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darleysam · May 2008

Having not played the game, this is only based on what I've picked up from discussions and the like, but isn't it set in some imagined dream-world inside Chopin's head as he lay in bed dying?
So basically, probably not a lot to do with the man himself aside from featuring his music.

liquidlogan · May 2008

To quote Wikipedia:

The game is presented in chapters and each main chapter is named after one of Chopin’s famous works (For example, the chapter ‘Revolution’ is named after the ‘Revolutionary Etude’). The plot of the game follows two distinct narrative strands; the first, and main narrative, is the story of the fictional world that Chopin is experiencing while on his death bed. The other narrative provides historical information on Chopin’s life that is considered relevant to current plot developments in the fictional world and is displayed at key points during the course of the game. This narrative is accompanied by a rendition of the piece the chapter draws inspiration from.

It really is a great RPG and, although the sales were nothing spectacular, my hope is that we see more of the same on the 360.

Pompa · May 2008

couple more from the ps2 era

Herdy Gerdy

Mark of Kri

both have a real nice use of cartoon / Disney styles

The_Scarab · May 2008

BTW Fake, in case you hadn't guessed right away.

Pemulis · May 2008

There are a lot of little details in this game that make it awesome. (I just love this shot)

Brolo · May 2008

Kind of obvious it's a fake when they spell "technology" incorrectly.

Cantido · May 2008

SilkyNumNuts wrote: »

HappylilElf wrote: »

SilkyNumNuts wrote: »

I can't find a decent shot, but Giants:citizen kabuto looked amazing at the time.

Plus, y'know, boobs.

I remember playing the demo but I could never find the actual game itself in a store. Still wish I could find it because good lord did I have fun with that demo.

Twas awesome in teh extreme, though i did play it when I was but a young'un, and Didn't really "get" games- I'd just tool around on the first level or two... Never completed a game. Giants was really damn complex, and so a fair bit of it escaped me. What I could wrap my head around was purest badass though.

I've never seen anyone mention it on this board though, so I assume it must've been really rare.

You just reminded me of MDK 2.

fragglefart · May 2008

What with the sequel on its way and looking every bit as tasty, let's have a look at some real eye candy (geddit?)

Spoilered for the hueg.

Yum.

Brolo · May 2008

Oh Sacrifice fuck yes

I think this was the first game I owned that had built-in AA in it.

Aldo · May 2008

Sacrifice always looked so interesting, yet I didn't dare purchasing it.

BEAST! · May 2008

Flippy_D wrote: »

A few minutes later I was killed by a sniper because I was busy staring at a wet rock.

oh the irony!!!!!!!!!!

Brolo · May 2008

Aldo wrote: »

Sacrifice always looked so interesting, yet I didn't dare purchasing it.

It actually looks good and plays really well, even today. It's got some great production values. The gameplay is actually pretty unique as well, it's an interesting mix of RPG and strategy, and the mission structure is actually great for replayability.

Aldo · May 2008

Rolo wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Sacrifice always looked so interesting, yet I didn't dare purchasing it.

It actually looks good and plays really well, even today. It's got some great production values. The gameplay is actually pretty unique as well, it's an interesting mix of RPG and strategy, and the mission structure is actually great for replayability.

Is there a demo available somewhere? I was scared by Psychonauts as well, but then I played the demo on Steam and now I'm a believer.

Brolo · May 2008

Aldo wrote: »

Rolo wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Sacrifice always looked so interesting, yet I didn't dare purchasing it.

It actually looks good and plays really well, even today. It's got some great production values. The gameplay is actually pretty unique as well, it's an interesting mix of RPG and strategy, and the mission structure is actually great for replayability.

Is there a demo available somewhere? I was scared by Psychonauts as well, but then I played the demo on Steam and now I'm a believer.

http://www.fileplanet.com/52510/50000/fileinfo/Sacrifice-Demo

Mr Pink · May 2008

Great art style?

That plus fantastic music = sex.

Joril · May 2008

Sacrifice will always look good.

Now, who still hasn't hunted this down and bought it? Come on, we need to get the sacrifice community back on it's feet

Prospicience · May 2008

So many good games mentioned, now my turn.

Soul Reaver games. Art direction was amazing in all of them. That and the story was wonderful in my opinion.

Also there was a 2D game that hasn't been mentioned yet. I can't remember the details but I remember thinking it was beautiful, I believe it was a game towards the end of a gen of console, maybe Playstation or Supernintendo. I believe it might have been playstation. Had "eternal" or "dark" or something in the title possibly. I do remember it was a dark game and you played as a young boy or something I think I recall... maybe got older throughout the game? I think the theme revolved around nightmares or shadows or some such. Just remember the visuals being incredible.
Edit: The limbo game actually kinda reminded me of it.

And geeze I loved Giants: Citizen Kabuto, got it for free 7 years back when I built my computer.

maximumzero · May 2008

I've had the Mac version of Sacrifice since it was released, but I never got past the tutorial.

It stares at me from the CD wallpaper, with it's Shiny logo, taunting me.

PikaPuff · May 2008

FFIII/VI was the most amazing screenshot I've ever seen when there was a preview shot of it in Nintendo Power about 15 years ago. (Sabin crossing a bridge connecting two cliffs)

And when it finally came out it was indeed the best looking console game ever made.

Rohan · May 2008

Spoilered for h-scroll rapage -

Dreamfall's art direction is amazing... I can't find any really good pictures though.

I loved all of the graphics, but the Twilight Realm is really beautiful.

Super Mario Galaxy is just awesome.

Red Steel is still one of the best looking games on the Wii.

What Oblivion doesn't have, Morrowind does. And vice versa. Imagine Morrowind the game using the Oblivion engine!

And now for something completely different. Back in 1982, when the Commodore 64 was released, games looked like this -

Eleven years later, Apex Software used the C64 to create the following -

SithDrummer · May 2008

Prospicience wrote: »

So many good games mentioned, now my turn.

Soul Reaver games. Art direction was amazing in all of them. That and the story was wonderful in my opinion.

Oh jeez. Any time in SR2, or to a lesser degree Defiance, when Raziel was exploring a forge and began to look at the murals drawn by the ancients. Those were so beautiful yet haunting.

METAzraeL · May 2008

Prospicience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness_(game) ?

Prospicience · May 2008

METAzraeL wrote: »

Prospicience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness_(game) ?

Oh man... you made my day, I've been trying to find out what that game was called forever now. Too bad there's barely any pics online.

frame_lead.php?pid=63011&img=1#next

<---totally don't do it justice.

DisruptorX2 · May 2008

Someone posted Odin Sphere a couple pages back. Is that 2d? In either case, thats damn good looking.

I was going to post some Ogre Battle 64, but online screenshots are all low res.

METAzraeL · May 2008

Prospicience wrote: »

METAzraeL wrote: »

Prospicience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness_(game) ?

Oh man... you made my day, I've been trying to find out what that game was called forever now. Too bad there's barely any pics online.

<---totally don't do it justice.

I've never played it, but I remember the ads for it. They had a really cool style, definitely one of those games I always wanted to try.

Prospicience · May 2008

It was definitely a game with a lot of trial and error as I recall. Also I remember it being really short for a multiple disk playstation game. But I still remember really enjoying the style and gameplay while it lasted. Plus it had a really creepy feel to the whole game.

Icemopper · May 2008

liquidlogan wrote: »

To quote Wikipedia:

The game is presented in chapters and each main chapter is named after one of Chopinâ€™s famous works (For example, the chapter â€˜Revolutionâ€™ is named after the â€˜Revolutionary Etudeâ€™). The plot of the game follows two distinct narrative strands; the first, and main narrative, is the story of the fictional world that Chopin is experiencing while on his death bed. The other narrative provides historical information on Chopinâ€™s life that is considered relevant to current plot developments in the fictional world and is displayed at key points during the course of the game. This narrative is accompanied by a rendition of the piece the chapter draws inspiration from.

It really is a great RPG and, although the sales were nothing spectacular, my hope is that we see more of the same on the 360.

That is such great news. Chopin is one of my favorites by far. I have got to find a way to play this now.

UnbreakableVow · May 2008

Man, it had a really great art style and everything, but Eternal Sonata is one of the most boring damn games I've ever played. Plot was pure shit and you were always overpowered, making battles more of an annoyance than a challenge.

PatboyX · May 2008

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

Man, it had a really great art style and everything, but Eternal Sonata is one of the most boring damn games I've ever played. Plot was pure shit and you were always overpowered, making battles more of an annoyance than a challenge.

Do you generally feel that way about RPGs, though? I like FF and all that but I know the plots are shit. I just enjoy the battle mechanics.

randombattle · May 2008

METAzraeL wrote: »

Prospicience wrote: »

METAzraeL wrote: »

Prospicience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness_(game) ?

Oh man... you made my day, I've been trying to find out what that game was called forever now. Too bad there's barely any pics online.

<---totally don't do it justice.

I've never played it, but I remember the ads for it. They had a really cool style, definitely one of those games I always wanted to try.

I watched a lets play of that. It's kind of a D: game when you see the main character (a like 10 year old boy) get his neck snapped or back crunched.

Tav · May 2008

A lot of the best games in my collection don't have screenshots large enough on the intertubes to show their true glory. (I'm looking at you, Shogo Mobile Armor Division)

DisruptorX2 · May 2008

PatboyX wrote: »

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

Man, it had a really great art style and everything, but Eternal Sonata is one of the most boring damn games I've ever played. Plot was pure shit and you were always overpowered, making battles more of an annoyance than a challenge.

Do you generally feel that way about RPGs, though? I like FF and all that but I know the plots are shit. I just enjoy the battle mechanics.

FF games generally have likable characters, which puts them above most (all) other jrpgs.

Sure, the plots aren't much, but the games aren't really about them, its about having a party of kickass characters, fighting epic monsters, and having rocking tunes.

Tav · May 2008

Tav wrote: »

A lot of the best games in my collection don't have screenshots large enough on the intertubes to show their true glory. (I'm looking at you, Shogo Mobile Armor Division)

Ohh, GiS proved me wrong. Sanitarium was one of the most creepy, atmospheric games ever made. I was lucky enough to play it when I was younger, but since then I've not played it. I've been meaning to go back and play it, but my time has been limited.

Brolo · May 2008

Oh man, I've wanted this game to work for so long.

I bought the original discs when I was in the US, but they've never seemed to work properly. The install tries to copy over a sanitarium.msc file, hangs and then fails.

SithDrummer · May 2008

Perhaps not the greatest still graphics, but awesome animation and physics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPj_f72Nlbw

(Myth)

DisruptorX2 · May 2008

Physics are something else, but if we're going to count them, Carmageddon 2 has an unrivaled damage model system. The cars bend, break, and split in 2 along various axises. Its not just down the center, either, you can get them to break at angles. The graphics themselves are shit by todays standards, but the damage model has yet to be surpassed in any commercial game.

The_Scarab · May 2008

Bring back isometric games I say.

Seriously. With all the modern flash and whizbang of hyper realistic 3d graphics make a game simplified isometric and polish the ever loving shit out of it.

Also:

(INGAME)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-y_eCsYExk

Excluding the shitty music damn impressive.

I dont think people quite get just how much better Crysis is, graphically, than anything else out there. By a margin.

DisruptorX2 · May 2008

The_Scarab wrote: »

Bring back isometric games I say.

Seriously. With all the modern flash and whizbang of hyper realistic 3d graphics make a game simplified isometric and polish the ever loving shit out of it..

Isometric techincally refers to illusionary 3d. But there's some really, really good looking zoomed out isometric perspective true 3d games like Titan Quest and Silent Storm.

protip to video game developers: zooming out the camera makes the graphics better without having to bump map everything or BLOOOOOM it.

Red or Alive · May 2008

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

there's also this

Y'know, even without Makoto and Chun Li, the first two iterations of SF3 were far, far prettier than Third Strike. The backgrounds, the presentation, everything just had more thought and effort put into it. I mean, Ibuki's TS stage was possibly the laziest background I've ever seen on a big-budget fighter.

Rohan · May 2008

The_Scarab wrote: »

I dont think people quite get just how much better Crysis is, graphically, than anything else out there. By a margin.

Well sure, it's easy enough to claim the title of "most polygons ever in a single environment" when nobody can even run it yet ;)

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