Hahaha. Is that the same guy that did the BARACKY vid?
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clownfoodpacket pusherin the wallsRegistered Userregular
edited May 2008
Not sure how many other Oregonians switched parties to vote in the upcoming primary (I switched from Independent to Dem) but here is a story that people should be aware of.
Thousands of Oregon voters are about to get two ballots in the mail and if they pick the wrong one, their votes won't count.
The problem affects people who switched parties just before the registration deadline.
County elections officials had already sent voter rolls to the printers, so those ballots will go out in the mail with the voters' previous party.
Later, voters will get the ballot from the correct party.
According to the Oregon Secretary of State's Office, it's alright if voters fill out both ballots since the state database will catch the mistake.
However, if voters send in only the out-of-date ballot, the votes in the partisan races will get tossed out
I know of about 3 or 4 people that just switched within a week of the April 29th deadline. I wonder if there is a way to distinguish between the out of date ballot and the valid one.
I just got my Oregon ballot in the mail today. It says very clearly in bold letters on the top Official Primary Nominating Ballot for the Democratic Party. I'd image the non-democratic ballot lacks that.
Also, I'd think you'd notice the lack of democratic candidates on the ballot. :P
I just got my Oregon ballot in the mail today. It says very clearly in bold letters on the top Official Primary Nominating Ballot for the Democratic Party. I'd image the non-democratic ballot lacks that.
Also, I'd think you'd notice the lack of democratic candidates on the ballot. :P
Have you always been registered as a Democrat? You have received a ballot such as this? This is my first Oregon Primary. In fact I have never voted in a primary for any of the 4 states I have lived since I reached voting age. I have no idea what to expect in the mail. It could just state "Official Ballot" and most people would consider it kosher.
There are going to be a large amount of first time voters and voting for either candidate and I would rather not have Oregon be made into the same laughing stock as Florida was a number years back.
On Tuesday, root for the Democrat whose vision of the political process comes closest to matching your own. And I do not want you to be swayed by the fact that Hillary and Barack are finally having a policy debate, and it’s about the dumbest idea in the campaign.
That's an excellent two sentence summary of this campaign.
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Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
And Bob Herbert, one of the two really good op-ed writers at the Times (with Kristof, not Kristol), has this to say (May I suggest to Elki or whoever to make this the OP?):
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is no doubt (and regrettably) a big issue in the presidential campaign. But what we’ve seen over the past week is major media overkill — Jeremiah Wright all day and all night. It’s like watching the clips of a car wreck again and again.
We’ve plotted the trend lines of his relationship with Barack Obama over the past two decades. What did Obama know and when did he know it? We’ve forced Barack and Michelle Obama, two decent, hard-working, law-abiding, family-oriented Americans, to sit for humiliating television interviews, reminiscent of Bill and Hillary Clinton on “60 Minutes” at the height of the Gennifer Flowers scandal.
We’ve allowed the entire political process in what is perhaps the most important election in the U.S. since World War II to become thoroughly warped by the histrionics of a loony preacher from the South Side of Chicago.
There’s something wrong with us.
Race is like pornography in the United States — the dirty stories and dirty pictures that everyone professes to hate but no one can resist. But I suspect that even porn addicts get their fill sometimes.
The challenge for the working press right now is to see if we can force ourselves past the overwhelming temptations of Wright and race and focus in a sustained way on some other important matters, like the cratering economy, metastasizing energy costs, the dismal state of public education, the nation’s crumbling infrastructure or the damage being done to the American soul by the endless war in Iraq.
A highly decorated Army ranger named David McDowell, a 30-year-old father of two from Ramona, Calif., was killed in Afghanistan this week. As I read his obituary, I noticed that he had been deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq seven times. What does that tell us about our shared wartime sacrifices?
I’d like to hear a lot less about Reverend Wright and a lot more about why the U.S. can’t close the deal in Afghanistan and hardly even seems interested in extricating our G.I.’s from Iraq.
Among the many other important issues overshadowed by the good reverend is a legitimate dispute between the presidential candidates over a proposed gasoline tax holiday, to run through the summer. Hillary Clinton and John McCain favor this dopey, irresponsible proposal, which would save individual motorists a grand total of $28, but which would result in $9 billion in lost tax revenues, much of it targeted for infrastructure needs.
(Senator Clinton says she would recoup the losses with a windfall profits tax on oil companies. Don’t hold your breath.)
No one with a serious understanding of the nation’s energy needs supports this foolishness. Senators Clinton and McCain have been assailed by editorial writers on the left and the right for pandering. Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York City was stinging in his criticism, calling the proposal “about the dumbest thing” he’d heard in a long time.
“Obama was right on this one, and McCain and Clinton were wrong,” said Mr. Bloomberg. “The last thing we need to do is to encourage people to drive more and to take away the monies we need for infrastructure in this country.”
The point here is that this was a tailor-made opening for the press to push the candidates hard on a phenomenally important question: What should we be doing in the short and long term about U.S. energy requirements?
Another issue: Economists were exhaling Friday because we only lost 20,000 jobs in April. After all, we lost 81,000 in March. Nevermind that we need to be creating millions of jobs if we’re ever going to get our economic house in order. With credit cards maxed out, real estate prices falling and enormous amounts of home equity already drained, a good job is the only legitimate way to put real money into the hands of cash-strapped families.
Americans are hurting on the jobs front. Those who are employed are working fewer hours and for less pay. Some sectors are crippled by unemployment. There are big-city neighborhoods in which the real jobless rate of young African-Americans is 80 percent or higher.
Do the candidates have concrete strategies for engaging these problems? Could we hear about them? Explore them? Critique them?
Are we in the news media going to be serious about this election, or is it really going to be all about Wright and race all the time?
Most of the electorate understands that the U.S. is in sorry shape, which is why more than 80 percent of poll respondents say we’re on the wrong track. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright has nothing to do with any of that. The idea that his nonsense may shape the outcome of this election is both tragic and absurd.
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Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Lastly, God bless Bill Moyers, if only more people watched PBS:
I once asked a reporter back from Vietnam, "Who's telling the truth over there?" Everyone he said. Everyone sees what's happening through the lens of their own experience." That's how people see Jeremiah Wright. In my conversation with him on this broadcast a week ago and in his dramatic public appearances since, he revealed himself to be far more complex than the sound bites that propelled him onto the public stage. Over 2000 of you have written me about him, and your opinions vary widely. Some sting: "Jeremiah Wright is nothing more than a race-hustling, American hating radical," one viewer wrote. A "nut case," said another. Others were far more were sympathetic to him.
Many of you have asked for some rational explanation for Wright's transition from reasonable conversation to shocking anger at the National Press Club. A psychologist might pull back some of the layers and see this complicated man more clearly, but I'm not a psychologist. Many black preachers I've known - scholarly, smart, and gentle in person -- uncorked fire and brimstone in the pulpit. Of course I've known many white preachers like that, too.
But where I grew up in the south, before the civil rights movement, the pulpit was a safe place for black men to express anger for which they would have been punished anywhere else; a safe place for the fierce thunder of dignity denied, justice delayed. I think I would have been angry if my ancestors had been transported thousands of miles in the hellish hole of a slave ship, then sold at auction, humiliated, whipped, and lynched. Or if my great-great grandfather had been but three -fifths of a person in a constitution that proclaimed, "We the people." Or if my own parents had been subjected to the racial vitriol of Jim Crow, Strom Thurmond, Bull Connor, and Jesse Helms. Even so, the anger of black preachers I've known and heard about and reported on was, for them, very personal and cathartic.
That's not how Jeremiah Wright came across in those sound bites or in his defiant performances this week. What white America is hearing in his most inflammatory words is an attack on the America they cherish and that many of their sons have died for in battle — forgetting that black Americans have fought and bled beside them, and that Wright himself has a record of honored service in the Navy. Hardly anyone took the "chickens come home to roost" remark to convey the message that intervention in the political battles of other nations is sure to bring retaliation in some form, which is not to justify the particular savagery of 9/11 but to understand that actions have consequences. My friend Bernard Weisberger, the historian, says, yes, people are understandably seething with indignation over Wright's absurd charge that the united states deliberately brought an HIV epidemic into being. But it is a fact, he says, that within living memory the U.S. Public Health Service conducted a study that deliberately deceived black men with syphilis into believing that they were being treated, while actually letting them die for the sake of a scientific test. Does this excuse Wright's anger? His exaggerations or distortions? You'll have to decide or yourself. At least it helps me to understand the why of them.
But in this multimedia age the pulpit isn't only available on Sunday mornings. There's round the clock media — the beast whose hunger is never satisfied, especially for the fast food with emotional content. So the preacher starts with rational discussion and after much prodding throws more and more gasoline on the fire that will eventually consume everything it touches. He had help — people who for their own reasons set out to conflate the man in the pulpit who wasn't running for president with the man in the pew who was.
Behold the double standard: John McCain sought out the endorsement of John Hagee, the war-mongering Catholic-bashing Texas preacher, who said the people of New Orleans got what they deserved for their sins. But no one suggests McCain shares Hagee's delusions, or thinks AIDS is God's punishment for homosexuality. Pat Robertson called for the assassination of a foreign head of state and asked God to remove Supreme Court justices, yet he remains a force in the Republican religious right. After 9/11 Jerry Falwell said the attack was God's judgment on America for having been driven out of our schools and the public square, but when McCain goes after the endorsement of a preacher he once condemned as an agent of intolerance, the press gives him a pass.
Jon Stewart recently played a tape from the Nixon white house in which Billy Graham talks in the oval office about how he has friends who are Jewish, but he knows in his heart that they are undermining America. This is crazy and wrong -- white preachers are given leeway in politics that others aren't.
Which means it is all about race, isn't it? Wright's offensive opinions and inflammatory appearances are judged differently. He doesn't fire a shot in anger, put a noose around anyone's neck, call for insurrection, or plant a bomb in a church with children in Sunday school. What he does is to speak his mind in a language and style that unsettles some people, and says some things so outlandish and ill-advised that he finally leaves Obama no choice but to end their friendship. Politics often exposes us to the corroding acid of the politics of personal destruction, but I've never seen anything like this — this wrenching break between pastor and parishioner. Both men no doubt will carry the grief to their graves. All the rest of us should hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America, where the gluttony of the non-stop media grinder consumes us all and prevents an honest conversation on race. It is the price we are paying for failing to heed the great historian Jacob Burckhardt, who said "beware the terrible simplifiers".
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HachfaceNot the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking ofDammit, Shepard!Registered Userregular
I just got my Oregon ballot in the mail today. It says very clearly in bold letters on the top Official Primary Nominating Ballot for the Democratic Party. I'd image the non-democratic ballot lacks that.
Also, I'd think you'd notice the lack of democratic candidates on the ballot. :P
Have you always been registered as a Democrat? You have received a ballot such as this? This is my first Oregon Primary. In fact I have never voted in a primary for any of the 4 states I have lived since I reached voting age. I have no idea what to expect in the mail. It could just state "Official Ballot" and most people would consider it kosher.
There are going to be a large amount of first time voters and voting for either candidate and I would rather not have Oregon be made into the same laughing stock as Florida was a number years back.
Don't worry. You'll get a nice thick envelope with the ballot, as well as a return envelope and a security envelope to put the ballot in, and some brief instructions on how to fill the thing out, and which envelope goes in which. Oregon has been doing this for several years now, and they've worked out a majority of the kinks. The only problem is, we usually don't get results until a day or two later, since there's no instant data from voting booths.
Is anyone else really relieved that Clinton decided to go with the old Dem standby of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? Obama was stuck in a rut and Clinton was pulling down nothing but favorable press before she not only bought into the idiotic pandering on the gas tax holiday, but went wildly overboard on it while literally paralleling Bush on his run up to the Iraq war.
It's things like this that sour me on Clinton. Not just that she's assuming the voting population is too stupid to notice this is a bad idea or to look beyond the crust of bread they are being thrown while Rome burns, but the fact she's just so bad at it. She honestly can't go more than a week or two without doing something to bring it all crashing down on her, and they're all unforced errors. If she actually bludgeoned her way through the nomination and managed to squeak out a win in the general, her first and only term would be an ineffectual blood bath and would give the Republican's back control of both Congress and the White House.
Also, the race in Louisiana with Cazayoux tomorrow is going to be huge. If he wins, it'll be a taken as solid proof of Obama's down ticket appeal and that the attacks on him from the right won't stick, and I think we'll see a lot of supers start moving to our side. If he loses though, expect that to sour the press on Obama again.
The only question is whether or not there's enough time left for these kinds of things to move the electorate in Indiana and North Carolina.
One thing I have noticed, he's started throwing "God bless America" at the end of his speeches. I always admired him for not having that particular pander, but I guess what with Wright he had to make it obvious before they started throwing that at him.
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GoslingLooking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, ProbablyWatertown, WIRegistered Userregular
edited May 2008
Good morning, fellow politicoooooooohhheeeEEEEEEYAGH GUAM GUAM I MUST HAVE RESULTS FROM GUAM! MY LIFE IS INCOMPLETE WITHOUT DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS RESULTS FROM MINOR PACIFIC ISLANDS--
(freezes in awkward, comical pose)
...This is what has become of me at this point of the campaign.
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Good morning, fellow politicoooooooohhheeeEEEEEEYAGH GUAM GUAM I MUST HAVE RESULTS FROM GUAM! MY LIFE IS INCOMPLETE WITHOUT DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS RESULTS FROM MINOR PACIFIC ISLANDS--
(freezes in awkward, comical pose)
...This is what has become of me at this point of the campaign.
I completely forgot about Guam. I'm so worried about the special election today and the primary tuesday I lost track of everything else we had going on.
Guam has 4 delegates, right? So we're looking at a 2-2 split with Clinton winning the popular vote, unless she breaks whatever percentage (63%?) it goes to 3-1.
A pretty good read about media scrutiny, even if they changed the name of the childhood game from "smear the queer" to "kill the man" (lolwut). Talks about how if this is Obama's low point, he's set, and notes how much Clinton and McCain have gotten away with, being out of the spotlight.
Of course, the article ends with this goddamn "dream-ticket" nonsense.
Go, my pretties, and make a worthy successor to this thread!
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That's because you got your priorities all a cock-a-hoop.
"How do you solve a problem like Hillaryyyyyyy..."
Horrible. But I'm laughing.
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Hahaha. Is that the same guy that did the BARACKY vid?
I know of about 3 or 4 people that just switched within a week of the April 29th deadline. I wonder if there is a way to distinguish between the out of date ballot and the valid one.
Also, I'd think you'd notice the lack of democratic candidates on the ballot. :P
We need to fucking lipsynch Obama Barack, Obama Barack.
Get some bitches on that.
I like the picture they have right under it, albeit for another story:
Spin Johnny Spin!
Also: That old lady makes for a terrifying clown.
Have you always been registered as a Democrat? You have received a ballot such as this? This is my first Oregon Primary. In fact I have never voted in a primary for any of the 4 states I have lived since I reached voting age. I have no idea what to expect in the mail. It could just state "Official Ballot" and most people would consider it kosher.
There are going to be a large amount of first time voters and voting for either candidate and I would rather not have Oregon be made into the same laughing stock as Florida was a number years back.
That totally had me thinking that Yoda would be Kennedy. I was a bit disappointed.
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Awww, you're no fun.
Yeah, but he has more in common with Yoda because, you know, the ears.
That's an excellent two sentence summary of this campaign.
Don't worry. You'll get a nice thick envelope with the ballot, as well as a return envelope and a security envelope to put the ballot in, and some brief instructions on how to fill the thing out, and which envelope goes in which. Oregon has been doing this for several years now, and they've worked out a majority of the kinks. The only problem is, we usually don't get results until a day or two later, since there's no instant data from voting booths.
It's things like this that sour me on Clinton. Not just that she's assuming the voting population is too stupid to notice this is a bad idea or to look beyond the crust of bread they are being thrown while Rome burns, but the fact she's just so bad at it. She honestly can't go more than a week or two without doing something to bring it all crashing down on her, and they're all unforced errors. If she actually bludgeoned her way through the nomination and managed to squeak out a win in the general, her first and only term would be an ineffectual blood bath and would give the Republican's back control of both Congress and the White House.
The only question is whether or not there's enough time left for these kinds of things to move the electorate in Indiana and North Carolina.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYmtgO7Hx3I
(freezes in awkward, comical pose)
...This is what has become of me at this point of the campaign.
Pretty good.
I completely forgot about Guam. I'm so worried about the special election today and the primary tuesday I lost track of everything else we had going on.
Guam has 4 delegates, right? So we're looking at a 2-2 split with Clinton winning the popular vote, unless she breaks whatever percentage (63%?) it goes to 3-1.
Causing the crowd to start chanting "Obama, Obama!"
A pretty good read about media scrutiny, even if they changed the name of the childhood game from "smear the queer" to "kill the man" (lolwut). Talks about how if this is Obama's low point, he's set, and notes how much Clinton and McCain have gotten away with, being out of the spotlight.
Of course, the article ends with this goddamn "dream-ticket" nonsense.