No matter who he is, you really shouldn't just leave the ban on. I mean, how exactly should he have gone about trying to get unbanned? People get less time for trolling.
You say that now, but just wait. One day you'll be mad with power and then you'll understand.
Fine pheezer, you're the boss and you know what's best for us here comes the chopper 2+2=5 etc.
How many lights are there?
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IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
I was talkin bout the robot from the Short Circuit movies, and KungFu and Paladin, thanks for your support. It's not that I'm addicted to the net I just have a short attention span and the less distractions the better.
I doubt the end would have been different had we not intervened. You can only milk this stuff for so long.
And I'm changing my title again.
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I was talkin bout the robot from the Short Circuit movies, and KungFu and Paladin, thanks for your support. It's not that I'm addicted to the net I just have a short attention span and the less distractions the better.
oh
i know
but google doesn't know the difference between a humourous robot and a penis
I don't undestand why Monkey Den has suddenly turned into a place to beg for your privilages being returned.
Man people, I thought you knew it's a place for me to suggest that I be a deputy.
I should be.
The deputy phase is gone, this is a bit different of a case, and you need your avatar resized.
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
You keep forgetting that he wasn't banned as punishment in the first place.
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
There is such a thing in psychology as an internet addiction, but that's only recognized because there are extreme cases. Orthanc, this fenlore probably had enough willpower to actually recognize the conflict between studying and the forums but not enough to quit outright. Several people that do not ask for temp bans, remember, are the ones that refuse to recognize a growing addiction and sacrifice their grades and/or lives because of it. I think self-banning is a good practice for those of us who are not accustomed to cold-turkeying and need a little push - I think there was a maxim that said, to some effect, that a locked door is the best defense against temptation. I sincerely hope that you do not consider these people inferior and look down upon them, because I'm sure you have your share of weaknesses that cross the line of humorous exploitation. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I really believe that fenlore should be unbanned and this thread forgotten (If that hasn't happened already).
On an unrelated note, I fail to see the humor in leaving fenlore banned, but that is probably because I'm not really thinking right now, and my wit is very dull.
First off. We all knew that whatever was said in this thread, he was hardly going to stay banned for ever.
Secondly, only psycological addiction to the internet is possible. If someone is unable to overcome that addiction by themself, they have bigger problems than an internet addiciton. And as I said, anyone who is unable to study without being banned from the forums, is just going to turn on the TV, load up a game or some other form of procrastination. If they're able to avoid that, they would have been able to stop coming to the forums for a day or two.
If I'm reading this thread correctly, he asked for a 24 hour ban. 24 hours is not going to make fuck all difference on a test or any assignment large enough to warnent him asking for the ban.
There is such a thing in psychology as an internet addiction, but that's only recognized because there are extreme cases. Orthanc, this fenlore probably had enough willpower to actually recognize the conflict between studying and the forums but not enough to quit outright. Several people that do not ask for temp bans, remember, are the ones that refuse to recognize a growing addiction and sacrifice their grades and/or lives because of it. I think self-banning is a good practice for those of us who are not accustomed to cold-turkeying and need a little push - I think there was a maxim that said, to some effect, that a locked door is the best defense against temptation. I sincerely hope that you do not consider these people inferior and look down upon them, because I'm sure you have your share of weaknesses that cross the line of humorous exploitation. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I really believe that fenlore should be unbanned and this thread forgotten (If that hasn't happened already).
On an unrelated note, I fail to see the humor in leaving fenlore banned, but that is probably because I'm not really thinking right now, and my wit is very dull.
First off. We all knew that whatever was said in this thread, he was hardly going to stay banned for ever.
Secondly, only psycological addiction to the internet is possible. If someone is unable to overcome that addiction by themself, they have bigger problems than an internet addiciton. And as I said, anyone who is unable to study without being banned from the forums, is just going to turn on the TV, load up a game or some other form of procrastination. If they're able to avoid that, they would have been able to stop coming to the forums for a day or two.
If I'm reading this thread correctly, he asked for a 24 hour ban. 24 hours is not going to make fuck all difference on a test or any assignment large enough to warnent him asking for the ban.
The thing about the internet, different from television or video games, though, is the fact that you interact with other people on it. Therefore, you always get new stimulating material, and don't just stop because of ennui. For instance, I have somewhat the same problem, except that my computer has an inconveniently long startup time, which is a deterrent from me turning it on. If my computer is not on, I am a fountain of productivity. That isn't the same situation as television or video games - even if I'm not bored to death, I'll still visit the internet, unlike television where I only watch it if there is a treat scheduled. Psychologically, the internet feeds the need of social stimulation, eradicating a lump of the reason you go out to interact with people, and that's why it's a different class of addiction than other forms of procrastination.
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
The thing about the internet, different from television or video games, though, is the fact that you interact with other people on it. Therefore, you always get new stimulating material, and don't just stop because of ennui. For instance, I have somewhat the same problem, except that my computer has an inconveniently long startup time, which is a deterrent from me turning it on. If my computer is not on, I am a fountain of productivity. That isn't the same situation as television or video games - even if I'm not bored to death, I'll still visit the internet, unlike television where I only watch it if there is a treat scheduled. Psychologically, the internet feeds the need of social stimulation, eradicating a lump of the reason you go out to interact with people, and that's why it's a different class of addiction than other forms of procrastination.
You comparing a different situation. Yes people can substitute the internet for real human contact, and that is bad. But that is a different situation from needing to settle down and study.
If someone was actually addicted to the internet at the level you suggest, then I have no problem helping them break out with a ban. But it should be a permanant ban, at the very least a hell of a lot longer than 24 hours. Fenlore may well suffer that level of "internet"addiction, I'm not one to say, but it's clear he was not asking to be banned to combat his debilitating internet addicition, he was asking to be banned for one day to study. A non internet anolog would be to ask a club bouncer not to let you in tommorow because you have a big test the next day.
The club bouncer analogy fits better than the jail analogy, but that case is easier than this one, because it's really not the bouncer's business to plan for the betterment of the group the bouncer's moderating.
Aside, there are different levels of procrastination. I agree that if you have a chronic problem with it, banning one form of delay won't really help, but most forms of regular procrastination are "Oh I have to research this topic online or look at my powerpoint slides, and the forums link is only one click away" types of temptations. Some people, when they procrastinate, are on the ready for an excuse to get to work, not to avoid work - yeah, that sounds pretty weird, but that's exactly my stance when it comes to "essay or presentation due tomorrow" scenarios. However, with "I need to catch up on my reading" scenarios, I (at least) default to the "well I can always put it off" strategy and probably wouldn't start the work even if I was banned. However, when you have a bit of panic involved, a rough slap or a rude nudge may be just what you need to get serious. At least with the forum ban, you have a reminder to do your work, and something to look forward to after you've completed it. Negative reinforcement for the block.
And CT, the internet is so a substitute for social interaction, just not a very healthy, fulfilling, or profitable one.
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The club bouncer analogy fits better than the jail analogy, but that case is easier than this one, because it's really not the bouncer's business to plan for the betterment of the group the bouncer's moderating.
Funny, last time I checked that wasn't the mods job either.
The club bouncer analogy fits better than the jail analogy, but that case is easier than this one, because it's really not the bouncer's business to plan for the betterment of the group the bouncer's moderating.
Funny, last time I checked that wasn't the mods job either.
Oh you.
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I love how this topic which my friend set up to get me unbanned after an unfortunate mix up has derailed so very far, even with pheezer here.
Let us settle this once and for all.
1) I am not addected to the internet.
2) I do however have a very short attention span and therefor I can easily be detered from studying, hence I asked for a temp ban so I could study for a test I though I would do poorly on if I didn't study.
3) I'm an asshole, but angry will always be king ass
4) any addiction people might think they have to the internet is mental and can therefore be turned off if people only actually thoguht about it.
5) lock this bloody thread as it has simple because another psychological discussion
4) Any addiction people might think they have to the internet is mental and can therefore be turned off if people only actually thought about it.
HA.
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How many lights are there?
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
And I'm changing my title again.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Did I mention I love you and I want to marry you?
I think I've said it before.
Also, fenlore sucks.
Keep him banned.
And pheezer, for the next 3 times I doubt you I won't say a thing because you unbanned me.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Man people, I thought you knew it's a place for me to suggest that I be a deputy.
I should be.
i know
but google doesn't know the difference between a humourous robot and a penis
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
And the word is secondary to the avatar.
So.
http://fenlore.250free.com/guy.JPG
As I have said many times before, JPEG=TEH SUCK.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
At least its legible now.
That's an awesome movie.
I gotta rent it. Haven't seen it in 4 years.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
First off. We all knew that whatever was said in this thread, he was hardly going to stay banned for ever.
Secondly, only psycological addiction to the internet is possible. If someone is unable to overcome that addiction by themself, they have bigger problems than an internet addiciton. And as I said, anyone who is unable to study without being banned from the forums, is just going to turn on the TV, load up a game or some other form of procrastination. If they're able to avoid that, they would have been able to stop coming to the forums for a day or two.
If I'm reading this thread correctly, he asked for a 24 hour ban. 24 hours is not going to make fuck all difference on a test or any assignment large enough to warnent him asking for the ban.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
You comparing a different situation. Yes people can substitute the internet for real human contact, and that is bad. But that is a different situation from needing to settle down and study.
If someone was actually addicted to the internet at the level you suggest, then I have no problem helping them break out with a ban. But it should be a permanant ban, at the very least a hell of a lot longer than 24 hours. Fenlore may well suffer that level of "internet"addiction, I'm not one to say, but it's clear he was not asking to be banned to combat his debilitating internet addicition, he was asking to be banned for one day to study. A non internet anolog would be to ask a club bouncer not to let you in tommorow because you have a big test the next day.
Aside, there are different levels of procrastination. I agree that if you have a chronic problem with it, banning one form of delay won't really help, but most forms of regular procrastination are "Oh I have to research this topic online or look at my powerpoint slides, and the forums link is only one click away" types of temptations. Some people, when they procrastinate, are on the ready for an excuse to get to work, not to avoid work - yeah, that sounds pretty weird, but that's exactly my stance when it comes to "essay or presentation due tomorrow" scenarios. However, with "I need to catch up on my reading" scenarios, I (at least) default to the "well I can always put it off" strategy and probably wouldn't start the work even if I was banned. However, when you have a bit of panic involved, a rough slap or a rude nudge may be just what you need to get serious. At least with the forum ban, you have a reminder to do your work, and something to look forward to after you've completed it. Negative reinforcement for the block.
And CT, the internet is so a substitute for social interaction, just not a very healthy, fulfilling, or profitable one.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Funny, last time I checked that wasn't the mods job either.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Sad, really.
My sweet, untouched Miranda
And while the seagulls are crying
We fall but our souls are flying
No we don't.
If I agree with you on this then you're wrong, and if I disagree you're right? In either case I would be wrong...
At night, the ice weasels come."
See? You're finally right about something: You'll always be wrong.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Let us settle this once and for all.
1) I am not addected to the internet.
2) I do however have a very short attention span and therefor I can easily be detered from studying, hence I asked for a temp ban so I could study for a test I though I would do poorly on if I didn't study.
3) I'm an asshole, but angry will always be king ass
4) any addiction people might think they have to the internet is mental and can therefore be turned off if people only actually thoguht about it.
5) lock this bloody thread as it has simple because another psychological discussion
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
SYKE.