D&D, this is a post to talk about Vince Young, potentially the greatest winner I've ever seen in my life, and he's only a rookie.
This is a picture of Vince Young with his current team the Tennessee Titans:
This is a picture of Vince Young in college, with the University of Texas Longhorns, as he runs to the endzone to snap USC's 3+ season long winning streak in the National Championship game late in the 4th quarter, wearing the same soon-to-be-ubiquitous-with-winning #10:
Here is a wiki on Vince Young. They appear to not have appreciated my attempts to pare the entry down to one word, "Winner."
The performance by Vince Young in the Rose Bowl last season remains the single greatest individual performance I've ever witnessed on a football field, and nothing appears to have changed. He's doing it again in the pros, with a run-down, raggedy, sorry Tennessee Titans franchise -- single-handedly willing them to win whenever the game is on the line. I'm going to soon be petitioning the OED to include an entry under "winner" which says Vince Young.
So anyway D&D -- do you know of any other winners, and do you seriously think they're as amazing as Vince Young? Because I don't think they are.
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On a related note: What the fuck is wrong with Buffalo? Did their kicker pull a muscle or something? Because that was an incredibly stupid decision.
I'll put Jordan as a tentative 1a at this point though. No, fuck that -- #2, with Bill Russell being #1a.
As a marginal USC fan I'm not inclined to like Vince much. Time will tell if he makes it ni the pros. I'm also pleasantly surprised by Reggie and the Saints this year.
TIME WILL TELL??!??!??
Are you HIGH? Do you WATCH football? Do you UNDERSTAND what the point is? The point is to WIN games, and Vince Young has DONE that for a MORIBUND franchise. The 4th quarter comes, and VY does what is NECESSARY so that when the clock expires the scoreboard reads a higher score for his team's than for his opponent's. Anybody who can't see that Vince Young is (1) insanely talented, (2) already one of the best QBs in the NFL, and (3) so over-full with WINNING then you are just insane.
I hope they're kicking themselves now.
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Self-groin punching might be a better move.
I am only a casual football fan, so I suppose the next big winner I'm a fan of is Sidney Crosby in the NHL. He's picking up the"Next One" torch that so many others have burned themselves with (this means you Lindros!). I imagine this is pretty much a football only thread, so I wont go on too much.
Way to make me feel the pain. God I love being a Houston sports fan. Yeah, that's right, Bob McNair, stick with that fucking HEB surfer boy retard.
Sure Carr looks good in the parking lot, but you get him on the streets, and fuck, Carr Crash time.
I loved it when Young wrecked the Texans. Fuck that franchise for betraying its native son. I'm not watching their fucking games any more until they find a less douchey owner. It all starts with them. He would have only drafted Young if he'd agreed to be his caddy. Fuck that noise, VY is here to stay, and he is here to play.
Dude reminds me of my personal favorite still playing, Steve McNair. Tough as fucking nails. Dogged for maybe not being all there in the brains department, but they have the courage of a fucking lion and you have to drag their battered corpse off the field.
These dudes also evolve. McNair did that cool shit that Vince does prior to Hurking Daunte Culpepper giving Brothah QBs a bad rep.
Who gives a fuck if he's not as fast as Vick? Who'd you rather try to tackle? Herpes infested no ball handled skills fairy Ron Mexico, or a dude that runs so straight and high up that he fucking dares you to try and hit him.
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(okay maybe on review Bill Russell is better than Vince, but that is all I will admit)
I haven't been able to see too much of Sidney Crosby, but based on what I have seen (1) Alexander Ovechkin is a better player, and (2) there's been plenty of players at his talent level in the NHL over the years. He has no place whatsoever in the discussion of true greats -- right now he's in league with Kariya's or Selanne's (although actually below Selanne's league) and WAY below the Messier's and Lindros' and Kurri's or Coffey's or Yzerman's or whatever. He's good, but I'm not sold on him whatsoever. Joe Thornton or Jaromir Jagr or Chris Pronger are better players playing right now from what I know.
Nolan motherfucking Ryan.
Fuck you Clemens. You might have been a better pitcher, but I've seen you run and hide behind your catcher's coattails. I've seen you flick shards of a bat at a dude like the backstabbing cowfucker you are. I know you, you chickenshit bully. I hope you get shanked in some backwards Boston alley.
I'm telling you, if VY hadn't hurt his ankle on the play prior, he would have kicked that 60-yarder to beat bitch-ass Peyton Manning himself.
I don't know enough about Nolan Ryan to really comment, except that clearly he's better than Roger "Horse Pills" Clemens.
Ovechkin is more dynamic, to be sure, but overall, Crosby will have the longer, more sucsessful career. He's got better talent to play with in Pittsburgh, or Kansas, or wherever the fuck the Penguins end up. But, I've seen Ovechkin before. He's Pavel Bure 2.0 and I forsee blown up knees in Alexander the Great's future. On the otherhand, that Penguins team has multiple Cups written all over it.
Crosby is leading the NHL in scoring at the age of 19. He's five points up on Jagr, but he's played six less games. He's also a +18, while Ovechkin, despite being fourth in scoring, is only an even. That means there are a lot more goals scored against Ove's team while he's on the ice than are scored on Crosby's, or Jagrs teams.
Crosby's definetly more of a future winner than a current winner now. Comparing d-men to forwards is hard, and Pronger is certainly the best d-man in the league right now. Its a tricksy comparison though.
The thing that slowed Bure down was the clutch and grab NHL, not his knees.
Otherwise -- I dunno, Washington is sort of a dead in the water franchise, so I don't know how far Ovechkin will get with them. Crosby seems to be in a place where they embraced the youth movement BEFORE he got there, so he's in PRIME real estate. We'll see -- I'll have to watch him more, but right now I say Ovechking is THAT DUDE.
At like 42/44, he's pitching for the Lone Star Rangers against the Drrrty Sox. Baby face Ventura is at the plate. Nolan Ryan clips him, and stupid fucking Ventura, with more shit in his brains than in his bowels, decides to charge the mound.
Background on the Nolan Express. The man is a cowboy. Like not those gaymos with starz on their heads up in Dallas, but a real true cowboy. His idea of a great weekend is to find the biggest bull around and just MMA it into the dust. LOVES IT!
Well, when Ryan saw this retard charging the mound, he sighed, rolled his eyes took off his glove and stepped forward.
Ventura was in a rocksolid headlock before he could even touch him and Ryan started just whaling on him with his pitching hand. Yeah, he kept pitching after the finished serving up Ventura burgers in the stands.
All out there on the field, having fun, some might say like a kid. They don't care where they heave that ball, as long as it looks like the most reckless fucking gunsling ever.
And really, gunslinger is an insulting term. Favre is the kind of dude that would shoot his own dick off as soon as he put his hand on his piece.
I kept telling my dad that this will be the single greatest perforamance I will ever see in my life.
alllll signs point to no
Vince Young wouldn't have fucked up the bbcode
But damn, Vince Young is really killing them out there. This is just more evidence that Houston is a city full of idiots that I was glad to get out of in August. I do miss the 99 Cent Only stores, though.
Rivers might ride LT and the Juiced Boy to the big show, but he won't be the one to propel his team. This is about winners, not overrated-hangers-on.
Rivers? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? You disgust me.
He's got endzone magnets. He just gets pulled to it.
Truth. The Titan's #1 receiver is a former UCLA QB. A slow, soft-ass QB, who can never take a hit.
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Big news: this year, it snowed even more than usual.
That guy was pretty good at winning, is the point.
Edit: It was Aleksander Karelin, and it was only 13 years.
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Tom Brady is 10-1 in the playoffs.
Tom Brady is 3-0 in Super Bowl games.
Tom Brady Tom Brady Tom Brady.
Also, VY = 1-0 in National Championship games. How's Brady in those Bowls?
low blow
Olympic gold medal.
Two NCAA championships.
11 NBA championships.
Can anyone compete with that?
This is why he doesn't deserve to be called the greatest winner of all time. Not even close. He hasn't proven himself yet.
Yeah, he's great. But Big Ben blew the league away when he came in as a rookie also, won a bunch of games in a row and all that. The more Vince plays, the more teams can game plan for him.
THAT's when he'll be able to prove himself. You guys are getting way ahead of yourselves.
Well now we all know where you stand once judgment comes, Mr. Hoge.