So I bought A 32 GB Ipod Touch tonight. I get home and am fooling with it and I attempt to connect it to the Wireless, go through the steps it finds the network and it says it has signal strength but it isn't able to connect to the internet.
My Laptop also knows the wireless is there, it says there is a strong signal, but it won't connect to it either. I think this may strictly be my Ipods issue because my other laptop connects, and I may have been using the wrong password for the first laptop
Sorry, been fooling with the thing all night and was getting frustrated. Okay well after further Testing the other laptop in my house (screens busted so it's not in use) will connect to the network just fine.
However using the same information on my Ipod it will not connect, it picks up the signal however it won't let me use any of the web based applications.
My iPod touch has been wonky on networks before, but it's usually ones that require a log in screen. It works fine on my home network. Do you need a password? You don't have anything insane like WPA2 turned on, do you?
Nope WEP and I need a password can't figure out how to disable that. I went through and changed the password for it to make sure I was using the right one and it still won't connect.
That's strange. Maybe someone else with an iPod touch will come around that uses WEP. I don't want to throw my network into cardiac arrest or I would switch it to test.
So I bought A 32 GB Ipod Touch tonight. I get home and am fooling with it and I attempt to connect it to the Wireless, go through the steps it finds the network and it says it has signal strength but it isn't able to connect to the internet.
My Laptop also knows the wireless is there, it says there is a strong signal, but it won't connect to it either. I think this may strictly be my Ipods issue because my other laptop connects, and I may have been using the wrong password for the first laptop
Make sure your router is set to key 1 instead of key 2, key 3, or key 4. This was they key (hurr) to getting my Wii, iPhone, and DS online.
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DaveheadSitting at my computerRegistered Userregular
edited April 2008
It sounds like it might be something in your router. My brother has an iPod Touch and I have an iPhone - neither of us have any trouble connecting to our home wireless network and the Internet. I will also second the "use Key 1" advice. There are all kinds of devices out there that flat out refuse to use any key but #1. The Wii, for example. My laptop doesn't seem to care for any of the others either.
Have you tried doing a cold restart of your router? Unplug it, leave it for a bit, and plug it back in? That usually gets my router to start behaving itself again when it forgets what it's supposed to be doing.
I doesn't surprise me that the apple implementation of a wireless spec leaves certain things out so as not to confuse the customer. This is not a troll.
I doesn't surprise me that the apple implementation of a wireless spec leaves certain things out so as not to confuse the customer. This is not a troll.
Yeah, but it was.
It's also not a requirement of the spec, dick. I've had non-Apple routers that didn't allow for this either.
Calm down, Satan. You're the one who said suggested that a router WITH these options is some spawn of the devil.
And I didn't say it was a requirement of the spec, dick. I only called into question their implementation. If you hadn't noticed, I previously called into question Nintendo's implementation too. I too used had non-apple routers that didn't allow for multiple keys either, for the same reason I said-- to reduce customer confusion. I didn't even say it was a bad thing. I doesn't surprise me that ANY consumer router leaves out these features. This is not a troll. Sorry if I offended you. Dick.
I don't know dick about routers but here I am in this thread hurffing and durrfing and insulting those who know what they are talking about.
Like I said, sorry if I offended you. I wish the OP would get back to us and tell us he fixed it.
That's why I asked a fucking question. Should I start a new thread next time? I'll be sure to call everyone out that asks questions tangentially related to the thread form now on.
So first you're just making a joke, and now you're asking a question? The confusion is on my end. To answer your question I will refer to the Cisco Aironet access point documentation.
You can enter up to four WEP keys. The key that you select as the transmit key must also be entered in the same key slot on client devices that associate with the access point or bridge, but it does not have to be selected as the transmit key on the client devices.
There are four key slots, according to the spec. Most client devices (phones, DS, gaming consoles, printers) only bother to implement the first slot. A better solution would be to internally store the same key in each of the four slots, while still only requiring the user to enter a single key. The reason is because the key entered into any given slot on the router has to match the key in the same slot on the client. The problem is that because the client devices only respond to transmissions made with key 1, using any other key on the router results in the client device going "wtf?"
It goes down like this:
Router: "yo laptop, what you got for key 1?"
Laptop: "yo router, I got xyzqr for key 1."
Router: "dig it baby. What you got for key 2?"
Laptop: "shit daddy-o, you know I got abcdef!"
Router: "you are so far out, solid, and right on"
Router: "yo iPhone, what you got for key 1"
iPhone: "Hello router, I am pleased to report xyzqr for key slot 1."
Router: "dig it, cat. Let's switch it up and use key 2, what do you got for key 2, baby?"
iPhone: ".............."
Router: "key 3? Come on, I know you can dig this."
iPhone: "........."
Since consumers are the ones with these unhip devices, manufacturers of consumer routers elect to only deal with key 1, to avoid these awkward conversations between devices. Apple is one such manufacturer. The "spawn of you" routers that others are dealing with are probably just a little higher end, like pro-sumer routers or some shit. I've personally never owned a router without all four key slots, but I haven't used any brand new routers lately. I'd say electing to make things easier is good for the industry, which is why I am unsurprised you can't find the option on your Airport. I know (and love) that Apple is great at making things easier, which is why I was unsurprised.
I hope I helped. And no, I don't think you should make a new thread when you have a question. I do think you could benefit by 1.) not calling me a liar, and 2.) not being a rude piece of shit. Questions are good, combat is not.
So I reset the router and put it in Key 1 (as far as I know I did) and it still is not working. I personally think there is a good chance that I didn't put it in the right key or anything like that considering I have never fooled with my wireless before and am not the most tech savvy person out there. I followed a guide when doing it but I will go back tonight and do it again to see if I skipped a step.
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Also, might want to take a little bit of time and proof your posts. That's difficult to understand.
However using the same information on my Ipod it will not connect, it picks up the signal however it won't let me use any of the web based applications.
Make sure your router is set to key 1 instead of key 2, key 3, or key 4. This was they key (hurr) to getting my Wii, iPhone, and DS online.
Have you tried doing a cold restart of your router? Unplug it, leave it for a bit, and plug it back in? That usually gets my router to start behaving itself again when it forgets what it's supposed to be doing.
Or: am I missing a setting on my AirPort Extreme somewhere?
Yeah, but it was.
It's also not a requirement of the spec, dick. I've had non-Apple routers that didn't allow for this either.
And I didn't say it was a requirement of the spec, dick. I only called into question their implementation. If you hadn't noticed, I previously called into question Nintendo's implementation too. I too used had non-apple routers that didn't allow for multiple keys either, for the same reason I said-- to reduce customer confusion. I didn't even say it was a bad thing. I doesn't surprise me that ANY consumer router leaves out these features. This is not a troll. Sorry if I offended you. Dick.
Like I said, sorry if I offended you. I wish the OP would get back to us and tell us he fixed it.
Christ you're dense as fuck.
There are four key slots, according to the spec. Most client devices (phones, DS, gaming consoles, printers) only bother to implement the first slot. A better solution would be to internally store the same key in each of the four slots, while still only requiring the user to enter a single key. The reason is because the key entered into any given slot on the router has to match the key in the same slot on the client. The problem is that because the client devices only respond to transmissions made with key 1, using any other key on the router results in the client device going "wtf?"
It goes down like this:
Router: "yo laptop, what you got for key 1?"
Laptop: "yo router, I got xyzqr for key 1."
Router: "dig it baby. What you got for key 2?"
Laptop: "shit daddy-o, you know I got abcdef!"
Router: "you are so far out, solid, and right on"
Router: "yo iPhone, what you got for key 1"
iPhone: "Hello router, I am pleased to report xyzqr for key slot 1."
Router: "dig it, cat. Let's switch it up and use key 2, what do you got for key 2, baby?"
iPhone: ".............."
Router: "key 3? Come on, I know you can dig this."
iPhone: "........."
Since consumers are the ones with these unhip devices, manufacturers of consumer routers elect to only deal with key 1, to avoid these awkward conversations between devices. Apple is one such manufacturer. The "spawn of you" routers that others are dealing with are probably just a little higher end, like pro-sumer routers or some shit. I've personally never owned a router without all four key slots, but I haven't used any brand new routers lately. I'd say electing to make things easier is good for the industry, which is why I am unsurprised you can't find the option on your Airport. I know (and love) that Apple is great at making things easier, which is why I was unsurprised.
I hope I helped. And no, I don't think you should make a new thread when you have a question. I do think you could benefit by 1.) not calling me a liar, and 2.) not being a rude piece of shit. Questions are good, combat is not.
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See, look how amazingly simple that was to begin with.