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Ape2001 · August 2006

Hiho, I'm not really new to the PA forums but it's probably pretty good that old threads and user accounts from b.C. hit the bin from time to time...

Enough of old times filled with dawdling. I'm 21 now and still confused about what way I should choose. That's why I thought it's worth a try to visit the PA forums again to talk to other artists that maybe faced, or still face, the same obstacle.

I think I just start with a link to my ConceptArt-Sketchbook and two pics I'm working on at the moment.

I'm pretty much looking forward to the colouring, my stuff almost always becomes a lot better after that

earthwormadam · August 2006

If that is supposed to be the scene from The Thing, that guy looks a bit too happy to have just gotten his arms bit off.

Second one is better, and the perspective looks pretty good, but off in a few areas. I'm not too good at perspective so I'm not really sure whats off about it...

Haxagor · August 2006

the perspective is a bit wacko jacko because the vanishing point isnt consistent

Asamof the Horrible · August 2006

The guy in the second picture looks like Bill Cosby. And his hand is totally wonky

galen · August 2006

Trust me when I say there's absolutely no need for you to watermark your images.

Anyway, the "happy guy" in the thing image...it looks like he has no lips. Now I get that he's screaming cos he just lost his hands and all, but the lips don't "go away" when you scream. Search for "screaming man" on google for some reference.

Also, your hands need a lot of work. I know they're hard, just practice more. Every single hand you drew in these two pieces is just awful.

In addition, perspective issues, etc.

Oh and one more thing: Colors cannot and will not save a bad piece of art, they just turn it into a bad piece of art with color.

Ape2001 · August 2006

At first: thanks a lot for leaving comments in your free time

I'm going to keep these pics as an example for my impatience -_- I know I can do better...
Removed the watermark for it was a silly idea from a silly moment.
Missed facial expressions, wrong hands, broken vanishing points, cut lips (and maybe Bill Cosby, too) would probably not occur if I wouldn't want everything finished in an hour (yeah, that's still slow compared to others).

This is from the last days, too. Would be nice to hear your critics.

If anyone's interested in what my sig is about: Funny Call of Cthulhu

Grifter · August 2006

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823015777/sr=8-1/qid=1154709229/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-2104203-7541511?ie=UTF8

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823015874/sr=8-4/qid=1154709229/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-2104203-7541511?ie=UTF8

Ape2001 · August 2006

I just got pham!ed, I think :shock: So, back to the bookshelf.

I'll be black...eh, back.

wakkawa · August 2006

You definetely need more varients in your lines. Having only one ink line size makes things really, really flat and lifeless.

Ape2001 · August 2006

"A very scary solstice" What do you think?
[edit] It's a sketch, that's why it looks badly scanned ^^'[/edit]

Got this idea while listening to the also named compilation from the H.P. Lovecraft Historical Society

Grifter · August 2006

Cute and definitely better than your inked works. However, you need to learn to scan your work better and....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823005674/103-2932477-7479856?redirect=true

Lexxy · August 2006

BENNINGTON, why is there no Makeout Robot in this thread?!

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Everyone's advice has been pretty solid so far, and I don't really have much else to contribute. Even though the perspective is really wonky in that second piece in your first post, I kinna like the detailwork. The bit of rope in the foreground is my favorite.

Also, Christmas with Cthulu? XD I like how the houses across the street are on fire. The little baby fishy things are kind of meh, though... Their proportions are inconsistant and I'm not feelin' the cartoony crazy-eyes-of-two-different-sizes thing, but maybe that's just me.

Keep practicing, keep posting

Ape2001 · August 2006

Grifter, I added a little note ^^' It's just a sketch, even on paper with text on it's back. Would you still say I have to improve scanning when looking at the ones above?
More/better perspective, k. I kind of forebode that.

Lexxy, glad you like the details. Have to be more patient when drawing, especially perspective. I'll use a ruler next time. Have to calm down the next time when images come to my mind caused by music.
Hm, the kids. Should google up some non-deep ones and try to adapt.

Working on a logo for some guys. Roaring lion with rasta hair (just found out that it should roar)

study1 study2

And the requested "Make-out-bot", invented by Spex.

Ape2001 · August 2006

Upcoming champion of Chaos, wip.

Any opinions :? ?

Kuro Hou · August 2006

I like the christmas with c'thulu, as an idea. Though I'd think that he'd have a better x-mas tree. Perhaps human head ornaments and whatnot.

Yeah, I know, Christian is probably the last thing you could categorize C'thulu as, but I doubt that he'd go about it all half assed.

The little ones have the messed up eyes as noted before, but I didn't think those things came in cute/tiny.

Ape2001 · August 2006

proceeding

Hm, thanks for your time Kuro... I have some new arrangements for that theme in my head. Better do some sketches.
What belongs to the atmosphere of the pic is that I'd like to focus on a more subtle kind of horror (the burning houses) and a strange kind of happiness for the foreground.
Skulls, human skulls, hm that would be good presents for the children ^^'

Kuro Hou · August 2006

Your soldier is way out of proportion, but he still has the laws of proportion on his side. The nose should be the same length vertically from the center of the eyes to the tip as the length of the ears. Which you have done, but the ears are way too big. Or the eyes are way too small. Increasing their size and spacing them a little further apart might correct some of this.

The width of the mouth should be the same width as between the center of the eyes. This does change when a person smiles obviously, but one look at those chompers and you can see that the whole mouth is oversized. Maybe if you divided each visible tooth in half, they wouldn't seem so oversized.

The suit seems pretty cool.

Necronomicon · August 2006

Of course, I enjoy your Cthulhu piece, but I really cant add much more to what has already been said.

It's been mentioned that you need to work on your hands, but also your feet need a lot of work. I know feet are a fuckbitch to draw but practice makes perfect.

Keep, at it, I'd like to see some more of your stuff.

Ape2001 · August 2006

Did the mentioned changes except for the ears, I blame them on chaos period (or laziness, see it like you want to ^^').

Going to stop working on this, got no more patience

Yeah, I know that sounds limp but it appears more and more a waste of time to me.
Will turn to the Cthulhu-idea now, raises new hope ^^'

Ape2001 · September 2006

Were in Bavaria last week to visit King Ludwigs II castles. Pretty cool stuff, didn't think it would be that good. Sketched everyday:

01 - 02 - 03-1 - 03-2 - 04-1

04-2 - 05 - 06 - 07 - 08

09 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13

14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18

19 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 23

24 - 25

examples:

#01

#03-2

#10

Ape2001 · October 2006

Felt like updating my thread with some "new" stuff (despite some is old seen from today)...

Tried to paint this motiv but I didn't finish it because I felt so extremly slow when doing it.

the get-rid-of-100zombies-comic for the PA-AC-BT

more attempts to paint

made from this picture

Waiting-pose of my sprite-char of H.P.Lovecraft

cranked out answer to Antibodies' Tinswoodman attack on my PA-AC-BT-character

I hope I can pull myself together long enough to finish my sprite. That would be some nice success in long time. Project's proceeding pretty good:

Walk
Kick
KickHard
Punch
PunchHard
Crouch&Kicks
Crouch&Punchs
Jump
Jump&Kick/Punch/Block

NightDragon · October 2006

I think "jump" is meant to be more of just a plain "upward" jump...I've never before in my life seen a forward-hop as a legit move in a fighting game. Why would you ever need to do that?

Also, the kick...usually, people kick by bending their torso's sideways...

fight%202.jpg

Kicking just straight up like that doesn't make much sense. The way you're animating doesn't seem to have much "followthrough"...as in, every action your character is taking is done without the movement of the rest of his body. When people kick sideways, their body has to compensate for the weight change and balance out the body...that's one of the reasons why the torso ends up leaning towards the opposite side. When you animate a punch, usually there's some kind of "wind-up". They say that for every (or most) action(s) you animate, you should have a similar reaction in an opposite direction. For instance: whenever a character gets surprised, usually they scrunch down first (in one way or another), and that makes the "surprise jump" even more pronounced.

All in all, your character animations just seem rather "stiff".

Ape2001 · October 2006

Hm, you're probably right when it comes to the jump. Seems like I got carried away a bit. Fortunately it continues enough frames to make a simple jump out of it.

Important info: I wanted him to look stiff. Would you think this man could perform kicks like the above? I doubt that and I try to put this impression into the poses.

Pronouncing frames: You are probably right. Going to add some when finished with the basics. Atm 1st priority is to finish this stuff.

DeeLock · October 2006

Just have him deliver a direct kick to the nuts instead of the chest.

Ape2001 · December 2006

(btw, character's ready, zip-file:ready2play)

I'm doing another christmas drawing next to the secret santa thing here at the AC. It's going to be a picture of a friend fighting some Giger Aliens with a mini-gun. Sketches and resources:

I. my friend who's a big fan of the Alien movies

II. sketches of the developments for face, body and weapon

III. realized that I knew pretty little about the critters (when I started with the thing on the top left)

IV. first sketch for picture composition

What do you think, got some suggestions?

Inzigna · December 2006

Looking good so far.

Why don't you try drawing him in a dark room, facing like, a million of those buggers. Cliche, but fun.

Anyway, i really like how it's going so far. Liked how you did the alien head especially.

Typhus · December 2006

As far as I remember, It might be good to think of the Alien as more of a cat-like movement (i.e. more horizontal). In your pic it really looks like a bloke in an alien suit.

I'm almost certain that the tail was longer. It was one of the things that really scared me when I was younger. There are some images on GIS but I have not looked hard enough for a real good reference.

Ape2001 · December 2006

Hm, I will consider your thoughts ^^ Thanks for commenting.

That cat-like movement is pretty good point and that mass-of-buggers, too. Not easy but would definitely improve the atmosphere. Going to pause this at the moment to give my brain some other stuff to think about. After that it's maybe easier to continue ^^

Made up my mind about the weapon-design this morning:

It says: "too big, too heavy"
on the left and: "looks like a vacuum cleaner"
on the right.

Ape2001 · January 2007

The first two are studies for the on below. But somehow it looks like I fucked it up again

CatnipCat · January 2007

The perspective on the bottom one looks really messed up. It seems like he should be pointing the gun somewhere in the same direction that he is looking, if he plans on shooting it accurately. The handle doesn't seem to follow the same path as the front of the gun. I don't know if the where the barrels come out and the handle are parallel, but if they're supposed to be, they don't look it.

And, in my personal opinion, he's got some major jowl-age going on there. It looks to me like he's about 50 in that picture.

[edit] Wasn't this supposed to be a christmas drawing?

Ape2001 · January 2007

Yep, it was meant for christmas. There were several reasons for this to be late. It has still to be finished, so I won't disappoint him and myself.

So, you would say the sketch above looks better? I would agree...strange, why do I get the sketches more right than the pic which is supposed to be the result of the sketches? Probably I need a lot more approaches than expected.

[edit]Just thought about the aging again. That has probably several reasons, next to limited drawing abilities, for example that the jaw looks a lot bigger from below and the folds of anger in his face. And then there are these hanging cheeks ^^'''

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