liked it, it wasn't going to be the only thing they'd be saying and it absolutely would get old and less effective to the voting populace as a whole.

    Now is exactly the time to be pointing out how awful Trump and his cohort is. There is room for both messages, but weird isn't enough on its own.

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  • Monkey Ball WarriorMonkey Ball Warrior A collection of mediocre hats Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited October 30
    I would even say it is easy to overdo the weird thing and it should be used sparringly. It's funny and true, but it should not be the actual focus of the campaign because it's also juvenile. And she hasn't been! She's been doing a great job of mostly just focusing on policy and trump's specific, personal terribleness. The switch to her has been increasingly obviously a good call.

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  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    Vice President Harris: I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. You heard my speech last night. I believe the work that I do is about representing all the people, whether they support me or not. I will be a President for all Americans.
    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1851630931188027588

    ANY?? It's certainly bad politics to say out loud that Trump voters should jump in a lake, or even better the ocean, but don't say you don't actually believe in anything...

    A president's job is to preside over all citizens, not to enshrine their supporters as the good ones. We also don't need spite votes for Trump.

    That's true, but also it's definitely really weird to agree that, like, we shouldn't force people to die if they have a nonviable fetus in them, but disagree that we should criticize re-voting for the guy who has and will continue to set in motion events which force people to die if they have a nonviable fetus in them.

    Like I get it, but also I don't really think it's wrong to look at that and be like =/

  • ZomroZomro Registered User regular
    As an aside, I have been mildly amused at the ads I've seen trying to get people to vote 'No' on Amendment 3, the marijuana one, here in Florida (online, as I don't have regular TV). Just full on lying and scaremongering about it. The desperation is hilarious.

  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    So in more useless EV news.

    City of Milwaukee had in person 6700 EVs yesterday and 1100 of them were day of registrations. There were approximately 285k registered voters in Milwaukee as of Oct 1st. And in the last 2 days 2k people have registered while early voting.

    Hope or Cope I don't know, but I'm taking the registrations as a positive sign, especially as non-registered voters aren't going to show in any RV or LV screens.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 30
    CNN: WI +6, MI +5, PA tied

    Finally somebody not herding. The WI number is the one I'm encouraged about just based on Trump ranting about the GOP internals in PA and the 500k Puerto Ricans who live there.

    EDIT: Also UAW polled its members in the swing states, 57-32 Harris. Not sure on their historical numbers besides they were heavily for Obama in 2012 for obvious reasons.

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    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    Vice President Harris: I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. You heard my speech last night. I believe the work that I do is about representing all the people, whether they support me or not. I will be a President for all Americans.
    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1851630931188027588

    ANY?? It's certainly bad politics to say out loud that Trump voters should jump in a lake, or even better the ocean, but don't say you don't actually believe in anything...

    A president's job is to preside over all citizens, not to enshrine their supporters as the good ones. We also don't need spite votes for Trump.

    That's true, but also it's definitely really weird to agree that, like, we shouldn't force people to die if they have a nonviable fetus in them, but disagree that we should criticize re-voting for the guy who has and will continue to set in motion events which force people to die if they have a nonviable fetus in them.

    Like I get it, but also I don't really think it's wrong to look at that and be like =/

    The problem is you should be giving that face to the voters. The politicians are just responding to how they take this kind of thing.

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    Vice President Harris: I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. You heard my speech last night. I believe the work that I do is about representing all the people, whether they support me or not. I will be a President for all Americans.
    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1851630931188027588

    ANY?? It's certainly bad politics to say out loud that Trump voters should jump in a lake, or even better the ocean, but don't say you don't actually believe in anything...

    A president's job is to preside over all citizens, not to enshrine their supporters as the good ones. We also don't need spite votes for Trump.

    That's true, but also it's definitely really weird to agree that, like, we shouldn't force people to die if they have a nonviable fetus in them, but disagree that we should criticize re-voting for the guy who has and will continue to set in motion events which force people to die if they have a nonviable fetus in them.

    Like I get it, but also I don't really think it's wrong to look at that and be like =/

    That's our duty as citizens not in power over others.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited October 30
    urahonky wrote: »
    Hey so I just saw my first commercial for Yes on Issue 1 today, after an estimated 1/3 of Ohio ballots have been cast, great job everyone

    Also the top donor to the PAC responsible for the “vote No to ban gerrymandering” shit everywhere is Jimmy and Dee Haslam (iykyk)

    Ohio Democrats have been absolutely fucking up. I have received exactly zero mailers this entire election cycle. My wife has picked up both D and R stuff.

    This is the Citizens, Not Politicans PAC (for which I’m a volunteer, actually)- Ohio Dems are solely, exclusively focused on re-electing Brown

    This is the commercial featuring the former Republican Ohio Supreme Court justice who backs Issue 1 calling out the lies (funded by the Haslams!) and Frank LaRose- it features her party affiliation prominently to reverse-judo No voters into voting Yes

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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    I was trying to find an article from last year or so which went into the White House or Congress's 'wargames' of how Trump coup 2.0 might play out and how to defend against it (I vaguely remember the answer they came to was - it would be very difficult to do so in time, purely legislatively) and came across this one that seemed interesting.

    It's a piece in the Atlantic looking at the behind the scenes efforts that took place in 2020 to prevent a coup spearheaded by the US Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO.
    A weird thing happened right after the Nov. 3 election: nothing.

    The nation was braced for chaos. Liberal groups had vowed to take to the streets, planning hundreds of protests across the country. Right-wing militias were girding for battle. In a poll before Election Day, 75% of Americans voiced concern about violence.

    Instead, an eerie quiet descended. As President Trump refused to concede, the response was not mass action but crickets. When media organizations called the race for Joe Biden on Nov. 7, jubilation broke out instead, as people thronged cities across the U.S. to celebrate the democratic process that resulted in Trump’s ouster.

    A second odd thing happened amid Trump’s attempts to reverse the result: corporate America turned on him. Hundreds of major business leaders, many of whom had backed Trump’s candidacy and supported his policies, called on him to concede. To the President, something felt amiss. “It was all very, very strange,” Trump said on Dec. 2. “Within days after the election, we witnessed an orchestrated effort to anoint the winner, even while many key states were still being counted.”

    In a way, Trump was right.

    There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

    The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    CNN: WI +6, MI +5, PA tied

    Finally somebody not herding. The WI number is the one I'm encouraged about just based on Trump ranting about the GOP internals in PA and the 500k Puerto Ricans who live there.

    EDIT: Also UAW polled its members in the swing states, 57-32 Harris. Not sure on their historical numbers besides they were heavily for Obama in 2012 for obvious reasons.

    Considering Democrats are the only reason they still have a pension fund, and Harris being the literal tie vote on it, that's still a bit dispiriting.


    What have the Romans ever done for us?

  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    CNN: WI +6, MI +5, PA tied

    Finally somebody not herding. The WI number is the one I'm encouraged about just based on Trump ranting about the GOP internals and the 500k Puerto Ricans who live there.

    Marquette Law is supposed to release their WI poll this afternoon as well. They've been better at the midterms than the presidentials, but I think 538 has them ranked as the 3rd best polling outfit.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Hey so I just saw my first commercial for Yes on Issue 1 today, after an estimated 1/3 of Ohio ballots have been cast, great job everyone

    Also the top donor to the PAC responsible for the “vote No to ban gerrymandering” shit everywhere is Jimmy and Dee Haslam (iykyk)

    Ohio Democrats have been absolutely fucking up. I have received exactly zero mailers this entire election cycle. My wife has picked up both D and R stuff.

    This is the Citizens, Not Politicans PAC (for which I’m a volunteer, actually)- Ohio Dems are solely, exclusively focused on re-electing Brown

    Also not for nothing but if you're a committed voter already then not receiving mailers is the campaign doing a good job. I haven't received any Dem mailers because I'm a comically obvious lock for those candidates.

    We're all in this together
  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Hey so I just saw my first commercial for Yes on Issue 1 today, after an estimated 1/3 of Ohio ballots have been cast, great job everyone

    Also the top donor to the PAC responsible for the “vote No to ban gerrymandering” shit everywhere is Jimmy and Dee Haslam (iykyk)

    Ohio Democrats have been absolutely fucking up. I have received exactly zero mailers this entire election cycle. My wife has picked up both D and R stuff.

    This is the Citizens, Not Politicans PAC (for which I’m a volunteer, actually)- Ohio Dems are solely, exclusively focused on re-electing Brown

    Also not for nothing but if you're a committed voter already then not receiving mailers is the campaign doing a good job. I haven't received any Dem mailers because I'm a comically obvious lock for those candidates.

    So Cards Against Humanity found my wife is very very blue but thinks I’m merely a blue leaner (hilarious, I radicalized her)- I got a mailer, my wife did not.

    Given CAH says they bought the same data all the campaigns do, I guess that is evidence of something?

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »

    Including mine today and my parents.

    It was frustrating because it is my local paper but the message needed to be sent this isn't acceptable.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    The funny thing I've been wanting to cancel my sub for awhile now, but every time I did I sat that "Resub for half price" thing pop up and reconsidered.

    I'm happy I waffled for so long because it let me cancel my sub NOW. :)

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Hey so I just saw my first commercial for Yes on Issue 1 today, after an estimated 1/3 of Ohio ballots have been cast, great job everyone

    Also the top donor to the PAC responsible for the “vote No to ban gerrymandering” shit everywhere is Jimmy and Dee Haslam (iykyk)

    Ohio Democrats have been absolutely fucking up. I have received exactly zero mailers this entire election cycle. My wife has picked up both D and R stuff.

    This is the Citizens, Not Politicans PAC (for which I’m a volunteer, actually)- Ohio Dems are solely, exclusively focused on re-electing Brown

    Also not for nothing but if you're a committed voter already then not receiving mailers is the campaign doing a good job. I haven't received any Dem mailers because I'm a comically obvious lock for those candidates.

    So Cards Against Humanity found my wife is very very blue but thinks I’m merely a blue leaner (hilarious, I radicalized her)- I got a mailer, my wife did not.

    Given CAH says they bought the same data all the campaigns do, I guess that is evidence of something?

    People always expect it to be more complete than it is but it usually comes down to:
    - Party registration
    - Do you vote every election (including specials and primaries)
    - Have you already answered survey questions
    - The really reaching/vague stuff like how blue/red is your zip code and other things that they're just adding to the mix so they can be like wow our voter information system is so complete and helpful

    Surveys are always going to be where they try to separate "registered as a Dem 30 years ago but always votes Republican" people from the ones who actually always vote Dem. If you never really answer any phone calls, canvassers, or text bankers you're always going to be a bit of a question-mark. And hell even if you do the data-entry and filtering are never perfect.

    We're all in this together
  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Trump is having a real one ranting and raving about all the voter fraud in Pennsylvania. Prettttty sure the GOP internals have Harris winning that state.

    WI is my only real concern right now. EV is not looking so hot. I'd like to see way more young folks participating

  • kaidkaid Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Trump is having a real one ranting and raving about all the voter fraud in Pennsylvania. Prettttty sure the GOP internals have Harris winning that state.

    WI is my only real concern right now. EV is not looking so hot. I'd like to see way more young folks participating

    Having stood in line for an hour yesterday to vote turn out looks pretty darn strong so far it was the longest it has taken me to vote in I don't even remember how long and that was on a tuesday at 4:30 a week before the actual election.

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Trump is having a real one ranting and raving about all the voter fraud in Pennsylvania. Prettttty sure the GOP internals have Harris winning that state.

    WI is my only real concern right now. EV is not looking so hot. I'd like to see way more young folks participating

    I think @enlightenedbum pointed it out, most college votes are late.

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    CNN: WI +6, MI +5, PA tied

    Finally somebody not herding. The WI number is the one I'm encouraged about just based on Trump ranting about the GOP internals in PA and the 500k Puerto Ricans who live there.

    EDIT: Also UAW polled its members in the swing states, 57-32 Harris. Not sure on their historical numbers besides they were heavily for Obama in 2012 for obvious reasons.

    Considering Democrats are the only reason they still have a pension fund, and Harris being the literal tie vote on it, that's still a bit dispiriting.


    What have the Romans ever done for us?

    Poll is showing what all polls show, good or bad. Catastrophic instability due to low and biased response rates in key demographics which means the entire concept is worthless.

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited October 30
    Yeah that's what I'm hoping too. I'd just like to see the younger voter numbers line up with some of the other states. Also, I really could use someone who is an expert on Texas. Because the EV numbers and exits are looking very encouraging, but I don't understand what the in person day-of split usually looks like

    Roz on
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Trump is having a real one ranting and raving about all the voter fraud in Pennsylvania. Prettttty sure the GOP internals have Harris winning that state.

    @enlightenedbum he also canceled appearing at Beaver Stadium in Happy Valley this Saturday

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    MrMister wrote: »
    Here’s the clip, for reference https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2-E-tThyk1E

    The current WH clarification that he was saying racism is the garbage of the supporters, rather than that the supporters are garbage, doesn’t seem to be true.

    I think it was a bad thing to say because all it does is give cover for people to get offended and use a both sides narrative to defuse the blowback over the MSG rally. They may not be successful, but giving them the chance to try was an error. Errors happen, c’est la vie.

    (Also, on a side note, PA posters as a group are a bad bellwether for the pluses and minuses of going negative on opposing voters.)

    Anyone who is so offended by this that they go "BOTH SIDES! BOTH SIDES!" was never going to vote for Harris.

    Like, I don't understand why you would give them the benefit of the doubt on this beyond purely playing devil's advocate.

    Sure they likely were never going to vote for Harris. But they might have stayed home. Ignorant assholes tend to be lazy assholes. We don't need Joe Biden out here getting them fired up and motivated to go vote by insulting them personally.

    Do they deserve to be called on their shit? Yes. Is insulting them and giving them motivation to vote a week out from a critical election a good idea? No. It is possible to hold both thoughts in the same head.

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  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    https://twitter.com/MULawPoll

    Is tweeting out each section of the poll, but the actual thing hasn't been posted yet. GD annoying. But basically tied race.

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  • madparrotmadparrot Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Also, as mentioned above, this happened:
    https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-virginia-voter-registration-purge-ba3d785d9d2d169d9c02207a42893757
    The Supreme Court’s conservative majority on Wednesday allowed Virginia to resume its purge of voter registrations that the state says is aimed at stopping people who are not U.S. citizens from voting.

    The high court, over the dissents of the three liberal justices, granted an emergency appeal from Virginia’s Republican administration led by Gov. Glenn Youngkin. The court provided no rationale for its action, which is typical in emergency appeals.

    Election is in 6 days, SCOTUS says to purge away with zero explanation. Not that we need one since it's obvious what is going on.


    NPR already reported yesterday on how this has provably been purging US citizens from the rolls:
    https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5169204/virginia-noncitizen-voter-purge

    Texas has started purging citizens as well, without notifying them and while refusing to reinstate them (unless a prominent media organization goes to bat):
    https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/29/texas-noncitizen-voter-roll-removal-mary-howard-elley/
    Mary Howard-Elley fervently believes illegal immigration in the U.S. is a critical problem that only former President Donald Trump can solve. She says the continuation of his border wall and promised mass deportations will make the country safer.

    She agrees with Trump’s unfounded claims that Democrats are opening the borders to allow noncitizens to vote, fearing that it could ultimately cost him the election.

    Howard-Elley didn’t pay much attention when Texas Gov. Greg Abbott helped fuel that narrative by announcing that the state had removed thousands of supposed noncitizens from its rolls, claiming some had a history of voting.

    Then the U.S. citizen learned she was among them.
    bonus TLDR: she had to jump through a bunch of hoops, getting denied at every turn, finally got reinstated after the Tribune poked around, and says after all that Trumpy big-lie fueled shit she had to go through...
    she will be voting for him again.

  • TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    edited October 30
    Morning Joe openly mocked Trump world for trying to create Deplorables 2.0:
    The segment kicked off with "Morning Joe" regular Jonathan Lemire reporting on Trump and Fox News trying to make hay out of the comment which Biden asserted later was aimed solely at the Madison Square Garden rally comedian who smeared Puerto Rico and created a firestorm for the Trump campaign which has been in damage control ever since.

    As Lemire explained, "The president said something and immediately tried to clarify it, Joe, but certainly a story on the right who are trying to paint this to be the next basket of deplorables."

    A laughing Scarborough replied, "Well, of course. Donald Trump says shocking things every day on Fox News and all of his apologists in the Republican Party immediately go to it and brush it off and explain it away or just completely ignore it."

    "Here, they are trying to make a firestorm out of something that, again, if you look at it, you see what he said immediately afterward, which Donald Trump didn't say, and he said I was talking about the comedian and people who support that kind of talk," he elaborated.

    Fuckers don't get to cry about other people being mean to them, that's so obvious that even regular news media is saying it.

    EDIT: And, of course, Aaron Rupar with the killing blow:
    Trump: "These are horrible people. Oops, we should get along with everybody. They're horrible people. Some people you just can't get along with."

    "B-but-but Biden" Pfffft.

    TryCatcher on
  • fortisfortis OhioRegistered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Hey so I just saw my first commercial for Yes on Issue 1 today, after an estimated 1/3 of Ohio ballots have been cast, great job everyone

    Also the top donor to the PAC responsible for the “vote No to ban gerrymandering” shit everywhere is Jimmy and Dee Haslam (iykyk)

    Ohio Democrats have been absolutely fucking up. I have received exactly zero mailers this entire election cycle. My wife has picked up both D and R stuff.

    This is the Citizens, Not Politicans PAC (for which I’m a volunteer, actually)- Ohio Dems are solely, exclusively focused on re-electing Brown

    This is the commercial featuring the former Republican Ohio Supreme Court justice who backs Issue 1 calling out the lies (funded by the Haslams!) and Frank LaRose- it features her party affiliation prominently to reverse-judo No voters into voting Yes

    Yes on 1 has been running commercials since late September (https://signalcleveland.org/ohio-issue-1-backers-to-air-first-television-ads-elections-2024/). Their first was an ad likening gerrymandering to Jim Harbaugh. The second was a light-hearted one featuring a Dem, Repub, and independent (they're all just actors), explaining why Issue 1 should pass from their points of view. The newest one is the one you saw with Marueen O'Connor.

    The Dem party has been handling the coordinated campaign + Sherrod. Plus, for the smaller campaigns and other staff, they handle HR and benefits.

  • TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    On, quite frankly, depressing news, Buzz Aldrin endorses Trump.

    Like a Star Fleet officer being absorbed by the Borg. That just sucks, for many, many reasons, including that Trump world is on "moon landings were faked" conspiracy lunacy.

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    On, quite frankly, depressing news, Buzz Aldrin endorses Trump.

    Like a Star Fleet officer being absorbed by the Borg. That just sucks, for many, many reasons, including that Trump world is on "moon landings were faked" conspiracy lunacy.

    Not surprising from someone who thought assault was a valid response to dipshits.

  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    edited October 30
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    On, quite frankly, depressing news, Buzz Aldrin endorses Trump.

    Like a Star Fleet officer being absorbed by the Borg. That just sucks, for many, many reasons, including that Trump world is on "moon landings were faked" conspiracy lunacy.

    Not surprising from someone who thought assault was a valid response to dipshits.

    He was right to punch that person harassing him. Just because he's wrong now, doesn't mean he was wrong then.

    Magell on
  • GilgaronGilgaron Registered User regular
    I looked it up and Buzz is 94, that was probably written by some caretaker/grifter.

  • RazielMortemRazielMortem Registered User regular
    "Buzz Aldrin sold his soul??" - Winchesters
    "How do you think a man named Buzz got to the Moon" - Crowley

    I guess Supernatural was right. Idiot.

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Gilgaron wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Hey so I just saw my first commercial for Yes on Issue 1 today, after an estimated 1/3 of Ohio ballots have been cast, great job everyone

    Also the top donor to the PAC responsible for the “vote No to ban gerrymandering” shit everywhere is Jimmy and Dee Haslam (iykyk)

    Ohio Democrats have been absolutely fucking up. I have received exactly zero mailers this entire election cycle. My wife has picked up both D and R stuff.

    I just got some about the Ohio Supreme Court seats, I get so many every day from the GOP on the other hand. One thing no one has sent around this time so far is one of the party slate cards which seems odd.

    I got one of these when I went to early vote here in Montgomery County. They were setup outside of the building.

  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    Saw a screenshot from Twitter, gonna paraphrase it:

    MAGA: "Fuck Joe Biden!"
    Biden: "Fuck you too!"
    MAGA: "Why is Biden so mean to us?"

  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/30/texas-woman-death-abortion-ban-miscarriage
    Texas woman died after being denied miscarriage care due to abortion ban, report finds

    Josseli Barnica died days state passed six-week abortion ban and doctors delayed treatment, ProPublica reports
    Carter Sherman
    Wed 30 Oct 2024 13.17 EDT

    Just days after Texas banned abortion past six weeks of pregnancy, a woman died after doctors in the state delayed treating her miscarriage for 40 hours, ProPublica reported on Wednesday.

    Experts told ProPublica that the September 2021 death of Josseli Barnica, a 28-year-old mother, was “preventable”. Barnica the third woman reported by ProPublica to have died in recent years after being unable to access abortion legally or having her medical care delayed.

    Isn't only three by now, for sure, but this example is particularly egregious.

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