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cursedking · November 22

Terrier wrote: »

also that in Vanity Fair article that got published yesterday featuring her and her story, the author basically tried their best McCarthy impression? But it sucked really bad and probably is the worst time to fanboy out, when writing about how the author in question was essentially a groomer?

Yeah I started reading it and had to stop about halfway through. It was extremely tediously written and kept weirdly regarding her as this like mythic figure instead of a person who dealt with abuse her whole life and found refuge with a different type of abuser.

Tef · November 22

ManOHokuto wrote: »

milski wrote: »

I think Tube's distaste for doing requested self-bans was also part of his general pushback against people utilizing the forums as a mental health resource or offloading their mental health to the moderation/forum staff. From his perspective, having forum staff be responsible for the mental health of others via on-call ban requests was not a responsibility he wanted to have or to push on others.

He was wrong. Asking for a self-ban is taking responsibility for your own mental health by recognizing when you need to be separated but something but are currently lacking the self-control necessary to do it and stick to it.

Yeah that attitude really smacks of someone who either never been addicted to anything, nor been close to an addict, in their life

Anon the Felon · November 22

For a person who ran the show for a long while, every time Tube comes to there's a bunch of people who have a bummer story.

I had a couple interactions with them that are what I attribute to my turning into mostly a lurker.

Romanian My Escutcheon · November 22

Just speaking to my own experience, Tube and I got along fine after I started realizing that being the guy perpetually yelling "Debate me!!!" online and getting into stupid word slap fights isn't the same as having a personality, and it was always nice catching up at PAX.

But all that said, in hindsight it's pretty clear he never got out of the mindset of treating us all like it was still 2004 and there were a bunch of people posting who needed some pretty caustic treatment to respond to moderator instructions.

Which... IDK, I ain't done admin work or community management work ever, so I don't think I've got license or knowledge to criticize or analyze the guy's admin tenure in any real depth?

But given where we're at now, I think it's safe to say some of his more toxic admin policies have come back to bite us in the collective ass.

Romanian My Escutcheon · November 22

Also, I still don't know anything about Morrissey 15 years later mostly because Tube talking shit poisoned that well, so y'all will have to tell me if he did me a favor.

Grey Ghost · November 22

Yeah no you're good on Morrissey

Weaver · November 22

re: Tube, it's funny how I never knew who Fightstar were during his "no disparaging fightstar" phase, and now I'm a huge Gunship fan.

Paladin · November 22

The elephant in the room of likening social media to an addictive habit is "what kind of addiction is it ok to eventually come back to?" So I can kind of understand being less willing to admit that you're a peddler of something like that and that your product should be treated in such a way

Local H Jay · November 22

Paladin wrote: »

The elephant in the room of likening social media to an addictive habit is "what kind of addiction is it ok to eventually come back to?" So I can kind of understand being less willing to admit that you're a peddler of something like that and that your product should be treated in such a way

I mean, food addiction is a thing, and you have to eat eventually. You can be addicted to perfectly normal things. There's also stuff like compulsive disorders where it's not so much as easy as "just stop."

I'm fine now, well, "fine-er" than before when it comes to my mental health and relationships to my online spaces. If tomorrow I feel I need a break, I'll take one. Before I was under extreme mental duress and not making good choices. Giving people the grace to recover is a sign of a mature person imo

Zonugal · November 22

I can recall a point, I think it was under Geebs' reign, that he instituted a soft ban on folks trying to process their challenges with addiction on the forums?

And I remember thinking, as someone who had recently began my voyage into sobriety, that ruling was so incredibly rude and dismissive to the members of this third-space who wanted to express likely the biggest change in their life.

Paladin · November 22

Local H Jay wrote: »

Paladin wrote: »

The elephant in the room of likening social media to an addictive habit is "what kind of addiction is it ok to eventually come back to?" So I can kind of understand being less willing to admit that you're a peddler of something like that and that your product should be treated in such a way

I mean, food addiction is a thing, and you have to eat eventually. You can be addicted to perfectly normal things. There's also stuff like compulsive disorders where it's not so much as easy as "just stop."

I'm fine now, well, "fine-er" than before when it comes to my mental health and relationships to my online spaces. If tomorrow I feel I need a break, I'll take one. Before I was under extreme mental duress and not making good choices. Giving people the grace to recover is a sign of a mature person imo

I thought about the food addiction thing before, but you can't really just be temp banned from food healthily - you cut down and focus on the true nature of the addiction, which is something beyond food. Removing the food and bringing it back without fixing that underlying issue invites relapse.
For addictive substances that you can live without, cutting down is inferior to cutting out. Even when people fix the elements of their lives that led to this addiction, they do not return to it, because it is by nature a destructive habit.

Anon the Felon · November 22

Attempting kindness and understanding, being willing to admit your own ignorance... These things cost nothing but are often perceived as weakness by the foolish.

And I pity those fools, their way seems fraught and honestly more difficult.

Local H Jay · November 22

Paladin wrote: »

Local H Jay wrote: »

Paladin wrote: »

The elephant in the room of likening social media to an addictive habit is "what kind of addiction is it ok to eventually come back to?" So I can kind of understand being less willing to admit that you're a peddler of something like that and that your product should be treated in such a way

I mean, food addiction is a thing, and you have to eat eventually. You can be addicted to perfectly normal things. There's also stuff like compulsive disorders where it's not so much as easy as "just stop."

I'm fine now, well, "fine-er" than before when it comes to my mental health and relationships to my online spaces. If tomorrow I feel I need a break, I'll take one. Before I was under extreme mental duress and not making good choices. Giving people the grace to recover is a sign of a mature person imo

I thought about the food addiction thing before, but you can't really just be temp banned from food healthily - you cut down and focus on the true nature of the addiction, which is something beyond food. Removing the food and bringing it back without fixing that underlying issue invites relapse.
For addictive substances that you can live without, cutting down is inferior to cutting out. Even when people fix the elements of their lives that led to this addiction, they do not return to it, because it is by nature a destructive habit.

Paladin I almost certain you don't mean anything rude by explaining these things to me but I must make you aware that I am clean and sober off hard drugs and alcohol and have done extensive work on myself to get to this point. If you think I don't understand the nuanced of tackling and setting aside addictions or I guess, think I needed these very obvious things said to me, I need you to think harder before you type and respond to posts like this next time

Mostly to be considerate of the persons you're talking to, but also because that last point "cutting out is better than cutting down" boy buddy howdy tell me you don't have addiction struggles without telling me

Javen · November 22

As far as I know he was okay with perma-bans by request, just not temp ones.

Which to me honestly makes sense if the talk about being addicted to forums should be treated the same as like, being addicted to a harmful substance like is being talked about. If someone is so helpless that they can’t moderate themselves, they’re not really to be trusted when they come back later and say ‘no no I’m good now, this time I can keep it straight’

Paladin · November 22

Local H Jay wrote: »

Paladin wrote: »

Local H Jay wrote: »

Paladin wrote: »

The elephant in the room of likening social media to an addictive habit is "what kind of addiction is it ok to eventually come back to?" So I can kind of understand being less willing to admit that you're a peddler of something like that and that your product should be treated in such a way

I mean, food addiction is a thing, and you have to eat eventually. You can be addicted to perfectly normal things. There's also stuff like compulsive disorders where it's not so much as easy as "just stop."

I'm fine now, well, "fine-er" than before when it comes to my mental health and relationships to my online spaces. If tomorrow I feel I need a break, I'll take one. Before I was under extreme mental duress and not making good choices. Giving people the grace to recover is a sign of a mature person imo

I thought about the food addiction thing before, but you can't really just be temp banned from food healthily - you cut down and focus on the true nature of the addiction, which is something beyond food. Removing the food and bringing it back without fixing that underlying issue invites relapse.
For addictive substances that you can live without, cutting down is inferior to cutting out. Even when people fix the elements of their lives that led to this addiction, they do not return to it, because it is by nature a destructive habit.

Paladin I almost certain you don't mean anything rude by explaining these things to me but I must make you aware that I am clean and sober off hard drugs and alcohol and have done extensive work on myself to get to this point. If you think I don't understand the nuanced of tackling and setting aside addictions or I guess, think I needed these very obvious things said to me, I need you to think harder before you type and respond to posts like this next time

Mostly to be considerate of the persons you're talking to, but also because that last point "cutting out is better than cutting down" boy buddy howdy tell me you don't have addiction struggles without telling me

Thank you for reminding me - I was there in the thread when you talked about it, and it should have been on the forefront of my mind. I was pondering what CT or any community manger must think as an administrator of something potentially toxic.

Local H Jay · November 22

Javen wrote: »

As far as I know he was okay with perma-bans by request, just not temp ones.

Which to me honestly makes sense if the talk about being addicted to forums should be treated the same as like, being addicted to a harmful substance like is being talked about. If someone is so helpless that they can’t moderate themselves, they’re not really to be trusted when they come back later and say ‘no no I’m good now, this time I can keep it straight’

I asked for both and was denied both

BahamutZERO · November 22

Not wanting to let people self-reqiest bans for mental health feels a lot like refusing to help a recovering alcoholic remove easy access to drinks from their life

"Just choose to stop" it doesn't work like that man

Local H Jay · November 22

I also wanna point out that I wanted a temp ban, and accepted a full ban as a compromise. Or well, I assume a compromise, as there was no further conversation about my ban, the length or a possible return

Havelock2.0 · November 22

Zonugal wrote: »

I can recall a point, I think it was under Geebs' reign, that he instituted a soft ban on folks trying to process their challenges with addiction on the forums?

And I remember thinking, as someone who had recently began my voyage into sobriety, that ruling was so incredibly rude and dismissive to the members of this third-space who wanted to express likely the biggest change in their life.

I must have missed that bit but yeah that’s pretty stupid

I’ve been pretty open about my own journey in chat over the last six years so that’s a surprise

Darmak · November 22

That response reminds me about the time aaaaaages ago when I was like, I dunno maybe 19, when I first found out Ben Shapiro (or maybe it was some other rightwing chud) had some forums attached to their website. I signed up and immediately flooded the place with Goatse and then never returned. It was childish of me but I don't regret doing it

Knight_ · November 22

the only net good to ever happen on the ben shapiro forums

MrMonroe · November 22

For folks who want to durably lock themselves out of any website for a defined time period, (say you need to get off facebook for a while or something) you can also use a password generator to create a strong password, change your login without saving the new one, and then email that password to yourself on some scheduled future date.

Jragghen · November 22

Bluesky just got a new major endorsement

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Maddoc · November 22

Sounds like right wing psychopaths have mostly been making the move to bluesky as well since the people they exist to harass have been moving over there in larger numbers.

Right wingers can only exist in relation to their ideological enemies.

Jragghen · November 23

Maddoc wrote: »

Sounds like right wing psychopaths have mostly been making the move to bluesky as well since the people they exist to harass have been moving over there in larger numbers.

Right wingers can only exist in relation to their ideological enemies.

And then immediately complaining on the block culture, and also not showing up in peoples' feeds because they're not signal boosted by the owner.

That being said, REGARDLESS, stuff like this is fucking great:

Romanian My Escutcheon · November 23

Darmak wrote: »

That response reminds me about the time aaaaaages ago when I was like, I dunno maybe 19, when I first found out Ben Shapiro (or maybe it was some other rightwing chud) had some forums attached to their website. I signed up and immediately flooded the place with Goatse and then never returned. It was childish of me but I don't regret doing it

Why? I'm pretty sure by making graphic design your passion, you made their website at least 5000 percent more visually appealing.

Undead Scottsman · November 23

Jragghen wrote: »

Bluesky just got a new major endorsement

What the fuck is "Bluek*y"?

Did Nate typo while trying to censor the word for some reason.

FCD · November 23

God, Nate is such a worthless turd.

Speed Racer · November 23

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

Jragghen wrote: »

Bluesky just got a new major endorsement

What the fuck is "Bluek*y"?

Did Nate typo while trying to censor the word for some reason.

yeah

it is widely believed that tweets with the word bluesky get suppressed by the X: The Anything App algorithm

i don't know if that's true or not because on one hand elon's a petty little shit and he would totally do that but on the other hand people on twitter love nothing more than jumping at shadows so who can say

Commander Zoom · November 23

Maddoc wrote: »

Sounds like right wing psychopaths have mostly been making the move to bluesky as well since the people they exist to harass have been moving over there in larger numbers.

Right wingers can only exist in relation to their ideological enemies.

Once again reminded of the bit in Snow Crash where our protagonist runs into a bunch of rednecks who inform him the only flaw in their "perfect" little community is that there's no [slur]s there to beat up, so sometimes they have to leave it to do that.

Speed Racer · November 23

a lot of right-wing social media sites have been tried and don't really work out because they don't have anyone to harrass

pretty sure truth social only kind of sort of has any traction because it's where trump posts

Undead Scottsman · November 23

We need some cute animals in here and I don't want to hog Lanz's shtick, so it's Capybara Friday.

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In case you didn't know, Capy's are the largest rodents in the world, native to South American, weighing between 80 and 150 pounds. They're like big, semi-aquatic Guinea Pigs and are like the chilliest animal on Earth.

"Orange on head" is a weirdly recurring theme with Capy pictures.

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Capy's give zero fucks.

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Absolutely zero fucks.

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God they're too cute when they're tiny.

BIG YAWN!

Fig-D · November 23

The citrus in the water with the capybaras is a yuzu. It's believed to have all sorts of restorative properties. I think a zoo was the first to introduce it to capybaras as a treat in the winter and now it's become somewhat synonymous with them in Japan. You can search "capybara yuzu onsen" in Google and come back with all sorts of results (and a bunch of trash AI images because nothing is sacred).

Undead Scottsman · November 23

Yeah, I definitely had some moments of "I think this image is AI generated" while trying to find some pictures.

Jars · November 23

youtube tried to recommend me a video of a jaguar killing a capybara today. I don't know why

Jragghen · November 23

Smh not calling them guinea bigs

astrobstrd · November 23

Edit: Wrong thread!

Brolo · November 23

The vice-president of the Philippines said she instructed an assassin to kill the president if she were killed.

In a dramatic sign of a widening rift between the two most powerful political families in the Southeast Asian nation, Vice-President Sara Duterte told press conference that she had spoken to an assassin and instructed him to kill President Ferdinand Marcos Jr, his wife and the Speaker of the Philippine House if she were to be killed.

“I have talked to a person. I said, if I get killed, go kill BBM (Marcos), (first lady) Liza Araneta, and (Speaker) Martin Romualdez. No joke. No joke,” Duterte said in the profanity-laden briefing. “I said, do not stop until you kill them, and then he said yes.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/10885149/philippine-vp-assassin-president/amp/

Brolo · November 23

I know the Duerte dynasty has been really bad for a long time now, but man it seems like this situation is accelerating to the point where I'm not sure it can be de-escalated.

milski · November 23

On a similar note, the current president and federal police of Brazil are alleging that Bosonaro and his staff had an assassination plot against them, so we're really having a lot of fun destabilization and assassination plans come to light lately.

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