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Superman: Man of Tomorrow! (and his dog)

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Everybody should be reading Scalped.

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    BigDes wrote: »
    Going to the comic book store tomorrow and thinking about about picking up a Superman trade since the only ones I have of his are Red Son, Kingdom Come, Hunter/Prey and for some strange reason True Brit and RUin Revealed.

    Is Birthright the trade where Superman does the whole shoot you in the face at point blank range and catch the bullet before it hits you trick? Cause I really want that particular book.

    Yep!

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    yeah, I dug the first trade of scalped. The downside about comics is that in the U.S, superheroes have been such a dominant force in them that its a difficult shadow for a non-hero comic to step out from under.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Geoff Johns even managed to make Supergirl likeable this week

    is there anything this Brainiac arc can't do?

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You know, I'm actually going to be a little bit sad if Superman finds the real Kandor, or solves the mystery of Kandor. That's always been the great mystery. The one thing that has always baffled him. If he finally has the answers, its like an entire portion of the Superman mythos will be gone.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    You know, I'm actually going to be a little bit sad if Superman finds the real Kandor, or solves the mystery of Kandor. That's always been the great mystery. The one thing that has always baffled him. If he finally has the answers, its like an entire portion of the Superman mythos will be gone.
    Apparently he does solve it, and there'll be a few thousand Kryptonians running around in the near future.

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  • FiggisFiggis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Algertman wrote: »
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

    Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Figgis wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

    Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?

    Superman: Red Son did this, and Millar made it sound like Grant was the first to think of it.

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  • TeaSpoonTeaSpoon Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Figgis wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

    Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?

    I don't know if Alan Moore had the idea, but Mark Millar certainly did by way of Red Son.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The way I always thought of it, at least in its original context, is that space and science fiction and advanced alien technology are all a part of the future, and therefore "tomorrow." Superman is the Man of Tomorrow because he's part of something far more advanced than modern earth.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    TeaSpoon wrote: »
    Figgis wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

    Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?

    I don't know if Alan Moore had the idea, but Mark Millar certainly did by way of Red Son.

    An ending that was originally Grant Morrison's idea.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    TeaSpoon wrote: »
    Figgis wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

    Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?

    I don't know if Alan Moore had the idea, but Mark Millar certainly did by way of Red Son.

    An ending that was originally Grant Morrison's idea.

    I might add that's one of my all time favorite endings to a comic book. It's just so full of awesome. The whole narration is excelent.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I always really like the ending to Superman: Birthright. Corny as all hell, but I imagine it would look awesome as one long camera shot set to the Superman theme march.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So what's the general consensus on the Man of Steel origin v Birthright?

    I haven't read either (although I read some of the Byrne run along with most of the Death/Return of Superman arc as a kid), but I've read summaries and the father conflict in Birthright really jives with my concept of the character. I'm starting a collection of DC trades and although I'm planning on getting Man of Steel at the moment, I could still be swayed.

    Neither is direct canon at this point, correct? Is there a new origin coming?

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2008
    Birthright is an excellent story

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    agreed.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Keith wrote: »
    Birthright is an excellent story

    Out of curiosity, have you read the Man of Steel origin at all?

    Does the Birthright story hammer on the melodrama a ton to appeal to a smallville audience?

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2008
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    Birthright is an excellent story

    Out of curiosity, have you read the Man of Steel origin at all?

    Does the Birthright story hammer on the melodrama a ton to appeal to a smallville audience?

    I haven't read Man of Steel, but I've read Birthright and it's an excellent story that's worth reading

    And no

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It really doesn't matter much anymore which origin story is "canon." Unless it's written by Geoff Johns, nothing in these retold origin stories significantly affects the current continuity stories.

    I'm not saying that's a bad thing. If it's a good story (Birthright) then it deserves to be told even if things in it are never really mentioned or don't jive with modern stories (Rainbow life vision).

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  • Fatboy RobertsFatboy Roberts Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Birthright should really be the new Superman movie that Warner's is rebooting.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    wait just how much is Geoff Johns retconning with Brainiac?

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    completley redoing him

    which frankly is a good thing in my opinion, the comics version of Brainiac is awful

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yeah but now he's just kinda galactus

    at least so far

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    what

    that is a terrible comparison

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    hmm double post

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    He is an ancient giant space robot who goes around terrifiying/destroying planets and now he's coming to earth

    as a plot device he is pretty similar

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    his motivation and methods are completley different though.

    I mean yes he's a Galactus level threat, but so are plenty of other villains.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    also he's not a giant

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    his methods are not really differen't at all

    as far as his motivations, I'm not talking about that

    I'm just saying for the sake of the story thus far

    he is pretty much like galactus

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm sorry I didnt realize Galactus kept cities from every planet he eats

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I was more talking about the sending out a robot to find worlds that her could do his thing to

    and besides i'm not comparing specific details

    look all i'm saying is that I thought of galactus multiple times throughout the story

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It's appears to me as if Johns is using the Superman:Animated template for Brainiac, and cramming all of the past versions into that, ala his Hawkman fix.

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, the first thing I thought was, "Oh, so he's making him just like the animated version."

    Which is cool, since the DCAU version was awesome. Also, I like how things from those cartoons keep making their way into the comics.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, Braniac was second only to Darkseid as far as the best things about the Superman series was concerned.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    TeaSpoon wrote: »
    Figgis wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

    Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?

    I don't know if Alan Moore had the idea, but Mark Millar certainly did by way of Red Son.

    Bazzam.

    Apparently Jerry Siegel's original origin idea was for superman to be the last child before earth's destruction, literally a super-powered boy of tomorrow, and sent back in time to the current era.

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    hey, so all star number 12 is coming out in a couple of weeks. that's gonna be excellent.


    i just re-read them all and i think i know kind of where it's going. speculation!
    dr quintum is wrong and it only looks like superman is dying. instead, he's begun evolving into the fantastic golden superman, the one who is presented as the "leader of the superman squad" in the flashback issue where pa kent dies. re-reading golden superman's conversation with regular superman, it's so clear that it's old superman talking to young superman. so basically i think lex is going to get beat up

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Servo wrote: »
    hey, so all star number 12 is coming out in a couple of weeks. that's gonna be excellent.


    i just re-read them all and i think i know kind of where it's going. speculation!
    dr quintum is wrong and it only looks like superman is dying. instead, he's begun evolving into the fantastic golden superman, the one who is presented as the "leader of the superman squad" in the flashback issue where pa kent dies. re-reading golden superman's conversation with regular superman, it's so clear that it's old superman talking to young superman. so basically i think lex is going to get beat up
    Well, wasn't Golden Superman basically the Prime Superman (ie Kal-El from the year 53 thousand and something) from DC One Million anyway?

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    TeaSpoon wrote: »
    Figgis wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    I never really understood the "Man of Tomorrow" thing

    The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.

    Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?

    I don't know if Alan Moore had the idea, but Mark Millar certainly did by way of Red Son.

    Bazzam.

    Apparently Jerry Siegel's original origin idea was for superman to be the last child before earth's destruction, literally a super-powered boy of tomorrow, and sent back in time to the current era.

    Supes would be so much more interesting if that were the case.

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Servo wrote: »
    hey, so all star number 12 is coming out in a couple of weeks. that's gonna be excellent.


    i just re-read them all and i think i know kind of where it's going. speculation!
    dr quintum is wrong and it only looks like superman is dying. instead, he's begun evolving into the fantastic golden superman, the one who is presented as the "leader of the superman squad" in the flashback issue where pa kent dies. re-reading golden superman's conversation with regular superman, it's so clear that it's old superman talking to young superman. so basically i think lex is going to get beat up
    Well, wasn't Golden Superman basically the Prime Superman (ie Kal-El from the year 53 thousand and something) from DC One Million anyway?

    that's the other reason i think it!

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