So I've just sent like 8 e-mails to various companies asking when would be best to check back for/apply for summer internships next year, or I asked if they even offered internships, if their website was ambiguous. I've also got a small list of companies that have mentioned they don't offer internships, but I'm looking at them to submit stuff later on, for a real jorb. Also, there's one or two that just say "check back later, we're not sure yet".
I'm kinda looking into visual effects/game companies for an art (orly?) position, anybody have any ideas? I've checked out Blizzard, EA, ILM, Digital Domain, Insomniac Games, Flagship Studios, ImageMoversDigital, CafeFX, Sony Imageworks, Blue Sky Studios, and Rhythm & Hues. There are a handful of others that I'm about - either they're way out of my league, currently (Massive Black!), or I'm not sure I'd be the type of artist they're looking for (i.e. Pixar - rather cartoony, seem to want mostly just animators).
Any other suggestions people may have would be cool, though! Even if it's not exactly right for me, I figure I can look at what they want anyway, just to get a feel for things...and maybe figure out how to adapt to what they want later :P. I also want to learn 3D modeling soon, and maybe eventually I'll consider a job doing that, or some aspect related to modeling (like texturing). MUCH later on I also plan on being a badass at 3D animating...but I also plan on knowing everything, probably in a really unrealistic sense...but hey! I can dream.
I've got a strong interest in visual effects, though I can't do any of that yet...but if something involves concept art (environment design, character design, creature design, whathaveyou), matte painting, general Art Intern/Artist, and potentially requires some knowledge of 3D...I am there!
Also, OMGIWANTTODOTHISSOBAD : Is it special FX makeup? Sculpting? Basically, those people that literally sculpt costumes (for the orcs in Lord of the Rings, for instance) and stuff along those lines...wow I would LOVE to do that...but I have no idea where I would even start to look.
But yeah blah blah blah if you guys have any thoughts/comments/suggestions that would be pretty rad. Thangyoo.
After biking earlier in the day, I tucked my legs up in my sleep last night and gave myself massive cramps in both legs. Nothing like waking up in the middle of the night feeling like someone set your legs on fire.
Slipping into a dream like state of intoxication and narcotic inundation a child of mere years coutable upon a single hand, can for a moment, transend the confines of his mediocre monotony and claw vigorously through the thick fleshy cavern of his mind to retch incendiary colors through the world outside.
Loath tho the child may be to apprentice the fears within to the choking lack of air that threatens to cascade death upon a youth of so little life it is a fight worthy of the leather bound books which stand testement to the ripples of only the most vivid and historical of stories.
Love is not the leaping of the cliff but the courage to walk away and struggle to leave the world in a better place when the leap is lept not by ones own choice.
So I went to the doctor for a sore throat. When I came out of the pharmacy I had an appointment with a dietician, some pamphlets on back exercises, some forms to fill in to let the government know I'm diabetic, a 6 month supply of insulin, antibiotics, a 48 tablet box of neurofen plus and some anti-inflammatories for my lower back pain.
I am twenty six years of age.
holy CRAP
sorry to hear that, robot!
Haha, that's okay, it wasn't that I was suddenly diagnosed with all these problems, I just thought the amount of medicating I require is sort of hilarious. I can't wait to also complain about my bad knee and my bung hip. I got type-1 (juvenile) diabetes about 3 years ago, which is pretty weird apparently. There's no known cause for it, apparently, but my pancreas has crapped out.
I'm trying to think of extra ways I could indulge in further medications. I could claim depression, maybe an attention deficit disorder. Sleep disorders? The pill? It doesn't matter that I don't have a womb, right?
I woke up at 2:30am this morning to be at the armory at 3:15am to draw out weapons, we stood by for like 2 hours then left on a company 3 mile hike carrying about 80lbs of gear. By about 7am, we finished the hike and were told to change into our Service Charlie uniform and be at the chapel at 8:15am for a safety brief since we have a 4 day weekend. We've heard 5 safety briefs today, all of them because Marines in my company have been especially retarded and getting drunk, throwing beer bottles off the 3rd deck catwalk, pissing in front of the Officer of the Day, and hazing boots to the point of suicide. (or attempted at least)
I just got off work, changed out of my Charlies and am now about to fall asleep after a 14 hour work day. :zzz:
Was anyone else grinning like an idiot when Indy smashed through a wall of boxes in Area 51, and one of the boxes revealed the Ark of the Covenant from the first movie?
And now I'm off to get a new tube for my bike tire!
I managed to successfully use one of those patch kits yesterday after carrying one around in my backpack for years. I almost forgot I had it. Still kind of a hassle to remove the wheel, remove the tire, remove the tube, find the leak, patch the tube, replace the tube, replace the tire, inflate the tire...
I just want things to work perfectly all the time. Is that too much to ask?
I just want to say that I watched Diary of the Dead last night for the first time (I was in Iraq when it came out in theaters) and I really... didn't like it.
I have till July 2nd to work as much as I can towards paying off my $1400 before I start attending my figure drawing class waaaaaaaaaaay up in Huntsville, TX. It's about a good 45 minute to an hour drive one way, and eats through my gas like nobody's business. I'll have to be filling up every other day, meaning i'll be working practically every evening of the week, meaning at least half of what I make will be going towards paying for gas alone instead of college funds and bills.
HOLLLY CRAP HAHAHAHAH I find it hilarious when I think I'm being nice by giving someone an in-depth critique on their really shitty art and they respond with butthurt and ultimately with a "I think you're jealous"
Yeah, I'm jealous of that. I cry myself to sleep at night because I just can't achieve this level of epic.
What's funny is that I offered a draw-over with some corrections. I guess I shouldn't have done that because she was SO SO OFFENDED.
There's some forms of critism I accept. Please, NEVER, EVER, go OVER MY WORK. It's copyrighted.
It's copyrighted, after all.
She was also mad I told her to "get an education." [Note: in-context, I was providing a picture of Da Vinci's famous human study so she can educate herself on human proportions, which I already mentioned she had a rather weak grasp of.] Then proceeded to send me a furious PM full of indignant ranting over HOW RUDE I AM that I INSULTED HER PORTFOLIO WITHOUT EVEN SEEING IT (I didn't) and LAUGH ALL YOU WANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU END UP AT THE BOTTOM, and how I didn't offer the same criticism to someone who was copying DBZ pictures and therefore I am biased.
I even advised her to check out some serious art forums to gain an idea for what the art world is really like, because that kind of attitude won't survive 10 minutes. Which gained the "piss off" response.
tl;dr I blame everyone here for tricking me into thinking people who ask for critiques on their art actually own a pair and won't react like a goddamn fucking three-year-old.
What's funny is that I offered a draw-over with some corrections. I guess I shouldn't have done that because she was SO SO OFFENDED.
There's some forms of critism I accept. Please, NEVER, EVER, go OVER MY WORK. It's copyrighted.
It's copyrighted, after all.
She was also mad I told her to "get an education." [Note: in-context, I was providing a picture of Da Vinci's famous human study so she can educate herself on human proportions, which I already mentioned she had a rather weak grasp of.] Then proceeded to send me a furious PM full of indignant ranting over HOW RUDE I AM that I INSULTED HER PORTFOLIO WITHOUT EVEN SEEING IT (I didn't) and LAUGH ALL YOU WANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU END UP AT THE BOTTOM, and how I didn't offer the same criticism to someone who was copying DBZ pictures and therefore I am biased.
I even advised her to check out some serious art forums to gain an idea for what the art world is really like, because that kind of attitude won't survive 10 minutes. Which gained the "piss off" response.
tl;dr I blame everyone here for tricking me into thinking people who ask for critiques on their art actually own a pair and won't react like a goddamn fucking three-year-old.
The art world is rough, my friend. I've never received harsh criticism so I can't say how I'd react to it, but I hope I would at least try to be civil, even if it made me angry. I have a feeling it wouldn't effect me too much because I basically disown most of my work as soon as it is complete. I hate what I draw most of the time.
Hey, you don't need to tell ME that.
You know, the thing is I don't think it was all that harsh, but perhaps just blunt. And I'd like to think I WAS being civil. Here, my entire post, for your judgement:
Here are some corrections I've provided for your last full-figure pose:
First thing I noticed were her feet. Why are they so small? There's no way she could comfortably walk on them, let alone balance on them like that. The human foot is approximately the same length as the human forearm, so it should neatly fit between your inner elbow and your wrist. It's quite apparent that hers would have far too much wiggle room in that aspect.
Second, her legs seem to be a bit too long. Something I couldn't quite be sure of because her torso is also drawn oddly (in that her ribcage appears to be nonexistent, or at the very least FAR too small. I'm not even sure if the draw-over ribcage I provided is big enough), plus her under wear is either really huge or her groin is waay too far down. I've also drawn over the legs a bit since they seem to be lacking the proper shape (knees are annoying to draw since they aren't very good-looking anyway, imho).
Also, her arms are way too short. While standing, a person's fingertips should reach... eehn, somewhere between the top third and and middle of the thigh. Hers look like they would barely reach her hips. I've lengthened them a bit, as well as given her actual shoulders (though I like muscles, so I may have over-reached a bit there, heh)
Here's a work-friendly version of a famous human study you might want to look at a bit for more educating yourself (even if it is a dude):
Also, I like the pose you used. It's good to variate from standing around to doing something like stretching.
Does that seem outrageously rude? Am I really out of touch? Because IMHO, that's a pretty silly thing to throw a gigantic shitfit over.
yes, I know it's animeforum.com but really. Let's ignore that for a second and focus more on the part where she asked for criticism and responded like a little bitch when she got it without sugar on top.
So you really expected a reasonable response to classical foundation art criticism by someone that draws mediocre anime-styled art, on an anime forum, and self-identifies themselves with an alias containing the following:
1) "Dark"
2) A random Japanese word
3) A popular anime character's name
There is a little thing called picking your battles, I'm afraid.
yes yes I know that's ad hominem and stereotyped blah blah don't get your knickers in a twist.
Yeah, I don't know what's gotten into me. Now and then I like to hope against hope that a sparkling glittery diamond will rise above the dirt. So far only shit clumps have.
Although I suppose I could point out some stuff in that post that could easily be misconstrued as a jape at their expense if I were pressed to do so. And since I'm bored and have nothing better to do- and because I at least attempt to give advice that will be taken without pissing off anybody too badly (at least hope I'm getting better at it) -I will.
1) Putting smiley faces on the draw-over and the DaVinci sketch may not quite have had the effect you were hoping for. Sure, maybe you were trying to be cute to take the edge off, but that's something that can swing both ways. If you don't know the person all that well, that cutsey touch that works great between friends, can come across more like that cheerful perky smile on an airline gate attendant as she informs you that your flight has been delayed for a further 5 hours. People don't necessarily want their bad news delivered with a full-open mouth smile, so just sticking to business is probably safer.
2) Calling your draw-over simply "corrections". Yes, everybody in the world may agree with you that it looks better, but it starts you off on a bad footing by saying "I am right and you are wrong" right from the start. You should probably stick to calling them 'suggestions', or 'possible solutions to some problematic areas' or something instead. You're there to help them, not to just check off mistakes with a red pen like it's a math test; using language that reflects that, 'we are in the same boat, just looking for solutions together' feeling is going to reduce at least some of the resentment. Well, maybe. Most people would rather feel they've been convinced rather than ordered.
Also you may notice when I do paintovers for new people here, I usually preface them with something like "I hope you don't mind, but I did this paintover to illustrate my point." Showing that you know you're taking a risk and are, in fact, considering how they're going to feel about it as you do so can go a long way.
3) The rhetorical question "Why are the feet so small?" You're not really looking for an answer, obviously, so it just comes across as code for "Why are you so stupid?" Again, sticking to business is the way to go. You do go into business later, but by then the damage has already been done.
4) The DaVinci sketch thing. Yes, it could be a great thing to point to when it comes to pointing out how artists have and should spend a great deal of time and energy devoting themselves to getting the proportions and anatomy of a human figure down properly in their heads. However, you provided it with very little context or real presentation of how that picture is going to help them, or how it connects directly to the specific issues at hand. Without creating a more direct correlation, it can come across more as "Why don't you try making art next time, huh?" You've implied the need for classical education and training, but haven't tied it back so much to the work they are doing now, or how they are actually supposed to use the DaVinci sketch to further their skills to where they want them to be. It may be tempting to just sit 12 years worth of textbooks in front of a first grader and say "educate yourself," and save a fortune in education costs, but you can't expect the method to be all that effective on the whole.
That said, I can't say with any sort of certainty doing any of this would make any difference in the end; after all, I don't know this person at all. Notice though that everything I've suggested is not criticism of the well, criticism in terms of the points raised; it's all generally very solid advice. It's just the language of how it is presented can rankle some people...well, some potentially hyper-sensitive people at any rate, but whatever; you'll always be dealing with something of an unknown quantity on the other end of these things, so there you are.
Certainly, nothing you said was really egregiously offensive, and I don't want to defend people going apeshit over nothing, and I certainly wouldn't want people are here to feel they have to be quite so pussy-footed about critiques, because that would make things suck. But if you insist on trying to prod DIMkareokeGohan's like off the beaten path of mediocrity, you might have to give them some carrots before you can really give them the whip if you see what I mean.
Or, they might just be douchebags and you should just wash your hands of them.:rotate:
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I'm kinda looking into visual effects/game companies for an art (orly?) position, anybody have any ideas? I've checked out Blizzard, EA, ILM, Digital Domain, Insomniac Games, Flagship Studios, ImageMoversDigital, CafeFX, Sony Imageworks, Blue Sky Studios, and Rhythm & Hues. There are a handful of others that I'm
Any other suggestions people may have would be cool, though! Even if it's not exactly right for me, I figure I can look at what they want anyway, just to get a feel for things...and maybe figure out how to adapt to what they want later :P. I also want to learn 3D modeling soon, and maybe eventually I'll consider a job doing that, or some aspect related to modeling (like texturing). MUCH later on I also plan on being a badass at 3D animating...but I also plan on knowing everything, probably in a really unrealistic sense...but hey! I can dream.
I've got a strong interest in visual effects, though I can't do any of that yet...but if something involves concept art (environment design, character design, creature design, whathaveyou), matte painting, general Art Intern/Artist, and potentially requires some knowledge of 3D...I am there!
Also, OMGIWANTTODOTHISSOBAD : Is it special FX makeup? Sculpting? Basically, those people that literally sculpt costumes (for the orcs in Lord of the Rings, for instance) and stuff along those lines...wow I would LOVE to do that...but I have no idea where I would even start to look.
But yeah blah blah blah if you guys have any thoughts/comments/suggestions that would be pretty rad. Thangyoo.
I'm with you on that one MT. :x
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I did have to get bloodwork done today, and I can't stand getting stuck with needles. That was the only horrendous thing about my day.
DMAC: Are you getting plenty of potassium?
Loath tho the child may be to apprentice the fears within to the choking lack of air that threatens to cascade death upon a youth of so little life it is a fight worthy of the leather bound books which stand testement to the ripples of only the most vivid and historical of stories.
Love is not the leaping of the cliff but the courage to walk away and struggle to leave the world in a better place when the leap is lept not by ones own choice.
Fuck I gotta go to work.
Haha, that's okay, it wasn't that I was suddenly diagnosed with all these problems, I just thought the amount of medicating I require is sort of hilarious. I can't wait to also complain about my bad knee and my bung hip. I got type-1 (juvenile) diabetes about 3 years ago, which is pretty weird apparently. There's no known cause for it, apparently, but my pancreas has crapped out.
I'm trying to think of extra ways I could indulge in further medications. I could claim depression, maybe an attention deficit disorder. Sleep disorders? The pill? It doesn't matter that I don't have a womb, right?
I woke up at 2:30am this morning to be at the armory at 3:15am to draw out weapons, we stood by for like 2 hours then left on a company 3 mile hike carrying about 80lbs of gear. By about 7am, we finished the hike and were told to change into our Service Charlie uniform and be at the chapel at 8:15am for a safety brief since we have a 4 day weekend. We've heard 5 safety briefs today, all of them because Marines in my company have been especially retarded and getting drunk, throwing beer bottles off the 3rd deck catwalk, pissing in front of the Officer of the Day, and hazing boots to the point of suicide. (or attempted at least)
I just got off work, changed out of my Charlies and am now about to fall asleep after a 14 hour work day.
PSN: MaximasXXZ XBOX Live: SneakyMcSnipe
Can anyone help? any suggestions.
I managed to successfully use one of those patch kits yesterday after carrying one around in my backpack for years. I almost forgot I had it. Still kind of a hassle to remove the wheel, remove the tire, remove the tube, find the leak, patch the tube, replace the tube, replace the tire, inflate the tire...
I just want things to work perfectly all the time. Is that too much to ask?
PSN: MaximasXXZ XBOX Live: SneakyMcSnipe
I have till July 2nd to work as much as I can towards paying off my $1400 before I start attending my figure drawing class waaaaaaaaaaay up in Huntsville, TX. It's about a good 45 minute to an hour drive one way, and eats through my gas like nobody's business. I'll have to be filling up every other day, meaning i'll be working practically every evening of the week, meaning at least half of what I make will be going towards paying for gas alone instead of college funds and bills.
Yeesh.
It was alright. Nothing special. The previous ones were obviously better. Even the Temple of Doom.
Yeah, I'm jealous of that. I cry myself to sleep at night because I just can't achieve this level of epic.
Tiny feet!
Come for the comics, stay for the community I guess. Not that I'm all that active on the forums anyway.
She was also mad I told her to "get an education." [Note: in-context, I was providing a picture of Da Vinci's famous human study so she can educate herself on human proportions, which I already mentioned she had a rather weak grasp of.] Then proceeded to send me a furious PM full of indignant ranting over HOW RUDE I AM that I INSULTED HER PORTFOLIO WITHOUT EVEN SEEING IT (I didn't) and LAUGH ALL YOU WANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU END UP AT THE BOTTOM, and how I didn't offer the same criticism to someone who was copying DBZ pictures and therefore I am biased.
I even advised her to check out some serious art forums to gain an idea for what the art world is really like, because that kind of attitude won't survive 10 minutes. Which gained the "piss off" response.
tl;dr I blame everyone here for tricking me into thinking people who ask for critiques on their art actually own a pair and won't react like a goddamn fucking three-year-old.
The art world is rough, my friend. I've never received harsh criticism so I can't say how I'd react to it, but I hope I would at least try to be civil, even if it made me angry. I have a feeling it wouldn't effect me too much because I basically disown most of my work as soon as it is complete. I hate what I draw most of the time.
You know, the thing is I don't think it was all that harsh, but perhaps just blunt. And I'd like to think I WAS being civil. Here, my entire post, for your judgement:
Does that seem outrageously rude? Am I really out of touch? Because IMHO, that's a pretty silly thing to throw a gigantic shitfit over.
yes, I know it's animeforum.com but really. Let's ignore that for a second and focus more on the part where she asked for criticism and responded like a little bitch when she got it without sugar on top.
1) "Dark"
2) A random Japanese word
3) A popular anime character's name
There is a little thing called picking your battles, I'm afraid.
yes yes I know that's ad hominem and stereotyped blah blah don't get your knickers in a twist.
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It was entertaining, though.
1) Putting smiley faces on the draw-over and the DaVinci sketch may not quite have had the effect you were hoping for. Sure, maybe you were trying to be cute to take the edge off, but that's something that can swing both ways. If you don't know the person all that well, that cutsey touch that works great between friends, can come across more like that cheerful perky smile on an airline gate attendant as she informs you that your flight has been delayed for a further 5 hours. People don't necessarily want their bad news delivered with a full-open mouth smile, so just sticking to business is probably safer.
2) Calling your draw-over simply "corrections". Yes, everybody in the world may agree with you that it looks better, but it starts you off on a bad footing by saying "I am right and you are wrong" right from the start. You should probably stick to calling them 'suggestions', or 'possible solutions to some problematic areas' or something instead. You're there to help them, not to just check off mistakes with a red pen like it's a math test; using language that reflects that, 'we are in the same boat, just looking for solutions together' feeling is going to reduce at least some of the resentment. Well, maybe. Most people would rather feel they've been convinced rather than ordered.
Also you may notice when I do paintovers for new people here, I usually preface them with something like "I hope you don't mind, but I did this paintover to illustrate my point." Showing that you know you're taking a risk and are, in fact, considering how they're going to feel about it as you do so can go a long way.
3) The rhetorical question "Why are the feet so small?" You're not really looking for an answer, obviously, so it just comes across as code for "Why are you so stupid?" Again, sticking to business is the way to go. You do go into business later, but by then the damage has already been done.
4) The DaVinci sketch thing. Yes, it could be a great thing to point to when it comes to pointing out how artists have and should spend a great deal of time and energy devoting themselves to getting the proportions and anatomy of a human figure down properly in their heads. However, you provided it with very little context or real presentation of how that picture is going to help them, or how it connects directly to the specific issues at hand. Without creating a more direct correlation, it can come across more as "Why don't you try making art next time, huh?" You've implied the need for classical education and training, but haven't tied it back so much to the work they are doing now, or how they are actually supposed to use the DaVinci sketch to further their skills to where they want them to be. It may be tempting to just sit 12 years worth of textbooks in front of a first grader and say "educate yourself," and save a fortune in education costs, but you can't expect the method to be all that effective on the whole.
That said, I can't say with any sort of certainty doing any of this would make any difference in the end; after all, I don't know this person at all. Notice though that everything I've suggested is not criticism of the well, criticism in terms of the points raised; it's all generally very solid advice. It's just the language of how it is presented can rankle some people...well, some potentially hyper-sensitive people at any rate, but whatever; you'll always be dealing with something of an unknown quantity on the other end of these things, so there you are.
Certainly, nothing you said was really egregiously offensive, and I don't want to defend people going apeshit over nothing, and I certainly wouldn't want people are here to feel they have to be quite so pussy-footed about critiques, because that would make things suck. But if you insist on trying to prod DIMkareokeGohan's like off the beaten path of mediocrity, you might have to give them some carrots before you can really give them the whip if you see what I mean.
Or, they might just be douchebags and you should just wash your hands of them.:rotate:
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Are you....speaking from experience? 'Cuz holy crap.
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